Otherwise no obligation could be considered binding upon him. No atheists allowed.
What a BS answer.
You say, Freemasonry is not a religion, but you can't join unless you're a Christian because otherwise no obligation could be considered binding upon him.
HUH?
Makes no sense, Pal.
If it's not a RELIGION, why does it require that you be a religion to join?
If Freemasonry isn't a religion, why is it that no obligation would be considered binding upon a member unless they were Christian?
No atheists are allowed, I guess, cause Freemasonry isn't a religion.
Huh?
Makes no sense, Pal.
Think before you type.
THEY hide behind the guise of RELIGION just like the Catholic Church's pedophile priests do.
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Freemasonry is not a religion, but you can't join unless you're a Christian because otherwise no obligation could be considered binding upon him.
Did you even read what I said before about it's open to ALL religions, not just Christian.
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No atheists are allowed, I guess, cause Freemasonry isn't a religion.
Did you even take a look at the quoted box I posted? I'll post it again:
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Freemasonry is not a religion, nor is it a substitute for religion. It requires of its members a belief in God as part of the obligation of every responsible adult, but advocates no sectarian faith or practice. Masonic ceremonies include prayers, both traditional and extempore, to reaffirm each individual's dependence on God and to seek divine guidance. Freemasonry is open to men of any faith, but religion may not be discussed at Masonic meetings.
Freemasonry lacks the basic elements of religion:
It has no dogma or theology, no wish or means to enforce religious orthodoxy
It offers no sacraments.
It does not claim to lead to salvation by works, by secret knowledge, or by any other means. The secrets of Freemasonry are concerned with modes of recognition, not with the means of salvation.
THE POINT IS THAT FREEMASONRY IS NOT A RELIGION, BUT ONE MUST BE A RELIGION TO JOIN.
Apparently, you can't explain that one.
I guess I'll put more clearly:
Freemasonry is not a religion, nor is it a substitute for religion. It requires of its members a belief in God as part of the obligation of every responsible adult, but advocates no sectarian faith or practice. Masonic ceremonies include prayers, both traditional and extempore, to reaffirm each individual's dependence on God and to seek divine guidance. Freemasonry is open to men of any faith, but religion may not be discussed at Masonic meetings.
Freemasonry lacks the basic elements of religion:
It has no dogma or theology, no wish or means to enforce religious orthodoxy
It offers no sacraments.
It does not claim to lead to salvation by works, by secret knowledge, or by any other means. The secrets of Freemasonry are concerned with modes of recognition, not with the means of salvation.
Freemasonry is not a religion, nor is it a substitute for religion. It requires of its members a belief in God as part of the obligation of every responsible adult, but advocates no sectarian faith or practice. Masonic ceremonies include prayers, both traditional and extempore, to reaffirm each individual's dependence on God and to seek divine guidance. Freemasonry is open to men of any faith, but religion may not be discussed at Masonic meetings.
Freemasonry lacks the basic elements of religion:
It has no dogma or theology, no wish or means to enforce religious orthodoxy
It offers no sacraments.
It does not claim to lead to salvation by works, by secret knowledge, or by any other means. The secrets of Freemasonry are concerned with modes of recognition, not with the means of salvation.
If Freemasonry requires that you believe in GOD and are of a religion to become a member, but espouses it is not a RELIGION, something is wrong there, pal.
It's a religion of its' own kind.
They've just hoodwinked you into believing they're of the Christian sort.
If Freemasonry requires that you believe in GOD and are of a religion to become a member, but espouses it is not a RELIGION, something is wrong there, pal.
Really? How?
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It's a religion of its' own kind.
By definition, no its not.
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They've just hoodwinked you into believing they're of the Christian sort.
Nope. They don't hoodwink anyone into believing they are a particular religion since that is not allowed in the Lodge.
Nope. They don't hoodwink anyone into believing they are a particular religion since that is not allowed in the Lodge.
I didn't say they hoodwinked anyone into believing they were of a particular religion.
I SAID that FREEMASONRY states they are not a religion, but one must be a religion to become a member.
HYPOCRITICAL.
I said they've hoodwinked you into believing they are a religion because you must be a religion to join and no atheists are allowed, so, therefore, everyone believes in GOD, so therefore you think it's a religion, but they are of a different religion.
I didn't say they hoodwinked anyone into believing they were of a particular religion.
You were saying?
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They've just hoodwinked you into believing they're of the Christian sort.
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I SAID that FREEMASONRY states they are not a religion, but one must be a religion to become a member.
HYPOCRITICAL.
In your opinion.
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I said they've hoodwinked you into believing they are a religion because you must be a religion to join and no atheists are allowed, so, therefore, everyone believes in GOD, so therefore you think it's a religion, but they are of a different religion.
That's why we use phrases like "Supreme (or Grand) Architect of the Universe".