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Old 03-02-2005, 02:16 PM
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Default The Net Cultivates Misdirection & Passivity and Ultimately Obssession With Trivia


The following post is too important to me to let pass as "just" an answer to another post so I'll start a new topic for all newcomers to the site so that you know where to look for hopefully another direction of thinking besides the usual, by now almost mainstream(!) conspiracy discussions. This forum runs the risk of becoming just that; an institution of "alternative" thinking, and as all institutions gravitates slowly but surely towards stagnation and information overload.

There are so many sites like this one, where people honestly try to collect valuable knowledge but to me it doesn't seem to me to really lead anywhere.

Please, don't take offence. I have myself written quite a bit on this forum so I'm just as culpable as anyone on here. I just haven't seen any changes in anyone but myself, which really was the point of my exercise in the first place.

So the following is then something I posted elswhere. I apologize for any inconvenience.

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"One of the first things I said on this forum was that in essence people were spending too much time in front of their computer screens and not enough time appreciating the beautiful things in this life.

In the end we're not better than people spending weeks discussing the latest development on American Survivor/Pop Stars/Temptation Island only we discuss the latest coverup, bribe/murder/mind control/conspiracy scandal.

I have not written anything substantial for a while because frankly I'm not sure if it leads in the "right" direction. That, btw, would be towards everyone's individual and wholehearted effort towards spiritual freedom.

Personally, I'm quite fed up with all and every discussion about the latest conspiracy, simply because we can go on discussing it endlessly without it leading us anywhere. In the best of scenarios we're treading water. That's actually what I think the Internet is really for: distraction and misdirection. Sure, a lot of information is published by a lot of worthy and honest people with good intentions but what ACTUALLY happens is that information is getting lost in the violent flood of information, getting mixed with disinfo, misinfo, lies, truths - that's the worst thing: truths are getting flushed down the toilet and forgotten because it's mixed with a lot of crap. I see people on this site discaring valuable truths every day.

We're exposed to so much "information" we get dizzy and finally can't see the difference between truth and falsehood.

In the end I haven't actually seen ANY changes for the better since I joined this forum. I don't mean that there should've been a difference just because you, I - we - discuss important things here. I mean that I actually can't see any changes for the better happening in the future either, just because we're discussing thing here.

It's been said before that the only way to change anything to the better is to lead by example. Sitting in front of a computer and knowing where and how to find great sites with valuable information about the NWO conspiracy is NOT leading by example. The only thing we teach the younger generation is to be passive. They really don't need US teaching them THAT; the State is laughing at us, we're playing straight into their hands helping them underline their subversion of tomorrows' generation.

If we're so well informed and are so on the money, knowing what we claim to know then we really need to take appropriate ACTION to back up all our proud, defiant, self assured words. If we talk the talk, we should walk the walk. We don't walk the walk by sitting in front of our computers screaming "conspiracy!"

This site is getting very big and increasingly difficult to navigate. There's a lot of regulars, a lot of newcomers a few subversives and agent provocateurs and saboteurs...

I recommend all relative newcomers to read the posts of Vlad, Ahmad and myself, if you like what I've written in this post, along with Institute, Protocol, john, crowneagle and 55132 all of whom I think have valuable and interesting things to say and a very comprehensive understanding of NWO global affairs. Apart from these people I would like to warmly recommend marypopinz, freeman and truebeliever simply because they are the VIPs of this site and for a reason: they have their Hearts in the right place."

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Old 03-02-2005, 03:30 PM
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Why would you want to change other people?

If you have noticed a change in yourself, is that not enough?

Sorry for the repost and I feel it is my same response to same question by other poster.

"First, I'm no VIP.

Second, I think Rushdoony's posts are a most fascinating read. He has my vote.

Some of us come here to learn and understand better what we have experienced. Some folks here already think they have it already figured so... Some folks think this is a waste of space and time. That is their perogative. Each to their own.

Back to original question.

The schooling system is a big problem for me as I have three children. The racist police are a big problem as I have three children. A lot of this crap that is NWO directly effects us little folks on a community level.

If I hadn't come here, I'd still believe the fossil fuel theory. Capiche? This site is a huge reference library of info and people's experiences, for myself, so whoever wants to knock it, can. I think this is a valuable place to spend some time and learn about whatever.

Sure it can become a distraction and a diversion. This forum can also be quite entertaining.

Better CC than the goggle box, though!
My two cents."
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Old 03-02-2005, 04:13 PM
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Everyone wants to change other people initially. It's vanity, thinking you know the answer. Then you realise it's impossible. I thought you've read what I've written before, and Vlad but I suppose you think we are pompous know-it-alls. Maybe.

Yes, it is enough.

Therefore this is going to be one of my last posts.

Al the best to you and everyone else.

God Bless!
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Old 03-02-2005, 07:34 PM
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Draken: your contributions have been welcome. And in the time you devoted to it, that is not lost to those reading this site, even if you feel it has not produced an effect you wanted.

Yes the site could 'work' better, I had a post suggesting more headings for example. I am not going to slog through every general post with a vague title.

your quote: "I see people on this site discarding valuable truths every day." Sure, but that's our choice, and our abilities, and where we are in our search etc. We can't all be in the same place at the same time. I'm guessing for many of us, visiting here is a temporary obsession.

I'm not so sure the 'net is inherrantly a waste of time any more than reading a book is. It's what you choose to read etc. Some of us need to learn, some of us need to rant or argue, or preach. Good luck to you and visit when you've got something people might be interested in (whoever is hear to see it)
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