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Old 09-26-2007, 05:25 PM
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Study fails to link chemical, brain woes By ALICIA CHANG, AP Science Writer
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LOS ANGELES - A mercury-based preservative once used in many vaccines does not raise the risk of neurological problems in children, concludes a large federal study that researchers say should reassure parents about the safety of shots their kids received a decade or more ago.

However, the study did not examine autism — the developmental disorder that some critics blame on vaccines. A separate study due out in a year will look at that issue, said scientists at the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, who led the latest analysis and published results in Thursday's New England Journal of Medicine.

They found no clear link between early exposure to the preservative thimerosal and problems with brain function and behavior in children age 7 to 10. The results are in line with past research that found no connection between vaccines and neurological problems or autism.

Thimerosal (pronounced thih-MEHR'-uh-sawl) has not been used in childhood vaccines since 2001, although it is still in some flu shots. The new findings apply to children immunized before then, or exposed to the preservative through shots their mothers received while pregnant. Thimerosal was put in vaccines to prevent contamination from bacteria.

Some doctors say the CDC study should reassure parents worried about the safety of vaccines.

"It's good news for families," said Dr. Michael Goldstein, vice president of the American Academy of Neurology who works in private practice in Salt Lake City. "There's no evidence that these vaccines have caused injury."

The study involved 1,047 children who were exposed to varying levels of thimerosal while in the womb or after birth in the 1990s. The children belonged to four health maintenance organizations that are part of a federal project to study the side effects of vaccines. Their mercury exposure was determined through medical and immunization records and interviews with parents.

Each child was tested for speech and language skills, motor coordination and intelligence. Parents, teachers and trained specialists also rated stuttering, attention span and tic disorders such as head shaking, eye blinking and neck jerking. A total of 42 neurological problems were analyzed.

On balance, researchers did not find a consistent pattern between increasing thimerosal exposure and the risk of these problems. However, they said one finding merited further study: Boys exposed to higher mercury levels seemed to have more tic problems — a link seen in previous research.

"The doses of mercury that children were exposed to because of immunization doesn't cause neuropsychological damage," said Dr. Bruce H. Cohen, a Cleveland Clinic pediatric neurology specialist who had no role in the study.

The CDC study was reviewed by an independent panel of scientists and statisticians who oversaw its design, reviewed results and contributed to writing the report.

The panel included one vaccine opponent — Sallie Bernard, executive director of the consumer group SafeMinds. Although she had a role in planning the study, she asked to be listed as a "dissenting member" because she disagreed with the study's conclusions.

The research was led by William Thompson, a CDC epidemiologist who once worked for vaccine maker Merck & Co. Four other researchers have received fees from drug companies and one has served as a consultant to a CDC committee on immunization.

The study was not designed to tease out the effects of mercury exposure on autism. Thompson is completing a separate study examining whether thimerosal exposure before or after birth causes autism. The study recruited 1,000 children including 250 with autism. Results are expected next year.

Autism is a major public health concern, with one in 150 American children diagnosed with the disorder characterized by repetitive behaviors and impaired social interaction.

Although past scientific studies have found no link between autism and thimerosal-containing vaccines, the highly charged issue went on trial this summer.

A court in Washington, D.C., heard from an Arizona mother who blamed vaccines on her 12-year-old daughter's severe autism. The case is being followed by about 5,000 families who filed similar claims to receive compensation from a federal vaccine injury fund. The fund so far has not paid out an autism claim.

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First it was ADD, then ADHD.

Now one in every 150 children will be diagnosed with AUTISM.

As they said:

Inability to concentrate. (ADD, ADHD)

As they said:

These children will be prisoners inside their own mind.

Trapped inside their own heads.

Prisoners of their own world.

Practically, deaf, dumb and blind.

Non-productive members of society.

As far as ADD and ADHD is concerned, I believe the classroom setting causes irritability together with long periods in between lunch. Sit in your seat; don't move. Constant repetition of material to be memorized. JUST BOREDOM that stifles the brain's ability to develop into a critical/creative/cognitive mass.

If a student is deemed to be more animated than other children, most times teacher's suggest the student might have ADD.

A trip to the doctor and they are given SPEED.

The drugging of our children to stifle creative, critical and cognitive functionings of their brain power.

