Originally Posted by KennyWally
"" Years ago, I ordered a book from Gunderson and never received it. ""
I believe if you would tell him, he'd make good on it.
Do you think I'm wrong? Do you think ted is a fraud?
Which one was it anyways? Was it about "the finders"?
I forget which book it was, but I did tell him via email on his site. No response.
As far as Ted being a fraud, I don't know.
This is how I look at it and this may not be the right way, but, you have these people such as Icke, Gunderson, Kathy O'Brien, Makow, Jones, etc., an entire slew of them and they are not in danger in the least as far as I can tell, but yet they have all these secrets and all this knowledge about the "cult," if you will.
I was taught one thing when I was being TRAINED as an OPERATIVE and that is that I am a LONE WOLF.
This is the most effective type of OPERATIVE.
To connect yourself with ANYONE who runs inside the "conspiracy" circle is not beneficial. There are too many who possess the "tools" needed to keep you under their control.
For instance, does Icke really indeed believe shape shifting lizards exist or is this "programming?"
I just can't imagine that anyone would buy into this and talk about it openly unless they were "programmed" to do so.
So, that is my point.
Many of them DISCREDIT the "mind control" trauma-based programs by including them in their information and then throwing in the shape-shifting lizard theory. By doing this, they basically "muddy" the waters for anyone who is truly looking to find information about these CIA sponsored programs.
The first thing they think is that this guy is loony and so, too, is everything that he writes about.
By doing this very thing, it appears to me that they are dispersing this unfounded shape-shifting lizard "theory" because they are mind controlled victims themselves or being paid generously to do so of their own free will.
I have conversed with some mind control victims who have written books and others within the conspiracy circle in the beginning during my awakening and I can tell you that I really didn't find them to be of much help.