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Old 01-02-2006, 02:52 PM
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Default Winifred Wagner...(1894-1980)


Born Winifred Williams in 1894 to an English father and German mother. In 1915 she married Siegfried Wagner, twenty years her senior, and son of composer Richard Wagner. She became entranced with Hitler and his Nazi movement in the early 20's. When Siegfried died in 1930, she became a close friend and staunch supporter of Adolf Hitler when she first met him in 1923. It was rumored that a marriage between Adolf and Winifred was in the offing, but nothing came of it. Such an event would have solicited great support from the German people. The Fuhrer himself entertained such thoughts believing that a union of the names Hitler and Wagner would ensure the adulation of the masses for time immemorial. In fact he once proposed marriage to her but on becoming Chancellor in January 1933, he felt there was no need now for him to marry. He felt himself "married" to his adopted country, Deutschland. A frequent visitor to her home, the "Villa Winifred", where her 3 children knew him by the nickname "Wolf", Hitler was often seen with her at various performances during the "Bayreuth Festival", the last time in the late summer of 1940 when they attended a performance of "Gotterdammerung". Winifred Wagner died in Uberlingen on March 5, 1980.



Note: Winifred died unrepentant of her relatioship with Hitler.

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Old 01-02-2006, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: Winifred Wagner...(1894-1980)

Ah, to think back about that fabulous era when women had figures that looked like Coke bottles... of course I'm talking about how feminine beauty was perceived in the fifties. An individual that is an archetype of this representation is Mamie Van Doren, so often compared as a cheap Marilyn Monroe or Jayne Mansfield imitation. But guess what? Mamie is still around, pursuing her 50-year mission as an ageless sex-symbol!

She was born Joan Olander on February 6, 1933 (or is it 1931?) in Rowena, South Dakota. She lived for some years with her grandparents, to the moment when her dad found suitable employment in Sioux City. Young Joan was impressed by the big city, as she was then more accustomed to pass the time on the farm, running around the chickens.

She's alive and dosen't know a thing about Hitler, sorta like you.
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