In order to slow the brain down, they are prescribed SPEED.

If a child is depressed, which is, most times a normal part of adolescence, anti-depressants are prescribed.

Anti-depressants that can cause suicide.

What is it that all children are mandated to receive?

VACCINATIONS that contain MERCURY!!!

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Old 12-17-2009, 09:59 AM
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I have Aspergers Syndrome, a form of Autism and do seriously think that there is a conspiracy among the Autism issue. No, I won't be stating the facts because they are either unproven or not yet found.
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Old 12-19-2009, 12:32 PM
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Study fails to link chemical, brain woes By ALICIA CHANG, AP Science Writer
2 hours, 6 minutes ago

LOS ANGELES - A mercury-based preservative once used in many vaccines does not raise the risk of neurological problems in children, concludes a large federal study that researchers say should reassure parents about the safety of shots their kids received a decade or more ago.

However, the study did not examine autism — the developmental disorder that some critics blame on vaccines. A separate study due out in a year will look at that issue, said scientists at the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, who led the latest analysis and published results in Thursday's New England Journal of Medicine.

They found no clear link between early exposure to the preservative thimerosal and problems with brain function and behavior in children age 7 to 10. The results are in line with past research that found no connection between vaccines and neurological problems or autism.

Thimerosal (pronounced thih-MEHR'-uh-sawl) has not been used in childhood vaccines since 2001, although it is still in some flu shots. The new findings apply to children immunized before then, or exposed to the preservative through shots their mothers received while pregnant. Thimerosal was put in vaccines to prevent contamination from bacteria.

Some doctors say the CDC study should reassure parents worried about the safety of vaccines.

"It's good news for families," said Dr. Michael Goldstein, vice president of the American Academy of Neurology who works in private practice in Salt Lake City. "There's no evidence that these vaccines have caused injury."

The study involved 1,047 children who were exposed to varying levels of thimerosal while in the womb or after birth in the 1990s. The children belonged to four health maintenance organizations that are part of a federal project to study the side effects of vaccines. Their mercury exposure was determined through medical and immunization records and interviews with parents.

Each child was tested for speech and language skills, motor coordination and intelligence. Parents, teachers and trained specialists also rated stuttering, attention span and tic disorders such as head shaking, eye blinking and neck jerking. A total of 42 neurological problems were analyzed.

On balance, researchers did not find a consistent pattern between increasing thimerosal exposure and the risk of these problems. However, they said one finding merited further study: Boys exposed to higher mercury levels seemed to have more tic problems — a link seen in previous research.

"The doses of mercury that children were exposed to because of immunization doesn't cause neuropsychological damage," said Dr. Bruce H. Cohen, a Cleveland Clinic pediatric neurology specialist who had no role in the study.

The CDC study was reviewed by an independent panel of scientists and statisticians who oversaw its design, reviewed results and contributed to writing the report.

The panel included one vaccine opponent — Sallie Bernard, executive director of the consumer group SafeMinds. Although she had a role in planning the study, she asked to be listed as a "dissenting member" because she disagreed with the study's conclusions.

The research was led by William Thompson, a CDC epidemiologist who once worked for vaccine maker Merck & Co. Four other researchers have received fees from drug companies and one has served as a consultant to a CDC committee on immunization.

The study was not designed to tease out the effects of mercury exposure on autism. Thompson is completing a separate study examining whether thimerosal exposure before or after birth causes autism. The study recruited 1,000 children including 250 with autism. Results are expected next year.

Autism is a major public health concern, with one in 150 American children diagnosed with the disorder characterized by repetitive behaviors and impaired social interaction.

Although past scientific studies have found no link between autism and thimerosal-containing vaccines, the highly charged issue went on trial this summer.

A court in Washington, D.C., heard from an Arizona mother who blamed vaccines on her 12-year-old daughter's severe autism. The case is being followed by about 5,000 families who filed similar claims to receive compensation from a federal vaccine injury fund. The fund so far has not paid out an autism claim.

-----------------------------------------------

First it was ADD, then ADHD.

Now one in every 150 children will be diagnosed with AUTISM.

As they said:

Inability to concentrate. (ADD, ADHD)

As they said:

These children will be prisoners inside their own mind.

Trapped inside their own heads.

Prisoners of their own world.

