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Old 04-01-2005, 08:05 PM
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One of the ways people seek to minmise the understanding of the greatest catastrophe in human history is to reduce complex issues down to simplistic theories.

For instance...Hitler as simple "Monster". "Madman" etc... He was in fact a mortal human being like you and me. He was used in a complex double cross to further the aims of an Elite group of Bankers and Industrialists.

By bathing Hitler in simplistic, emotional metaphors we are denied the understanding of the complex forces that pushed him to power.

Their aims and methods are obscured and kept in the background.

Hence the need to exaggerate and outright lie in as graphic and emotive terms as possible Germanies behaviour in WW2, to obscure the real driving force of the war.

The International Banking Elite.

They financed Communism and were it's lifeblood as Anthony Sutton has written so well in "Wall Street & The Bolshevik Revoloution".

Through the fear generated by this leviathon (Soviet Union) 'they' created, it was possible to motivate an entire region to war, profit and Elite ideological goals.

With the advent of movies seeking to explore the complexities of characters and happenings of WW2, we see the pulling out of old crap trying to portray Hitler and the war as some simple compensation for an individuals childhood struggles.

With the full extension of this reductionist thinking we can make no proud claims of ANYTHING. You won first place in the Olympics? So what, you're just compensating because Mummy and Daddy did'nt love you enough. Produce fine art? So what, you're just sublimating the fact that you want to fuck your Mother.

This way of thinking has it's origens in Freud who reduced EVERYTHING to repressed sexuality. Perhaps Freud should have taken his own advice and realised sometimes a cigar is just a good cigar.

This was the ultimate reason for the breakup between Freud and Carl Jung who refused to concede that all culture, human expression and fine doings was simply a compensation of some kind. For Jung, the Unconscious (as opposed to Freuds view of it as a simple garbage dump) was the well spring of all human art, science and the deepest longings.

When I see tripe such as this below, my blood boils.

The complexities and intruiges of the war are reduced to a simple analysis of Hitlers nasty Daddy or Hitlers bowel habits. Hitler as circus freak.

Many young boys are dreamers and have powerful, nasty daddy's, do they all run off to become politions and try to save the world? The premise is absurd and yet this thinking permiates ALL of the University thinking...(Kinsey et al).

We are all containers for a specific calling. A specific thing to do, given the time alloted us by the Allmighty.

Hitler believed his was to rid Europe of the threat of Godless Communism, rightly portrayed then as the work of the anti-christ. At this stage it was well known Churches were either destroyed or used as pig pens.

Stalin had amassed over 30,000 armoured vehicles before the war. What were they for? Sight seeing?

Not to mention the millions killed outright or starved to death under Stalins and Lenins policies.

Hitler was NO angel. Hitler, as well as Germany as a whole, has been lumped with the responsibility of WW2 while the true perpertrators wring their hands of all responsibility...especially the British Elite.

Thank God, as always, the truth gets out.

You will see many attempts at explaining away phenomena with the reductionist thinking of Psychoanalysis. Your own life may be explained away by it. Psychotherapy, as a possible useful tool, has been kidnapped by the State and now serves it's purposes.

Soon, dissent and questioning the role of Government will be diagnosed. You are projecting your lust for power onto the harmless and good State...and must be disposed of.

I personally blame my Mother for everything.

She's used to it.

http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/story.jsp?story=625311
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Portrait of the Führer as a dreamer with a complex about his sexuality
By Jonathan Brown

01 April 2005

Adolf Hitler had a feminine side: a romantic dreamer who loved painting ruined castles, he saw himself as the hero and author of his own great epic story. He was also deeply confused about his sexuality.

A previously unseen psychological profile, compiled as the Third Reich approached collapse in 1943, has concluded that the Führer's loathing of his own perceived weaknesses was to blame for his murderous megalomania.

The report, which emerged this month at the Cornell University Law Library, has sent a wave of excitement through scholars of the Nazi period. It coincides with the release today in British cinemas of the powerful new film Downfall that details Hitler's desperate final days in his Berlin bunker.

Written by Henry Murray, a prominent personality specialist at Harvard University in the middle of the past century, it seeks to explain, through the use of existing texts, the motivation for Hitler's behaviour.

Among the conclusions, based partly on the use of metaphors in his book Mein Kampf, other writings and biographies, is that Hitler was unable to come to terms with his complex sexuality. According to Mr Murray, being caught in a sexual encounter with a girl of 12 left the future dictator with syphilophobia - a morbid fear of contaminating the blood through contact with a woman. He was also deeply scarred from seeing his three-times married, highly promiscuous and illegitimate father having sex with his mother.

