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Old 08-18-2006, 04:33 PM
O_VAUGHAN O_VAUGHAN is offline
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The following is a very SHORT list of sadistic acts that are commanded, allowed, or threatened by God and his “righteous” men. All of these verses can be found in the Torah. (which are the first five books of the Bible.) I have put them in chronological order so that you may verify them as you read along. (Keep in mind that the scriptures literally have an atrocity on every other page. So this list will keep evolving as I work through the Pentateuch yet again. To compile a full list may take months, so feel free to check back in later.) God entraps humans by placing the tree of knowledge in the garden and telling Adam and Eve not to eat of it. This is rather similar to placing a toy in front of a child and telling them they are not allowed to play with it. God created us with instinct, rebellion, and curiosity. Soon he punishes us for only doing what is part of our nature. Genesis 2:16.47

God now commands that all women must have health hazardous labors for Eve ate the fruit. In no way shape or form is it just that I must pay for the sins of my ancestors. Genesis 3:16

God caused sibling rivalry by favoring Abel over Cain, with absolutely no attempt at justification. This act of favoritism led to Abel’s death. Genesis 4:3-5

Genesis 7:23 He killed, intentionally, every man, woman, and child on the planet save eight of them.

God commands Hagar go back into servanthood and bear children for her master though she does not want to. Genesis 16:7-9

Genesis 19:23-25 God burns down a whole city (women and children included) simply because they were supposedly homosexual.

Er, Judah’s firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the Lord; and that the Lord slew him. How was Er wicked? The Bible doesn’t give us this bit of information, only that Er was wicked in the sight of the Lord. Genesis 38:7

Genesis 38:10 God murders Onan for refusing to commit incest with his sister in law.

Exodus 12:29 God repeatedly tells Moses exactly what calamity he will next visit upon the Egyptians if the Pharaoh does not allow the Israelites to be set free from slavery. Then he tells Moses (also repeatedly) that he will harden Pharaoh’s heart, so that he will refuse to allow the Israelites to go, thus bringing a calamity upon his own people, as well as showing him the awesome power of the Israelites’ Lord. This occurs over and over, bringing calamity upon calamity upon the Egyptian people. What is troubling about this verse is that when god “hardens the pharaoh’s heart” he is interfering with the Pharaoh’s free will and ultimately bringing punishment on the Egyptians for something they are not responsible for. As a final punishment god decides to kill all the first born of Egypt. The lord reduced himself to murdering innocent kids when he could have simply freed the Israelites himself with his “omnipotent” power.

God punishes children for the sins of their fathers, unto the third and fourth generations. Punishing a child for the sins of their ancestors is not very just. Exodus 20:5&34:7

God endorses slavery. He even set up laws as to how slavery was to be carried out, and goes as far as Okaying beating them. Exodus 21:2-6

God sanctioned the selling of ones daughter. How can any being tell another to literally sell their child into slavery? Disgusting! Exodus 21:7

Exodus 22:18 God orders the death of witches, sorceresses and anyone who practices magic. Sadly enough, this verse was justification for the Inquisition.

Exodus 32:27 God ordered to be killed, 3,000 Israelites for no greater crime than worshipping a golden calf. I don’t know about you but death is a pretty harsh fucking punishment.

Leviticus 20:9-10 God commands death for cursing out ones parents and death for adultery. Gee, with these types of laws the population should be almost nil by now.

Once again god is a homophobe, or at the very least, a bigot. Leviticus 20:13

Handicapped people must not approach the altar. Leviticus 21:16-23

Leviticus 26:30 “And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shill ye eat.”

Leviticus 27:28-29 God ordered and allowed human sacrifices.

Numbers 16:27 God buries alive Korah and his family.

Numbers 16:35 God killed 250 Levite princes who disagreed with Moses’ leadership. He was so bloodthirsty that he wanted to slay more until he was talked out of it. Later he put a plague upon 14,700 Jews who thought there was something wrong in killing 250 princes.

Numbers 21:1-3 God utterly destroyed the Canaanites at Hormah as a favor to the Jews.

Numbers 21:27-35 God abetted Moses in utterly destroying the Amorites at Heshbon - “…the men, the women, and the little ones.”

Numbers 31:17-18 God commands Moses to kill all the Medianite people including children and women. To top it off he commands that the virgins be saved for later raping by Moses’ soldiers.

Deuteronomy 3:3-7 God ordered Moses’ army to “utterly destroy” 60 cities, killing all the women and children within!