Practically, deaf, dumb and blind.

Non-productive members of society.

As far as ADD and ADHD is concerned, I believe the classroom setting causes irritability together with long periods in between lunch. Sit in your seat; don't move. Constant repetition of material to be memorized. JUST BOREDOM that stifles the brain's ability to develop into a critical/creative/cognitive mass.

If a student is deemed to be more animated than other children, most times teacher's suggest the student might have ADD.

A trip to the doctor and they are given SPEED.

The drugging of our children to stifle creative, critical and cognitive functionings of their brain power.

In order to slow the brain down, they are prescribed SPEED.

If a child is depressed, which is, most times a normal part of adolescence, anti-depressants are prescribed.

Anti-depressants that can cause suicide.

What is it that all children are mandated to receive?

VACCINATIONS that contain MERCURY!!!
You are a bit behind the times BA. Thimerisol has been out of childhood vaccines for a decade now, and there has been no drop in Autism rates. What is more, the type of mercury that they did use is easily eliminated from the body. However, thanks to kooks like Jenny McCarthy the companies removed Thimerasol, a preservative with a well documented safety record, and they have had to replace it with an aluminum based preservative with a much shorter track record. Good going anti-vacs nutjobs!
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Old 12-20-2009, 03:19 PM
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Ive heard it mentioned that Autism may be the begining of the next phase in human evolution. Hence the amazing abilitys some autistic people have with memory and maths etc.

How this evolutionary transgression was spearned however could be the result of government attempts to create super humans. Walking bio computers. Or it could be entirely natural but imperfect as of yet.

If you could sacrifice the disire or need to interact with the world and instead channel your mind in to pursuing complex mathmatics or hyper memory abilities. Then would you display the kind of symtoms Autistic people seem to.

As for why this seems to be a prodominately male disorder. It could be that nature recognizes that the male is the superior sex, worthy of an evolutionary leap.

calm down ladies only joking. I couldnt resist.

If anybody else knows a bit more about the evo theory let me know. I think it could be worthy of a thread or two.
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Ive heard it mentioned that Autism may be the begining of the next phase in human evolution. Hence the amazing abilitys some autistic people have with memory and maths etc.

How this evolutionary transgression was spearned however could be the result of government attempts to create super humans. Walking bio computers. Or it could be entirely natural but imperfect as of yet.

If you could sacrifice the disire or need to interact with the world and instead channel your mind in to pursuing complex mathmatics or hyper memory abilities. Then would you display the kind of symtoms Autistic people seem to.

As for why this seems to be a prodominately male disorder. It could be that nature recognizes that the male is the superior sex, worthy of an evolutionary leap.

calm down ladies only joking. I couldnt resist.

If anybody else knows a bit more about the evo theory let me know. I think it could be worthy of a thread or two.
Ah yes, Jenny McCarthy's "Indigo Children" idea. More likely all of that nonsense is just her using Woo to justify her denial that something is actually wrong with her child.
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Ah yes, Jenny McCarthy's "Indigo Children" idea. More likely all of that nonsense is just her using Woo to justify her denial that something is actually wrong with her child.
Im not aware of jenny mcCarthys "Indigo theory" but i will take a look and let you know what i think.
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I've read some reviews on her book online and it seems that if you wanted to discredit the evolution theory she would be the ideal candidate to attack given her backround and lack of scientific substance.

