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Old 12-17-2007, 07:38 PM
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My first response would be YES! this site should close because it no longer functions as a conspiracy forum. It has been hi-jacked by 888888888 and ****** to throw wrenches into(the wheel of knowledge) any, and all dissent concerning the JEW NWO, Makow has probably had enough of maintaining this site for "whatever reasons" that is his perogative. But, should this site close, that is the question that awaits for 2008.


What really will happen to this world in 2008, do you think it's possible that the PTB are going to "clamp down" on political and conspiracy forums just as I wrote on this post on a thread created by JIMBO?

Post# 8 on The Trashing The CONSTITUTION Thread..

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Thought Crimes are Just Around The Corner...


Not In a Million Years...



The House passed this Dangerous Bill a few days ago, YOUR NOT GOING TO BELIEVE IT! it says basically that EVERYONE ON CONSPIRACY FORUMS ARE TERRORIST. Not in those exact terms, but, that is what they seek, COMPLETE THOUGHT CONTROL.


http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2007-993


Every one of these Congress people who voted for this crap should be*********** well, I'll leave it to your imagination. Unbelievable. :-o


Read here.

http://www.roguegovernment.com/news.php?id=4682

Here is the thread

http://www.clubconspiracy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6224&forum=25



So what if what I write comes to fruition in 2008, I believe it will because as the elections get near, you will see even more political dissent in the U.S. shut down. This is already evident as Ron Paul set a ALL TIME RECORD FOR FUNRAISING, and not one of the Lamestream JEW media outlets says the truth about it, they say "LONGSHOT" in last place, R. Paul has raised more money than any Republican candidate, but, he is still a last place contender, what a bunch of RUBBISH!


R. Paul in every magor Independent Poll not manipulated by the JEW MEDIA is in first place, but in the ZIO-MEDIA COMPLEX he is dead last..go figure.


So, if he does.nt take IOWA, so freekin what, he does'nt need any DAMM primary, he can still win the Presidency on sheer number of voters, I think, or has that part of voting been manipulated as well? Of course, but, not every state.

If Rudy G is given the Nod against Hillary, which by every single poll were told that those two are the prime candidates (PURE LIES!)then what? wait for another freekin 'terrorist attack.'

Rudy The Zio-Stooge


Teh, as i hear every now and then.

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Old 12-17-2007, 07:51 PM
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Interesting Redrat. I have to read more about this bill in congres.
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Old 12-17-2007, 08:19 PM
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Here is a excerpt from the bill itself, downright scary what is coming around the corner.



Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Thought Crimes are Just Around The Corner...


Not In a Million Years...



The House passed this Dangerous Bill a few days ago, YOUR NOT GOING TO BELIEVE IT! it says basically that EVERYONE ON CONSPIRACY FORUMS ARE TERRORIST. Not in those exact terms, but, that is what they seek, COMPLETE THOUGHT CONTROL.


http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2007-993


Every one of these Congress people who voted for this crap should be*********** well, I'll leave it to your imagination. Unbelievable. :-o


Read here.

http://www.roguegovernment.com/news.php?id=4682
COULD YOU PROVIDE THE EXCERPT ABOUT CONSPIRACY FORUMS?
read the websites I provided, It does'nt specifically mention Conspiracy Forums,but, Where do you suppose Outlaw Thought and speech emanates??

read here.

House Passes Thought Crime Prevention Bill
10-25-2007
www.roguegovernment.com
Lee Rogers



The U.S. House of Representatives recently passed HR 1955 titled the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007. This bill is one of the most blatant attacks against the Constitution yet and actually defines thought crimes as homegrown terrorism. If passed into law, it will also establish a commission and a Center of Excellence to study and defeat so called thought criminals. Unlike previous anti-terror legislation, this bill specifically targets the civilian population of the United States and uses vague language to define homegrown terrorism. Amazingly, 404 of our elected representatives from both the Democrat and Republican parties voted in favor of this bill. There is little doubt that this bill is specifically targeting the growing patriot community that is demanding the restoration of the Constitution.

First let’s take a look at the definitions of violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism as defined in Section 899A of the bill.

The definition of violent radicalization uses vague language to define this term of promoting any belief system that the government considers to be an extremist agenda. Since the bill doesn’t specifically define what an extremist belief system is, it is entirely up to the interpretation of the government. Considering how much the government has done to destroy the Constitution they could even define Ron Paul supporters as promoting an extremist belief system. Literally, the government according to this definition can define whatever they want as an extremist belief system. Essentially they have defined violent radicalization as thought crime. The definition as defined in the bill is shown below.

`(2) VIOLENT RADICALIZATION- The term `violent radicalization' means the process of adopting or promoting an extremist belief system for the purpose of facilitating ideologically based violence to advance political, religious, or social change.

The definition of homegrown terrorism uses equally vague language to further define thought crime. The bill includes the planned use of force or violence as homegrown terrorism which could be interpreted as thinking about using force or violence. Not only that but the definition is so vaguely defined, that petty crimes could even fall into the category of homegrown terrorism. The definition as defined in the bill is shown below.

`(3) HOMEGROWN TERRORISM- The term `homegrown terrorism' means the use, planned use, or threatened use, of force or violence by a group or individual born, raised, or based and operating primarily within the United States or any possession of the United States to intimidate or coerce the United States government, the civilian population of the United States, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.

