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Old 10-17-2008, 10:59 AM
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However let us not forget the role of the parents here.

& this in a nutshell has been what's truly wrong in the way our society has been going......kids raising kids.

my kids enjoy Disney just as much as all their friends do....heck, we even took'em down there to Anaheim this summer (I know I know...bad parents, bad parents!!) however I feel that just as the buck stops w/bush (as in allowing leverage to go from 12-1 to 40-1..this would all be bad enuff at 12-1) it also stops w/the parents. I feel we can allow our kids to watch (w/in reason of course....no more than an hr or 2 a day) this stuff as long as we educate them & make sure that they are aware that it is ONLY TV....a medium of recreation....NOT an instiller of beliefs & values....that is up to the parents to make sure they are following thru with.

& speakin of which.....I gotta run....me & the 3 yr old gotta go out & do our thing.....catch up w/ya'll a lil later on....

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Old 10-17-2008, 05:36 PM
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However let us not forget the role of the parents here.

& this in a nutshell has been what's truly wrong in the way our society has been going......kids raising kids.

my kids enjoy Disney just as much as all their friends do....heck, we even took'em down there to Anaheim this summer (I know I know...bad parents, bad parents!!) however I feel that just as the buck stops w/bush (as in allowing leverage to go from 12-1 to 40-1..this would all be bad enuff at 12-1) it also stops w/the parents. I feel we can allow our kids to watch (w/in reason of course....no more than an hr or 2 a day) this stuff as long as we educate them & make sure that they are aware that it is ONLY TV....a medium of recreation....NOT an instiller of beliefs & values....that is up to the parents to make sure they are following thru with.

& speakin of which.....I gotta run....me & the 3 yr old gotta go out & do our thing.....catch up w/ya'll a lil later on....

Cheers!!
Society has a role as well in protecting our children, but when the CONTROLLERS own the media, own television, own the music industry, the entertainment industry, than SOCIETY cannot protect our children from the infiltration of their very young and impressionable minds.

This is how they GROOM, shape and mold our youngsters without having direct contact with them.

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Old 10-17-2008, 05:57 PM
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Only to an extent is my point....as long as the parents or guardians are the one's who are in control..the problem is when parents are not there or do not play the role that a parent must in their child's upbringing.....then agreed, they will eventually become more influenced by that media then the influence of that of their parents. & I can tell you in all honesty that our kids are not "Disney programmed"...& that goes for all the commercials they view as well.

I take full responsibility for my kids & if they ever began showing signs of being brainwashed or even begin placing too much value on any of this stuff, we would step in immediately & set them straight. You sound as if u feel that parents have no control over the matter & Co's like Disney, etc are the one's who are pulling all the strings....at least that's how I'm reading you....perhaps I'm not totally understanding you which could very well be the case here.

Even so.....I can assure you that as far as our girls go, TV & subliminal ads may play a role in their lives but they are not programmed by any of it to a degree that is compromising them negatively in any way.

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Old 10-17-2008, 08:20 PM
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As I said, society cannot protect our children from the influence that the CONTROLLERS have on them.

Influence being the OPERATIVE word.

We are all products of our environments.

Yes.

Our HOME environment is important, but WE cannot protect our children from the influence that the controllers have over our children.

Whether it be in SCHOOL, through cinema, television, music, etc.

I'm not saying all children are programmed.

I am saying they are influenced to some degree.

Some more so than others.

Being programmed would constitute being a victim of a mind control program.
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Old 10-22-2008, 10:18 AM
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lets say that DSOTM and Wizard of OZ is a true myth...

I can prove it.

YouTube - zausuaz's Channel

Disney is some SICK shit...
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Old 10-22-2008, 02:01 PM
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Pls excuse my ignorance but what/who is dsotm?

& the Wall-E clip?

What are you getting at by that? I'm not sure what that was supposed to prove?

Nice Floyd tune atached to it tho.

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Old 10-23-2008, 05:59 AM
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scary stuff from Disney here... i mean REAL scary.
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Old 10-23-2008, 09:28 AM
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Sorry....but u still dint answer my 2 questions...what does dsotm stand for & what exactly was the point of the Wall-E clip?

if ya can't answer or choose not to.....no worries....I think I'll know why you choose not to.
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Old 10-30-2008, 11:28 AM
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Sorry....but u still dint answer my 2 questions...what does dsotm stand for & what exactly was the point of the Wall-E clip?

if ya can't answer or choose not to.....no worries....I think I'll know why you choose not to.
Sorry about that, i thought i got kicked from this forum, alot of folks outright hate this idea, enough to ban me for life from several forums, but i supposed we are all programmed to continue in zealotrious denial.

