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Old 08-16-2006, 11:52 AM
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Hello all, I am new here, but I have followed this site with great interest as a lurker before.

Although I think this site is great, I have one great concern in that alot of this posts contain links to other sites where promises of great stories and revelations are to be found.

But I am concerned as such links are capable of inserting software such as keylogers and data vipers into our systems. In fact I have heard from computer experts that by proactively clicking on such links, you negate the ability of your firewall to prevent these trojans from entering your system and transmitting all your information to whoever controls these sites.

I don't mean to accuse any of you of doing such missdeads but I know that you can unwittenly fall prey and get duped by these people.

So I ask the posters to paste what they want us to see to the message instead of placing all of us in danger of falling prey.

Thank you for your time.

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Old 08-16-2006, 12:38 PM
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Without links there is no internet. Your reading way too much into the warnings. It is mostly concerned with links (URLs) inside email messages. It's called phishing. They send out millions of messages disguised as, say, a legit site such as eBay or PayPal. To the newbies out there the email looks like the real thing. In it they'll tell you click on the link to verify your info or something. Hovering over the link usually exposes the deception in the status bar. Instead of https://www.paypal.com/ the link will point to (this is for for effect) http://www.badmantryingtostealyourinfo.com/

It is true that some sites can give you a virus, install a trojan or some sort of spyware; but this is usually due to Active X components installed in IE Explorer. Use a secure browser, such as Firefox, and you mostly eliminate the threat outright.

On top of this, get yourself a good antivirus, keep it up to date and do regular scans. Get yourself a spyware program, and likewise do the same.

With a secure browser, the above tools, and a Firewall (software or hardware) - and unless you continually troll the seedy side of the internet: the real sick porn sites and/or illegal hacking and software sites - you need not worry.

Without links the internet would not be surfable. The very foundation of the Web would be broken. Do not be afraid of clicking links (besides the one's in emails sent to you unsolicited by a major coorporation, i.e. your bank). If you need to go to PayPal, eBay, your bank or something. Type in the URL directly in the address bar by hand.
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Old 08-16-2006, 01:03 PM
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As you said, I could click on a link and be redirected to a site where they can activate one of these trojans.

It is not links in general that I am worried about as I do trust sites like yahoo and google.

It is the links that people I don't know that they put into their messages this links that wories.

I mean, how do we know these people and how can we trust the links that they put into their messages.

After all, the way that they can control you is to act as your friend and draw you in, once they get into your computer and get your information, they own you.

Forget about this chipping malarkey, its when they worm their way into your computer that they get you and control you.


I do not mean to argue with you as I am sure you mean well, but this is the central way to control everybody.
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Old 08-16-2006, 01:07 PM
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Forget about this chipping malarkey,
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lol ... 100 years ago they were saying this ...

get informed my friend, research it yourself.

I will say no more.
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Old 08-16-2006, 01:12 PM
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If your so terrified of links then by all means don't click 'em. If your afraid of getting shot outside, then by all means don't leave your house.

I have given you the solutions earlier: the main one being, dump IE and use Firefox.

Send my first reply to any security guru you wish ... guaranteed they'll agree with my earlier assessment. Perhaps they can even persuade you from your unwarranted fears. Don't take my word for it, consult the experts to see if everything I've told you is correct.
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Old 08-16-2006, 01:12 PM
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no chips 100 years ago, unless sticking a french fry up the anus counted :lol:

Its the links they are using to control us
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Old 08-16-2006, 01:15 PM
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I have given you the solutions earlier: the main one being, dump IE and use Firefox.
And why is Firefox being forced on us all of a sudden. Is it perhaps a more secure means to spy on us with.
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Old 08-16-2006, 01:18 PM
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No Active X my friend, look it up. IE is tied to the operating system at the core level. The Active X is a plugin that gives programmers direct access to the OS. Use IE and your open for attack; use Firefox and at least you've eliminated the most pernicious method for attack: Active X. Type Active X and security at a search engine for further enlightenment.
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Old 08-16-2006, 01:24 PM
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Its not ActiveX thats the problem. Its the use of Push Text technology that they use to insert the dataminers and trojans into the system.

Also I am very warry of strangers that call me friend and tell me nothing is wrong and I should click away. And now even tell me to get a new browser that I know nothing about
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Old 08-16-2006, 01:27 PM
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As long as you are using a computer you are

as good as an open window.

SHADOW they are ALREADY in your computer and

recording EVERYTHING for posterity.

We got you already no need to click on no link.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/437967.stm

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Sci/Tech 1999

Windows 'back door' security alert

Cryptographers mark up code for a new key found in Windows

By Internet Correspondent Chris Nuttall

Cryptographers are sounding the alarm on a major security issue involving Microsoft Windows that could eclipse its Hotmail public relations disaster.


The BBC's Kathy Riddell: "This has set alarms bells ringing"

The findings of a computer security expert that America's National Security Agency (NSA) may have been given a back door into every copy of Windows 95, 98, NT4 and 2000 worldwide are being debated across the Internet.

Microsoft has issued a strong denial of allegations of misuse of a second encryption "key" in Windows.

"These are just used to ensure that we're compliant with US export regulations," said Scott Culp, Microsoft's security manager for its Windows NT Server software.

"We have not shared the private keys. We do not share our keys."

But cryptographers in the UK described the implications of the findings as "immense". Windows is installed on more than 90% of the world's computers.

Second key for Windows

Andrew Fernandes, Chief Scientist at the Ontario-based Cryptonym Corporation, is credited with discovering the identity of a second key used by Windows for encryption purposes.


The BBC's Chris Nuttall: "Windows is used on 90% of the world's computers"

Caspar Bowden, director of London-based Internet think-tank FIPR, said: "The allegation is that every copy of Windows contains an extra 'magic number' which would permit it to work with encryption modules designed by the US National Security Agency, as well as those approved by Microsoft."

The approval mechanism was introduced to ensure that the weak encryption in non-US versions of Windows could not be replaced with stronger software without it being checked against a "key" embedded in Windows, proving that it had been digitally signed off by Microsoft.

Two years ago, cryptographers found an alternative, and apparently superfluous, second embedded key. The new details came to light through debugging information erroneously left in the latest service pack for Windows NT.

Significantly, the key has the data tag "_NSAKEY" giving rise to speculation that the NSA persuaded Microsoft to give it special access to Windows in a secret deal.

Microsoft says it called its function an "NSA key" because the body reviews technical details for the export of data-scrambling software.

MS talked with NSA

It is known that Microsoft negotiated with the NSA on including encryption in its product. The export of strong encryption is banned by the Clinton administration, which fears terrorists and other criminals could turn it against the US.

There are two theories on why this unnecessary second key is included in Windows:

Conspiracy theorists say the key can be used to infiltrate targeted computers. It gives the NSA a direct way of doing this without having to use Microsoft's own key.

A more charitable theory is that Microsoft allowed the NSA a special key to secure the thousands of government computers running Windows.

"The innocent explanation is that the US wished to create bespoke encryption modules for official use on government systems without reference to Microsoft," said Mr Bowden.

"Ironically, introducing the second key has created a major security loophole in a mechanism which was designed to enforce US export controls on strong cryptography."

Microsoft suffered serious embarrassment on Monday when hackers exposed a simple way of breaking into the mailboxes of more than 40 million users of its Hotmail e-mail service.
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