Section 899B of the bill goes over the findings of Congress as it pertains to homegrown terrorism. Particularly alarming is that the bill mentions the Internet as a main source for terrorist propaganda. The bill even mentions streams in obvious reference to many of the patriot and pro-constitution Internet radio networks that have been formed. It also mentions that homegrown terrorists span all ages and races indicating that the Congress is stating that everyone is a potential terrorist. Even worse is that Congress states in their findings that they should look at draconian police states like Canada, Australia and the United Kingdom as models to defeat homegrown terrorists. Literally, these findings of Congress fall right in line with the growing patriot community.

The biggest joke of all is that this section also says that any measure to prevent violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism should not violate the constitutional rights of citizens. However, the definition of violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism as they are defined in section 899A are themselves unconstitutional. The Constitution does not allow the government to arrest people for thought crimes, so any promises not to violate the constitutional rights of citizens are already broken by their own definitions.


Add the fairness doctrine and you got complete thought control in the U.S.A.
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Old 12-17-2007, 08:36 PM
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Interesting Redrat. I have to read more about this bill in congres.


Peter, you mentioned in the R. Paul thread that "silly Patriots" and there "constitution" non-sense, care to explain that, do you now see how utterly disgraceful those words could be percieved to be?


Do you see that no-matter what people like you or Blue Angel think of the Founders of this nation, the simple fact remains that not all of the signers of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were Freemasons, in fact if you did your homework, you would find that the "CHRISTIANS" who were the magority in Congress at the time gave the freemasons a pretty bad time, in fact many masons were executed for a number of reasons, even the first U.S. Supreme Court had many writings toward the Masons seen as a 'killer of the Republic' a 'conspiratorial network' that if not dealt with would eventually destroy freedom in the young country. Public hangings of masons was common in some areas of the U.S.


Even though some of the founding fathers were masons, the GENERAL PUBLIC at large did'nt like the fact of that, just because the history books say so, does'nt make it so. and then began the Assault on Christianity in America by the Banksters and there henchmen, who introduced Zionism and Israel in to the Biblical Doctrine, which of course is totally no-where in the real plans of GOD, as according to the BIBLE of true Christianity. Then just as planned, the wars, the economic depressions, etc.. this too weaken the Christian Body. get it? and you can follow there timeline all the way to 9-11 and beyond.Just my opinion there.
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Old 12-17-2007, 09:09 PM
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why not, or are you looking forward to the possibility of spending some time in a NWO citizen camp.

we don’t know what is going to happen in the interim, so why not “rather be safe than sorry”

shred the whole thing. there is nothing in here for which it is worth spending any time in a gulag

and I am not taking out of fear, but out of common sense

avoiding an unnecessary situation is being and playing it smart

there are other things and other circumstances that are going to require real courage and the ability to act courageously and in spite of real fear...

save your energy and your courage for that event instead

thanks to ClubConspiracy and other alternative news sites, including “Jeff Rense, Alex Jones, and whatreallyhappened.com” “we” already know what’s going on, and who is NWO and who’s not

yes we are going to need some means of communication, but hopefully there will be open forms of communication still available

but we are certainly going to have to learn how to communicate effectively without getting in the way of any problems or wasting any valuable time with any useless and distracting provocateurs...
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Old 12-17-2007, 09:32 PM
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RedRat said:

Do you see that no-matter what people like you or Blue Angel think of the Founders of this nation, the simple fact remains that not all of the signers of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were Freemasons, in fact if you did your homework, you would find that the "CHRISTIANS" who were the magority in Congress at the time gave the freemasons a pretty bad time, in fact many masons were executed for a number of reasons, even the first U.S. Supreme Court had many writings toward the Masons seen as a 'killer of the Republic' a 'conspiratorial network' that if not dealt with would eventually destroy freedom in the young country. Public hangings of masons was common in some areas of the U.S.

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Who exactly are "people like me?"

Those who disagree with RedRat?
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Old 12-17-2007, 09:42 PM
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RedRat said:

My first response would be YES! this site should close because it no longer functions as a conspiracy forum. It has been hi-jacked by 888888888 and ****** to throw wrenches into(the wheel of knowledge) any, and all dissent concerning the JEW NWO, Makow has probably had enough of maintaining this site for "whatever reasons" that is his perogative. But, should this site close, that is the question that awaits for 2008.

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Huh?

This site has been hijacked by who?

YOU?

You're kidding, right?

You seriously think all dissent against the JEW and NWO is squelched here?

Didn't you start a thread the other night with about 25 lines that blamed the JEWS for everything?

Makow has had enough of maintaining this site?

Huh?

What exactly does he do?

Seems like an easy job to me.
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Old 12-17-2007, 09:43 PM
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Oh, no.

The "Thought Police" are coming!
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Old 12-24-2007, 12:55 PM
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Huh?

This site has been hijacked by who?

YOU?

You're kidding, right?

You seriously think all dissent against the JEW and NWO is squelched here?

Didn't you start a thread the other night with about 25 lines that blamed the JEWS for everything?

Makow has had enough of maintaining this site?

Huh?

What exactly does he do?

Seems like an easy job to me.
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Old 12-24-2007, 05:09 PM
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Yes, this site should close permanently and so should Makow's site.

Nothing but fronts for the NWO.
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