Nevertheless I didnt think id get kicked for life from 75% of above mentioned forums, anyway back to your questions

DSOTM = the pink floyd album "dark side of the moon", there was a rumor you start it on the third lions roar(or the first) and the album plays through with lyrics that detail an illuminati message(i use the word illuminati in the respect that the person who sees it is usually not illuminated, thus only those with eyes to see can decipher the message, its actually very simple once you have your bearings on symbolism and their methods, usually puns, play on words, or certain masonic hand signals, an easy one to spot is the "pyramid" or "diamond" of the two thumbs and the rest of the hand forming a triangle)

The Wizard of Oz itself was written by an admitted occultist(and many believe he was an insider), you can see in the writing some of the double binds(essentially artificial confusion) he uses with the scarecrow needing a brain(but always having the best ideas) the cowardly lion(who when needed is the bravest), and the tinman who needs a heart(but is constantly the most emotional character).

Anyway, Pink Floyd's THE WALL, most likely what all hippies, beatniks, hells angels, and influential song writers abroad hail as the single album that has a complete map of human experience, and within it...

Who knows? Maybe roger waters and david gilmour are innocent men, but through some trickery/sleight of hand the entire album is corrupt with government propaganda to freemasonic symbolism(it seems like the movie "the wall" was the template for the album, rather than the other way around).

Like history can only tell, the human race is a broken record(litterally, and figuritively) of hanging out on Earth doing mostly nothing, and also annihilating one another whilst building ever more complex and dangerous technology.

Think about it, there has never been "world peace"... ever... in all of human history there is no point at which the whole world was working together and/or just not killing eachother. Couple that with the fact that we already had the technology to destroy the Earth...

...100 years ago.

Now we litterally have enough nuclear armaments to put out our entire solar system...

But, i digress, back to why Wall E and The Wall match up as they do.

Its very simple, they want you to know, the "walls" are at the End. Their psychological walls must be taken down before 2012, It is a part of Freemasonic spiritual law(funny that about wal and law, or realize and real-eyes, or history, his-story? why not, it is but a thought made action right?)

The freemasons are horrible people, so horrible the only reason they still enact "fair warning" on the general populace they are brainwashing is to hopefully catch the smart ones, use them or kill them as they see fit.

Forgive my rambling, it takes alot of context to get this idea across. You must understand that the reason the illuminati became so prevalent was because over many years people had been planted in newspapers and any other form of promotion. As influential writers and role-models for the public(I E the public would follow like sheep) they were in a unique position to rile up the people at will, thus the government could get away with any war it wanted, which is quite the profitable business if you dont lose.

Not only that, but the people worked hard knowing if they didnt they could very well be bombed.

Then, the widespread use of radio became its own propaganda machine. So powerful it even denied the inventor for 30 years...

look up the Marconi/Tesla case, The supreme court ruled for tesla because his patent of the "tesla coil" was the first wireless power transmission system, and could not only project radio waves, but also power lightbulbs, and if large enough even for miles away...

In any case it wasnt long before the ability to create one massive network of propaganda arose in the form of the television...

The cathode ray tube, ever wonder why it has a maltese cross at one end?
Do you really think they invented it for "your" entertainment/news? Or if they did do that, who do you think has the money to keep it going?
Here's one for ya, Hollywood, otherwise known as "ancient druidic wand used to cast spells on the audience"... look what came out of hollywood then and now.

Sorry, NOW, back to the Wizard of Oz, Judy Garland plays Dorothy, and in a song in the movie references "the side of the moon you cannot see"
Judy Garland dies, 1969, the year Apollo 11 touches the face of the moon...

Dark side of the moon comes out 1973... and wouldn't you know it a "rumor" with aparently no origin says if you play it with the Wizard of Oz 1939 a strange effect is had.

This would mean the album was written as a score, with enough bells and whistles to keep the populace with only part the "true" meaning. And why is it that there arent alot of people who "get" pink floyd?

Well, maybe it was all part of the plan, honestly i cant tell you all the messages that are embedded, its not as simple as that.