Deuteronomy 7:12 God ordered the Israelites to kill all the people of seven nations. He even adds, “show no mercy unto them”.

Deuteronomy 20:16 God orders that we kill everything that breathes in the cities that he gives us for an inheritance

A bastard can’t attend church “even to his tenth generation.” As if denying an innocent child rights to worship isn’t cruel. Deuteronomy 23:2

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Old 08-18-2006, 04:41 PM
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nobody's perfect.

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Old 08-18-2006, 05:03 PM
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Are you saying God is evil?
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Old 08-18-2006, 05:12 PM
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Are you saying God is evil?

All I'm saying is that at least this

God is honest when he says he's a jealous God.

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Old 08-18-2006, 05:31 PM
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O_VAUGHAN

Reading your post reminds me of something I would see in the editorial section of a communist run newspaper. On the surface it seems to the writer as being intellectual, but looking through a distorted lense gives a disorted image.
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Old 08-18-2006, 08:16 PM
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Are you saying God is evil?
EXCUSE ME. Read the fucking title of the thread and then read the fucking threadstarter. I didn't write the stuff from the Torah. I am saying that there is a lot of evil stuff mentioned in the Torah.

Stranger, read the threadstarter. I'm not trying to come across as intellectual. I didn't write it. Do you not think those sections are evil? You wanna see some Old Testament stuff about rape and murder?

If you guys don't think this is evil stuff or if you think I took it out of context, post your stuff. Don't shoot the fucking messenger. Sheesh
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Old 08-18-2006, 09:42 PM
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In the Book of Job, Satan must receive permission from GOD for all he inflicts upon Job. You see the GOD of the Bible is well prepared for the human race. It is your churches and your doctrines and your make believe that paints the false picture of GOD. If you or any of you want to challenge the GOD of the Bible, then do so. You would be well advised to understand that you have in the Bible a clear picture of the only GOD there is and have had so for thousands of years. Why then be surprised and indignant when GOD shows that GOD is exactly as described. GOD said that GOD hated Esau while even in the womb. So the GOD of the Bible can and does have the ability to hate humans.
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Old 08-18-2006, 09:43 PM
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I didn't write it.
Then who wrote your editorials after you quote some verses (deceptively out of context by the way). Are you quoting someone else?

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Don't shoot the fucking messenger
There is an attempt to make a bold personal interpretation of what the scripture says, then try to hide behind "just a messenger" garbage? Don’t think so, wont work here. You have right to make whatever statement you like, but at least take the response like a man. Again I may be mistaken, are you quoting someone else or another article?

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Once again god is a homophobe, or at the very least, a bigot. Leviticus 20:13
this is just one of many quotes you listed. Where do I start? Homosexuality is clinically and medically an extreme health hazard. Worse the smoking, obesity, etc..... There were not many medical journals back in the day warning of the dangers of this behavior. sounds like your god is a politically correct fantasy. Honestly, your a philosophical communist aren't you? Not trying to make a cut down, honest question. Have friends that think the same way you do, and they admit they are communist philosophically.
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Old 08-18-2006, 10:02 PM
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I shall make this plain. If any of you wish to confront the GOD OF THE BIBLE with your complaints and questions of GOD's wisdom then go directly to GOD. Use the same techniques that were used by others in the Bible and learn once and for all in whose universe you live. You will get an individual reply that will enlighten you as to whose property you are. If you need a lie for an answer then ask your priest, Rabbi, or what ever form of false intermediary you use. The time is coming when you will not even have to ask for GOD's opinion of this age it will be blazing before your eyes, deafening your ears and shriveling your tongue. Continue to play with GOD, it will make my day.
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Old 08-18-2006, 10:06 PM
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Headvoid wrote:
Are you saying God is evil?
EXCUSE ME. Read the fucking title of the thread and then read the fucking threadstarter. I didn't write the stuff from the Torah. I am saying that there is a lot of evil stuff mentioned in the Torah.

Stranger, read the threadstarter. I'm not trying to come across as intellectual. I didn't write it. Do you not think those sections are evil? You wanna see some Old Testament stuff about rape and murder?

If you guys don't think this is evil stuff or if you think I took it out of context, post your stuff. Don't shoot the fucking messenger. Sheesh

O_VAUGHAN ... you brought up a very important

point that has puzzled me too and I don't know

what the answer is ... maybe that's why mankind

is evil too because we were created in God's

image ?
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