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Old 01-17-2005, 08:01 AM
john john is offline
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Default Re: Why don`t the extraterrestrials help us?


You are absolutely not disrespectful Truebeliever. I know that I know nothing concretely, at least much less than I would to know. But I have more and more the feeling that the whole tricky game of the NWO will end in some way at the Chinese wall.

I still hope that Bush will retake the FED from the banksters owning the Western corporations but he probably will not change anything to the corporations based Western economy. And that means sooner or later a big conflict between the Western and the Chinese/Indian/Russian corporations...

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Old 01-17-2005, 09:44 AM
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I guess the extraterrestrials don't help us because they're here only to help the 33+ masons,
which I didn't even know existed. I thought 33 was the highest you could go. Apparently not, according to this article.

http://www.beyondweird.com/ufos/Branton_The_Omega_File_Part_32_War_of_The_Caverns. html

Here is an excerpt..

So the 33+ degrees of Masonry are the alien-interactive levels, and 'we' are meant to believe that there are ONLY 33 degrees and no more. The Scottish Rite's infiltration of the Masonic lodges challenged the domination of the more Judeo-Christian YORK Rite. The Scottish Rite can be traced back to the Jesuit college of Clermont in France, and at the core it advocates a global government and the destruction of all national boundaries, sovereignties and cultures; the dissolution of all traditional "family" structures making all children the wards of the world state; and the destruction of the idea
that man has a soul -- or rather that humans are merely evolved animals having no spiritual nature and therefore no need for God. In other words a homogenized collective society which does not tolerate individual expression but instead enforces absolute conformity to the controlling establishment, kind of like the system which the Greys themselves live under.

IF THEY EXIST. I have seen the space craft, I have NEVER seen an alien and I still think that the GREYS are actually the GRE's(the global ruling elite).
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Old 01-17-2005, 11:59 AM
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well i'm going waayyyy out on a limb here , but i have a theory about aliens .

in the bible,when sodom and gommorah were destroyed, abraham had visitors ,which were described as angels. the sodomites wanted to have sex with them and lot ,abrahams nephew, took them into his house for the night . well ,when they were with abraham, he had some food prepared for them and they ate it . the point ? it's that these were angels,but they could take on a physical form . there are theories about the giants in the days before the flood and somewhat after( goliath,who was 6 cubits tall or 9 feet) being the resultant offspring of the fallen angels mating with human women .the point i'm making is that ,according to the bible,these evil spirits can also manifest themselves in physical form ,thus , the aliens .

with all the tv , films and books today featuring the paranormal , this shouldn't be that far to reach .

i think aliens are real, but not from another world ,at least not a physical world. i think they are part of the plan . and by the plan,i mean satan's plan,because all the people we keep talking about,the illuminated ones,the rulers of this world, are , knowingly or not,the agents of the devil .

how about that for a conspiracy theory ?
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Old 01-17-2005, 05:50 PM
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Yo Billiard...

Now THATS a conspiricy theory!

Club Conspiricy...thats what it's all about!

I have David Icke on the line Bill...

"yes David...you want this site to stop stealing all your theories...no David I will not do that...no David goats are my limit!"...hang up.
:-D :-D :-D 8-) 8-)

Only joking.
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Old 01-17-2005, 05:54 PM
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Quote:
john wrote:
I still hope that Bush will retake the FED from the banksters owning the Western corporations but he probably will not change anything to the corporations based Western economy. And that means sooner or later a big conflict between the Western and the Chinese/Indian/Russian corporations...
Indeed I will admit there is enough anecdotal evidence to support the rift.

I will respect the thread and move it over to...

"Focussing In...War With China & Other Distractions"

In the NWO Effects section.

You know my view and obviously yours is required if thats all right.
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Old 01-17-2005, 08:15 PM
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TB - who,praytell,is david icke? i'm sure the joke was funny,i just never heard of him .


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Old 01-17-2005, 08:28 PM
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My Lord man! Where have you been!

David Icke.

Lizard man shape shifter mixed in with the good stuff.

First place the media goes when looking to discredit 'Conspiricy Theories'.

I dont believe he's a plant. I just think he has his views.

It just irks me when someone mentions him when there are so many excellent sites dedicated to this stuff.

He's also a little TOO NWO for me as he bags Christianity incessently and to my mind (i dont use this word too often) is downright blasphemous!

He has no respect for others views but expects us to believe the Illuminati is populated by shape shifting lizards!

He's arrogant and incredibly opinionated and cant stand it when he's challenged.

We all suffer from that from time to time. If he does'nt want to be challenged he should keep his opinions to himself.

I steer clear. I'd read Vialls ten times over before i'd bless his site with my eyes.

Oh well my goat joke was lost!

Not very funny anyway.
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Old 01-18-2005, 08:46 AM
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Good description of Icke, truebeliever. I couldn't have said it better myself. But since this is an important topic, I am going to risk being redundandt and reiterate my own objections/reservatoins re Icke:

1) He is non-spiritual, and eschews Christianity especially, as you say. This seems incongruous to me, since many of us who have gone down this path of conspiracy research mirror DaddyLongLegs' sentiment that it has made us more religious. Even though Icke exposes freemasonry and the Illuminati as part of the overall scheme, his thinly-veiled contempt for Christianity smacks oddly of their tactics. I am not quite so certain that Icke is not a disinformation specialist.

2) His radical, sensationalist theories about UFOs, space aliens, and especially the reptilian shapechangers do just as you say, truebeliever; this kind of radical, unsubstantiated lore throws a bucket of cold water on the whole conspiracy research world.

3) Other more credible characters within the conspiracy world, like several of the ex-Illuminati sex slaves profiled by Dr. Henry in a recent article, have stated their own doubts and reservations about Icke after meeting him in person.

This is not to say that there isn't a lot of good, credible information available on Icke's website. I have learned that when researching these topics, one must learn practice eclective discernment, picking and choosing from many different sources in order to construct a composite model or hypothesis that connects the greatest number of dots.
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Old 01-19-2005, 06:43 PM
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Default Re: Why don`t the extraterrestrials help us?

Billard- how about this for a perspective: fallen angel = alien /// breeding = 13 bloodlines.


Here's my two freedom credits (I'm boycotting "cents" LOL!) on David Icke. It seems he is on the leading edge of conspiracy work- he certainly seems "out there" to most so he can be good to use to discredit other work. I saw the six hour video he did that someone here posted-- good stuff and I thought his message was right on: truth and love. I don't think he's got a real agenda against Christians (and I am one), he just presents the information of his research.

But as much of his work is not verifiable by multiple sources it's a difficult sell for others so I will leave it out when discussing matters. Is his cutting edge views bogus? Who knows- all I do know is that I don't know much so I make no judgments on the information.


BTW- who ever said extraterrestrials weren't helping us?
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Old 01-20-2005, 04:39 PM
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Default Re: Why don`t the extraterrestrials help us?

Because they have their own problems.
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