I can tell you that the E(5th letter of the alphabet, 22nd from last) V(roman numeral, 22nd letter of the alphabet, and 5th from last) and trinity theme is damn prevalent.

EVE is the name of the female robot of the film, she is based on a cell phone, and is opened by a robotic arm that types in a 5 digit code(in the form of a pentagram, have to watch closely), a GREEN symbol on her chest irepresents the TRINITY of the godhead(with stem its just a christian cross) the opening is followed by the stock sound "the matrix" used as the "glitch" soundeffect...
In The Wall/WALLE synced vid of the song "mother"(EVE, biblical)(all of the above is happening as the song starts with a DIAL TONE)

In the opening scene of "the matrix" what do we see?

TRINITY running from three agents, in order to escape she has to make it to a "telephone booth"(which happens to be green) she stands in front of a brick wall, and before traveling through to the "real world"... holds up her hand.

the 5's WALL (E) EVE
the trinity within EVE, holds the plant that brings the humans "back to earth" she is based on a phone!
the three agents, trinity within the telephone booth and... brick wall.

In V for vendetta(2 5's) the female characters name is EVEY(5/22 22/5 5/22 Y = 25/2 alphabetical order)

The 5th of November?
The premise of the movie? The government should fear the people, and "there is no such thing as coincidence"?

When you are watching the vids, you might want to keep track of the song name, for instance Another brick in the wall pt 1's ending is when WALL E becomes a part of his "wall" in the form of... a "brick"...

Hidden in plain sight is the moto, its been that way for a long time.
It would help you to know that a hexagon is infact actually a cube in 2 dimentions with center point as foreground and background, and the cube is a huge symbol.

Bill and teds excellent adventure... a poster,

A telephone booth, and keanu's legs frame "one".

So much for the joke about bill and teds being a prequel to "the matrix"...


I chose the above to illustrate yet another way to represent a symbol, as you can see this is a hallway, and at the end are three agents, you can plainly see this.

What you see but dont register is this...


The shape is the same, minus four sides, as you can see in the above pyramids of egypt actually have 8 sides, 4 convex and 4 corners.

The "pyramid" is just another trigger, to remind your subconscious self that you are at the bottom, not the top where the "eye" is given light to see by.

hope this clears a bit up.

EDIT: forgot to add that the three agents are also within a "cube/square", another representation of the trinity of the godhead.
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Old 10-30-2008, 12:03 PM
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Well thx for the very thurough explanation.....I dont have time to make as detailed of a reply as I'd like but I will say this....

W/re to Floyd, especially Waters who I have ALL his solo work & have seen at least 3 times now....always catch him when he stops in town....will never miss a show of his...thus I am quite familair w/all the Floyd work as well.....are you saying the that there's hidden meaning in this work that actually is supporting of the "institutions"?

I would have to say to the contrary, Waters has always been one who speaks out AGAINST the institutions....after all, this is EXACTLY what the Wall speaks to.....the manipulation (or attempts of) by the powers that be & the need & want to break away from all that...attempting to step out of the mold & be an individual. & of course much of his work (not so much Gilmour as far as solo stuff goes anyway) speaks to this....how about Radio KAOS...or even Amused to Death. Both solo albuns from Waters which also speak to this in part as well.

If I am reading you correctly here, I must say, I'm not so sure you have Waters properly pegged.....in fact I know you don't if this is how you understand his work & the message he tries to convey. Have you ever heard Waters in an interview? If so, you must agree that he is very much opposed to supression of the masses & works very hard towards the rights of individuals. After all, he was a product of the controlling British school system & this is where much of his muse comes from.

Very good stuff here though....when I have time I'd like to comeback & speak moreso to some of the other issues/points you've raised....some truly good stuff indeed...tyvm!!

& to think here I was just about ready to remove myself from this "group"....I say "group" b/c it seems there's really only a few here (at best) who post on a regular basis...speaking of which....was that your alias that got banned for a coupla weeks....was it Leonardo? Is that another one of your ally's? If so, you may know that I was not in favor of that....needless censorship.....typical over reaction by one who has a few issues...& sad to know that someone like this has the power to ban someone....a very sad statement of the parnoia that exists in our society.

Anyway....was just curious & thot I'd ask....& thx again for the very well written reply....much appreciation for your thots & views.

Cheers Mate!
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