But does this ultimately mean that theres no truth in the theory? Right now its as good a guess as any.
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May 19 (Bloomberg) -- A common variant of a gene may increase autism risk and explain why boys face a fourfold increase of having the developmental disorder compared with girls, scientists reported.
The researchers analyzed the DNA of 1,046 members of families with at least two sons affected by autism. Inside chromosome 17, a hotspot of previous autism studies, these families harbored a variant of a gene called CACNA1G, said Stanley F. Nelson, professor of human genetics at the University of California Los Angeles, in the journal Molecular Psychiatry.
The gene by itself is not the likely a risk factor for autism, Nelson said. The finding could help researchers understand how a change in the gene may work in tandem with other factors to lead to the disorder marked by impaired language, social interactions and rigid behaviors, he said.
“If replicated, this study could be a very compelling addition to the autism field,” said Hakon Hakonarson, associate professor of pediatrics at the University of Pennsylvania and director of the genome center at the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia. Hakonarson, who wasn’t involved in the UCLA study, previously proposed the role of another gene called cadherin 10 in the disease.
Previous studies have found the prevalence of autism spectrum disorders is slightly less than 1 in 100 for boys and about 1 in 400 for girls, Hakonarson said in a telephone interview. These disorders aren’t the product of a single gene defect, but most likely the result of many genes interacting in concert with environmental factors, he added.
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Just how CACNA1G contributes to autism risk isn’t known, UCLA’s Nelson said. Previous research has shown it normally helps to move calcium between cells. The UCLA team said in a statement that the gene variant also appears in the DNA of nearly 40 percent of the population.
“This alternate form of CACNA1G consistently increased the correlation to autism spectrum disorder, suggesting that inheriting the gene may heighten a child’s risk of developing autism,” said Nelson in a statement.
The UCLA team said its next step will be to sequence the gene -- figure out how its component amino acids are arranged -- to identify the exact alteration linked to autism risk.
The study was funded by the National Institute of Mental Health, a unit of the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda Maryland, and Cure Autism Now.

This article would appear to disprove the theory that governments are carrying out gene experiments because according to the scientists above. No one gene causes Autism and its likely the effect of both gene variation and enviromental factors. The genes in mention appear to be more prevalent in boys. So what if these genes are mutating but are still in the procces of doing so, in to the creation of a new D.NA strand. new genes that will ultimately evolve in to a new form of bieng, or an evollutionary leap.

Could it be possible? or could the government be actively effecting these genes through external radiation or internaly via some form of medication?
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By Marilyn Chase


May 19 (Bloomberg) -- A common variant of a gene may increase autism risk and explain why boys face a fourfold increase of having the developmental disorder compared with girls, scientists reported.
The researchers analyzed the DNA of 1,046 members of families with at least two sons affected by autism. Inside chromosome 17, a hotspot of previous autism studies, these families harbored a variant of a gene called CACNA1G, said Stanley F. Nelson, professor of human genetics at the University of California Los Angeles, in the journal Molecular Psychiatry.
The gene by itself is not the likely a risk factor for autism, Nelson said. The finding could help researchers understand how a change in the gene may work in tandem with other factors to lead to the disorder marked by impaired language, social interactions and rigid behaviors, he said.
“If replicated, this study could be a very compelling addition to the autism field,” said Hakon Hakonarson, associate professor of pediatrics at the University of Pennsylvania and director of the genome center at the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia. Hakonarson, who wasn’t involved in the UCLA study, previously proposed the role of another gene called cadherin 10 in the disease.
Previous studies have found the prevalence of autism spectrum disorders is slightly less than 1 in 100 for boys and about 1 in 400 for girls, Hakonarson said in a telephone interview. These disorders aren’t the product of a single gene defect, but most likely the result of many genes interacting in concert with environmental factors, he added.
Normal Function
Just how CACNA1G contributes to autism risk isn’t known, UCLA’s Nelson said. Previous research has shown it normally helps to move calcium between cells. The UCLA team said in a statement that the gene variant also appears in the DNA of nearly 40 percent of the population.
“This alternate form of CACNA1G consistently increased the correlation to autism spectrum disorder, suggesting that inheriting the gene may heighten a child’s risk of developing autism,” said Nelson in a statement.
The UCLA team said its next step will be to sequence the gene -- figure out how its component amino acids are arranged -- to identify the exact alteration linked to autism risk.
The study was funded by the National Institute of Mental Health, a unit of the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda Maryland, and Cure Autism Now.

This article would appear to disprove the theory that governments are carrying out gene experiments because according to the scientists above. No one gene causes Autism and its likely the effect of both gene variation and enviromental factors. The genes in mention appear to be more prevalent in boys. So what if these genes are mutating but are still in the procces of doing so, in to the creation of a new D.NA strand. new genes that will ultimately evolve in to a new form of bieng, or an evollutionary leap.

Could it be possible? or could the government be actively effecting these genes through external radiation or internaly via some form of medication?
Yawn. My daughter is autistic, so you arent telling me anything new. No, its not the government, but yes it is likely genetic.
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Yawn. My daughter is autistic, so you arent telling me anything new. No, its not the government, but yes it is likely genetic.
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