Are the Masons evil? - Page 12

Mintwithahole. · #**111** 07-08-2009, 10:35 AM

It's commandment 1, 2, 3, 6 and 9. which apparently have to be broken.
Also explain this to me if you're really christian, god fearing folk.

"A considerable amount of excision was necessitated by the alteration of the clause in the masonic constitution which changed masonry from a christian to a non christian basis."

The Higher Degree Handbook. p25.
JSM Ward. 33degree mason.

Non christian basis? Doesn't sound much like you are christian to me. . .

KSigMason · #**112** 07-08-2009, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mintwithahole.

It's commandment 1, 2, 3, 6 and 9. which apparently have to be broken.
Also explain this to me if you're really christian, god fearing folk.

"A considerable amount of excision was necessitated by the alteration of the clause in the masonic constitution which changed masonry from a christian to a non christian basis."

The Higher Degree Handbook. p25.
JSM Ward. 33degree mason.

Non christian basis? Doesn't sound much like you are christian to me. . .

Freemasonry holds no religion as it's religion. You just have to be religious to join. As we cannot be secular or be particular to any certain religion we moved to a non-denomination basis.

I talked about the Commandments in my previous post.

Leonardo · #**113** 07-15-2009, 06:58 PM

So basically what you are saying is that Freemasonry takes religious people and changes them into non-religious people.

KSigMason · #**114** 07-16-2009, 02:33 PM

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So basically what you are saying is that Freemasonry takes religious people and changes them into non-religious people.

That's not what I said at all. We are taught to each worship our creator in our own way. The Lodge is not the place to talk about secular religion as we are made up of members of different faiths. Freemasonry ensures tolerance of the religions so no discord occurs; respect for one another's views.

BlueAngel · #**115** 07-16-2009, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KSigMason

That's not what I said at all. We are taught to each worship our creator in our own way. The Lodge is not the place to talk about secular religion as we are made up of members of different faiths. Freemasonry ensures tolerance of the religions so no discord occurs; respect for one another's views.

Boy, those Freemason elders have taught you well.

They've taught you that outside of the lodge, you can tolerate all religions so no discord occurs and to have respect for other's views.

Too bad your own INTELLIGENCE couldn't teach you this and that you needed to become a Freemason in order to obtain this knowledge.

Thou shall not judge.

It's written in the bible, but you needed to become a Freemason to learn this.

And you're what religion?

You know the bible from front to back, but the words, "Thou shall not judge," never resonated with you until your Freemason elders taught you to become tolerable.

You sound like a person who can't think for themselves.

BlueAngel · #**116** 07-16-2009, 10:58 PM

KSigMason, obviously, you have relinquished your brain to to the Freemason elders who tell you how to think, act and behave.

It's called mind control.

You appear to be HELPLESS without Freemasonry.

It's called mind control.

I think it's time you do some soul searching without the influence of others.

Regain your brain and think for yourself.

It's called MIND CONTROL, pal, and you are complicit in allowing others to manipulate and tell you how to think, act and behave.

It's called mind control.

Kindly remove yourself from your connections to Freemasonry and tell us what YOU think and not what THEY want you to think.

Leonardo · #**117** 07-17-2009, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by KSigMason

That's not what I said at all. We are taught to each worship our creator in our own way. The Lodge is not the place to talk about secular religion as we are made up of members of different faiths. Freemasonry ensures tolerance of the religions so no discord occurs; respect for one another's views.

You mean respect for Luciferian unreligion like Thelema to which Ordo Illuminati swears allegience when they place their hand on the Book of the Law?

What do you mean?

Do you even know what you mean?

Do you mean anything?

KSigMason · #**118** 08-03-2009, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueAngel

They've taught you that outside of the lodge, you can tolerate all religions so no discord occurs and to have respect for other's views.

Too bad your own INTELLIGENCE couldn't teach you this and that you needed to become a Freemason in order to obtain this knowledge.

I didn't need the Freemasons to know this, but it's a rule in the Lodge.

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And you're what religion?

I am Christian, but as I said I didn't need the Freemasons. It's just one more thing I like about them...tolerance. Something many here don't quite grasp.

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KSigMason, obviously, you have relinquished your brain to to the Freemason elders who tell you how to think, act and behave.

Nope, in fact I'm the one who sets the precedent in the Lodge, which run themselves, as the Grand Lodge really only meets once a year.

Many of you are under the impression that I just walked into the Freemasons blindly without doing an ounce of research. I've looked at all the crap you all have. I read books, I looked at sites, I talked with people (for and against), and when I was ready I chose to join. I left the Mormon church because they tried to run my life. I chose to take the position I was elected to so I could leave my mark, not so I could be ran like some puppet.

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Originally Posted by Leonardo

You mean respect for Luciferian unreligion like Thelema to which Ordo Illuminati swears allegience when they place their hand on the Book of the Law?

What do you mean?

Do you even know what you mean?

Do you mean anything?

What I said isn't a hard concept.

BlueAngel · #**119** 08-03-2009, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KSigMason

I didn't need the Freemasons to know this, but it's a rule in the Lodge.

A rule? How lovely.

I am Christian, but as I said I didn't need the Freemasons. It's just one more thing I like about them...tolerance. Something many here don't quite grasp.

Many of us here have demonstrated that we grasp the concept of tolerance because we TOLERATE you and have tolerated much more. So, your statement would be INCORRECT.

I prefer to think outside of the box, but, in this case, my comments are contained inside the box.

KSigMason · #**120** 08-03-2009, 11:09 PM

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A rule? How lovely.

Many of us here have demonstrated that we grasp the concept of tolerance because we TOLERATE you and have tolerated much more. So, your statement would be INCORRECT.

Do you think rules bad?

You tolerate me because you have to, I have broken no rules so the mods/admin won't ban me. Besides that, what have I written that is so beyond reasonable that your words make it sound almost unbearable.