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Old 01-16-2009, 01:11 AM
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Default Flight 1549 in the Hudson


I've always thought something huge may occur close to the weekend before the inauguration. The emergency landing of Flight 1549 into the Hudson was quite incredible and if not for the excellent piloting and response from the airline crew, that plane could very well have crashed into some densely populated sections of NY or NJ, possibly killing the passengers as well as hundreds if not thousands of people depending on where it crashed.

I've seen videos of birds hitting planes and their engines, causing planes to go down, so I know it's quite possible although very rare. That being said, I can't help but also wonder whether the heroic actions of the pilot could've thwarted some sort of planned operation. It would have been much harder to find evidence for tampering, or a planted bomb, on the charred wreckage of a land crashed plane. Now that the plane is completely intact, whether it was a bird(s) or something else that could've caused both engines to fail (I believe it was both) can be investigated.

Mind you, I'm just wondering...as I always do whenever something this newsworthy takes place. I'm looking forward to the plane and engines being fully inspected and hope it's done in an open way for all to have access to the results.

I'm sure I'm not the only person wondering as well. What are your thoughts?

P.S. I'm new to this forum so let me just say once again.... I'm JUST wondering.... not making any claims, hehe.. I've seen how some treat others sometimes on here. I'm not blaming Bush, Obama, Zionists, Freemasons, Christians, Muslims..... or Canadians.


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Old 01-16-2009, 11:15 AM
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Exclamation Re: Flight 1549 - there ARE other Possible Causes...

I agree with your thoughts on Flight 1549.

Here are a few other facts to consider: the bird migration patterns run primarily from April through October (it is now mid-Jan) and both engines being affected at the same time is extremely rare .


In addition, the wreckage will be studied "out of the sight of the public" in order to determine the cause.


BTW, all of the points above are from early national news coverage of this event.

The most telling information often comes out right after an accident or other negative event occurs (first interviews with victims before they are told not to talk, early photos, etc.) then mostly disappear as "the authorities" get involved and squelch information in an effort to protect us from our natural fears, anxieties and possible panic.

I hope at least some of the media will have open access to the wreckage-analysis process (or at least have good connected anonymous sources who will provide them with the facts as they are uncovered).

Will we ever REALLY know the TRUE cause? Hard to say, isn't it?

Here's something that struck me (other than the accident being so close to the inauguration): when I heard that it was Flight 1549 the numbers had a familiar pattern... 5 minus 4 is 1, and 1-1-9 is 911 in reverse--suggesting the possibility that this may have been caused by something other than "just birds".

Perhaps a confused terrorist used to reading right to left?

Anyway, the gov't has ZERO incentive to admit the cause was something other than birds; after all, why create a public scare so close to the inauguration AND more importantly in this fear-driven economy. That would naturally only make things worse. We all remember what Sept. 11 did...


But Kudos to the truly amazing pilot and the fast-acting crew and rescuers--"Miracle on the Hudson" is an understatement, isn't it.

Take care and keep considering all possibilities (good and bad).

--Cat

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Old 01-16-2009, 12:19 PM
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Here are a few other facts to consider: the bird migration patterns run primarily from April through October (it is now mid-Jan) and both engines being affected at the same time is extremely rare .

Hi Cat, and thanks for sharing. Interesting info regarding the bird migration patterns. I was expecting to see footage of flocks of birds flying on the runway sometime yesterday or today but figured that since I don't have cable and the news channels running the story constantly I just may have missed it. Plus I figured all the attention would be focused on the plane .. but surely some junior crew could have been sent to the airport.

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In addition, the wreckage will be studied "out of the sight of the public" in order to determine the cause.
That's too bad.

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The most telling information often comes out right after an accident or other negative event occurs (first interviews with victims before they are told not to talk, early photos, etc.) then mostly disappear as "the authorities" get involved and squelch information in an effort to protect us from our natural fears, anxieties and possible panic.
Too True!!

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Here's something that struck me (other than the accident being so close to the inauguration): when I heard that it was Flight 1549 the numbers had a familiar pattern... 5 minus 4 is 1, and 1-1-9 is 911 in reverse--suggesting the possibility that this may have been caused by something other than "just birds".
Quite a stretch .. but ain't that what we're good at! Too coinkidinkie if ya ask me.


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Perhaps a confused terrorist used to reading right to left?

ROFLMAO .. Good one!!