Confusing sexuality, which he considered "exceedingly filthy", with the act of excretion, Hitler was both impotent and a "fully fledged masochist". But his inability to consummate the sex act left him with "exorbitant cravings for superiority".

To further complicate matters, the Führer may also have been homosexual as well. According to Mr Murray he found himself in awe of strong homosexual characters. His recurring nightmares were reminiscent of "homosexual panic", argues Mr Murray. While on one hand he had an "Oedipal complex", he was also beaten by his sadistic father, a man whom he both idolised and loathed.

The 1943 profile was commissioned by the Office of Strategic Services, a forerunner of the Central Intelligence Agency. It had been assumed that the OSS only commissioned one study of Hitler's mind - a wartime report by Walter Langer.

Mr Murray paid particular attention to Hitler's childhood. He believed that if he could understand the make-up of the leader then he could appreciate the psyche of the German population that had fallen under his spell. He wrote: "Hitler's unprecedented appeal, the elevation of this man to the status of a demi-god, can be explained only on the hypothesis that he and his ideology have almost exactly met the needs, longings and sentiments of the German people."

Describing Hitler's early life, he wrote: "Hitler has many weaknesses. There is a large feminine component to his constitution. As a child he was frail and sickly, emotionally dependent on his mother. He never did any manual work, never engaged in athletics, was turned down as forever unfit for conscription in the Austrian army."

When he finally joined up he was "outwardly submissive and later annoyingly subservient" to senior officers. His experiences in the war left him with a severe neurosis and hysterical blindness.

But while Hitler was a "hive of secret neurotic compunctions and feminine sentimentalities" there was also a deep strain of creativeness. He loved painting temples and castles, though he preferred to depict them in ruins - symbolising his love of destruction. Unlike other politicians, he saw himself as a Romantic artist and even dreamed of retiring after he had achieved world domination to paint quietly.

Reviewers admit that Hitler's troubled personality oozes from the closely typed pages of the manuscript.

Among the final recommendations are how the Allies should handle Hitler if he were to be captured. He recommends secretly filming and recording him in his cell to convince his followers once and for all that he was insane. Among the names suggested to give him when talking to his defeated countrymen are False Prophet or False Messiah then Corporal Satan or World Criminal No 1.

Mr Murray also foresees that he will fight to the bitter end. "There is a powerful compulsion in him to sacrifice himself and all of Germany to the revengeful annihilation of Western culture, to die, dragging all of Europe with him into the abyss," Mr Murray wrote. Of the final chapter to Hitler's tragedy, one outcome he envisages is suicide - which in the end proved the preferred exit for the defeated Führer.

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Old 04-02-2005, 04:11 AM
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I was going to post this article about Freud and psychoanalysis anyway so why not here? ;-)

Let's put Freud where he belongs: in the group of abused, neurotic, sexobsessed, quasi-"scientific", atheist and therefore ultimately modern in the most negative sense of the word.
The quote below says a lot about the modus operandi of Freud's fraud - a substitution and counterfeit of God and religion - called psychoanalysis.

<a href="http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=1602">Sigmund Freud
David McCalden - Extracted frm Exiles from History</a>

"In the area of payment, modern analysts follow Freud's true and tested method:

"Freud ingeniously tied the fee to results. If the fee is very low, he warned, the value of the treatment will be denigrated in the patient's eyes. Free treatment is an analytic disaster, he insisted. Without the 'corrective influence' of money, the patient is supposedly deprived of a 'useful incentive to exert himself to bring the cure to an end'.

"Only in a few areas does the modern analysis so slavishly follow Freud. The bill for the month's analysis (some $1000 at $50 an hour) is not mailed. It is presented, eyeball-to-psyche, to the patient at the end of the month. If payment is not forthcoming in time, there is an automatic reminder in the next bill. The next step is medicine's most effective collection system: the analyst injects the unpaid bill into the analytic work to find the unconscious reason for the resistance."
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Old 04-02-2005, 09:42 AM
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Do we all agree that

Freud gave humanity pyschological poison

Marx gave humanity economic poison and

Einstein gave humanity science poison ?
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YES.

And they all together combined to give us the SPIRITUAL poison to forget God.
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Old 04-03-2005, 02:19 PM
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Draken you summed it up perfectly.

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