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Anyway, the gov't has ZERO incentive to admit the cause was something other than birds; after all, why create a public scare so close to the inauguration AND more importantly in this fear-driven economy. That would naturally only make things worse. We all remember what Sept. 11 did...

That's exactly where my concern lies. My initial fear of an event taking place so close to the inauguration was that it'd be done to incite fear and panic during the transition. I was afraid some 3rd term edict during national crisis would have gone into effect.... written as fine print in one of the many last minute bills put into place during the past couple of months.

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But Kudos to the truly amazing pilot and the fast-acting crew and rescuers--"Miracle on the Hudson" is an understatement, isn't it.

Yessirree!!! What an awesome pilot and crew. I'm glad they can be considered the heroes in this incident instead of the corpse recovery crews ... or black clad military police immediately dispatched to control the population.

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Take care and keep considering all possibilities (good and bad).

Thank you once again for replying and giving great input for me to continue to consider.

--- KJ

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Old 01-16-2009, 06:09 PM
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Ok, I can now turn my Conspiracy alert to orange now as I'm just learning on the news that the engines are missing from the plane and searchers plan to search for BOTH of them at the bottom of the Hudson.

I can now make my claim that rogue Canadian Geese, frustrated and exhausted due to their yearly migration south en masse, flew not INTO the engines, but along side them with tools, dismantled them, and have taken them to their secret bunker where they plan to build their own jet liner to accommodate the geese who are tired of flying south on their own.

I predict that evidence will be found, in the form of sets of tools stolen from a La Guardia airport hangar, in a New Jersey storage unit filled with geese shit. The tools were stolen because the Canadian Geese only had access to metric tools and these will be american standard!!

Who's with me?!!!!

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Old 01-16-2009, 06:20 PM
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I laugh at your post only because all passengers survived.

From what untrustworthy news source did you hear this?

Obviously, the FAA will not be producing the geese feathers from the engines of the plan as evidence.

I'm currently watching the local 5 o'clock news and they did a lead in saying that both engines were missing. I've watched it through the plane coverage and now there's no mention of missing engines. Hmmmm... seems either my local news channel is desperate for ratings... or the B.C. Geese syndicate got to them.

I was just about to post a question to others whether they've heard anything of missing engines before you replied.
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Old 01-16-2009, 06:22 PM
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I laugh at your post only because all passengers survived.

That wasn't part of the diabolical plan!! Geese aren't perfect.
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Old 01-16-2009, 06:28 PM
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I'm just being ridiculous at the moment as humour's my way of dealing with this incident until further info comes to light.
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Old 01-16-2009, 06:53 PM
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Thanks so much for citing info to support my earlier post.

I remember yesterday a pilot being interviewed said he was impressed the 1549 pilot made the river landing as the engines are lower than the belly of the craft. Missing engines can explain the somewhat smooth landing and also can go to prove that the engines were missing BEFORE the plane hit the water.

I understand that they reported no communication between the pilot and Control Tower shortly before the plane is believed to have landed in the water. Key word being "reported" ....


Earlier BlueAngel you had mentioned something of seeds being planted (edited) ... Wish you had kept the entire post.

added--- I'm looking for sources to support the "engine lower than belly" quote. I'll try not to be so lazy in the future before I post something.
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Old 01-16-2009, 07:09 PM
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By DAVID B. CARUSO and VERENA DOBNIK
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NEW YORK (AP) - Investigators trying to determine how birds could have brought down US Airways Flight 1549 were hampered by the swirling, bone-chilling waters of the Hudson River on Friday as they looked for the plane's two missing engines and tried to retrieve its black boxes.
The investigation ran into a series of obstacles one day after the pilot ditched the plane carrying 155 people into the river following an apparent collision with birds that caused both engines to fail. The jet went down just feet from the Manhattan skyline. All aboard survived.
Both engines broke off the plane sometime after the crash and sank to the bottom of the river, forcing investigators to use sonar to seach for them. The current was especially swift, making it impossible for crews to hoist the aircraft out of the water and remove its flight data recorder and cockpit voice recorder.
Investigators also had yet to interview the pilot, Chesley B. "Sully" Sullenberger. (more)

I take back my earlier claim for now of engines not being on plane before it landed in water, as it's plausible it could've broken off upon impact I suppose. Of course I'm no expert either. I'll just continue to wait/look for more info. Haven't found any mention of engine/belly levels yet.



Forgive me in advance please for making further unsupported claims as I'm sure I will, hehe.

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Old 01-19-2009, 12:28 PM
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Something is happening tommorrow, I can feel it. Be ready America.
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