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Old 07-12-2009, 07:01 AM
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Normally, when THEY are involved in a criminal activity, conflicting information is purposely created around it so it is IMPOSSIBLE for the PUBLIC to know the truth, but rather so that THEY can investigate it, wrap it up and so be it!

Their hands are clean.

Michael Jackson would not have overdosed many years ago, because, perhaps, there weren't many people who knew of his drug abuse.

The prescription drug abuse scenario had to be in the making for many years so it could be blamed on HIM and not his doctors/controllers, etc.

JFK's assassination didn't become a conspiracy because it just happened that way.

They created the conspiracy complete with all the conflicting information, so they could implement the Warren Commission, come to a conclusion; wrap it up and come out with their hands clean.

As far as a MURDERING Michael Jackson to distract the public from a politician's infidelity, I highly doubt it.

What makes more sense is that Michael Jackson is more profitable for them dead than alive.

In addition, MJ was plagued with child abuse allegations.

This could go no further, because, if it did, he may have had potentially harmful information about THEM.

It it not uncommon that mind control victims are disposed of when they are no longer useful and/or become a threat.


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Old 07-12-2009, 11:46 AM
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Like I said in my post above:

CONFLICTING INFORMATION

Jackson, healthy or not? Depends on who's talking - Yahoo! News

Jackson, healthy or not? Depends on who's talking

AP 1 hr 58 mins ago

LOS ANGELES In his final days, Michael Jackson was robust and active. Or dangerously thin and frail. Begging for access to powerful prescription drugs. Or showing no signs of ever having used them.

It depends on who's talking.

A dizzying collection of puzzle pieces about Jackson's health and habits has come to light since his death on June 25. With as much as a month before a toxicology report determines the cause, more are sure to emerge.

Each is likely to fuel further speculation. None is sure to produce a satisfying conclusion.

Some who knew him even seem to contradict themselves.

Here's what's known so far:

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During his final rehearsal at the Staples Center, Jackson was captured on video doing his signature moonwalk and dance spins. Randy Phillips, CEO of concert promoter AEG Live, told CNN he was "a healthy, vibrant human being."

Phillips later told ABC concert organizers feared that Jackson was losing weight and showing signs of wear and tear. He said he hired a staffer whose purpose was to remind Jackson to eat.

Dr. Arnold Klein, Jackson's dermatologist, who said he last saw Jackson less than a week before he died, told CNN's Larry King that the singer was in "very good physical condition," in "a very good mood," and "was very happy."

Klein also told CNN that he had given Jackson the painkiller Demerol but warned him about using the powerful sedative Diprivan. He also confirmed that Jackson was a former drug addict who went to rehab in England.

"The Incredible Hulk" star Lou Ferrigno, who was helping Jackson prepare for a planned series of London concerts, told The Associated Press that he never saw Jackson take drugs, act aloof or speedy, and the singer wasn't frail when he last saw him at the end of May. "I've never seen him look better," he said.

Two of Jackson's former confidants, medium Uri Geller and ex-bodyguard Matt Fiddes, said they tried in vain to keep the pop superstar from abusing prescription drugs. Geller said he suffered a terrible falling-out with Jackson over the issue, but not before he had to "shout at Michael, to scream at Michael" in an effort to confiscate the singer's stocks of medication during his travels in England.

The drug Diprivan, an anesthetic widely used in operating rooms to induce unconsciousness, was found in Jackson's residence, a law enforcement official told the AP. Also known as Propofol, the drug is given intravenously and is very unusual to have in a private home.

Cherilyn Lee, a registered nurse, told the AP she repeatedly rejected his demands for Diprivan. But a frantic phone call she received from Jackson four days before his death made her fear that he somehow obtained Diprivan or another drug to induce sleep.

Akon, the Senegalese R&B singer and producer with whom Jackson recently recorded songs, told Billboard.com that "Michael is just one of the healthiest people that I know. He was pressuring me to stay healthy, like, 'Akon, eat right. What are you doing out there on the road? Are you eating? Are you exercising? Are you drinking a lot of water?'"

Klein said Jackson had been suffering from lupus a chronic disease where the immune system attacks the body's own tissue and a skin disorder known as vitiligo.

Jackson's personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, administered CPR on Jackson's bed, rather than a hard surface, "with his hand behind his back to provide the necessary support" because the singer was so frail, the doctor's attorney, Edward Chernoff, said.

Chernoff also told the AP that Murray never gave or prescribed Jackson the painkillers Demerol or OxyContin, and said the doctor didn't give the pop star any drugs that contributed to his death.

Among other things, Murray's lawyers have acknowledged it took up to 30 minutes for paramedics to be summoned to Jackson's home after he was found unresponsive.

Jackson's family requested a private autopsy in part because of questions about Murray's role, the Rev. Jesse Jackson has said.

Kevin Mazur, a photographer documenting the Staples Center rehearsals for a tour book, told the AP that Jackson looked in perfect health. "He was very upbeat, very happy, having a good time with the dancers," Mazur said.

Spiritual teacher Dr. Deepak Chopra told the AP he had been concerned since 2005 that Jackson was abusing painkillers and spoke to the pop star about suspected drug use as recently as six months ago. Chopra said Jackson, a longtime friend, personally asked him for painkillers in 2005; Chopra said he refused.

Los Angeles police chief William Bratton said detectives are looking at his prescription drug history and trying to talk with his numerous former doctors. He also says police are waiting for the coroner's report before ruling out any possibilities in their "comprehensive and far-reaching" probe, which includes the Drug Enforcement Administration and the state attorney general's office.

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Associated Press writer Michael R. Blood contributed to this report.
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Old 07-12-2009, 11:48 AM
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Okay then, in terminology everyone here can understand: If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck... Doesn't necessarily mean it is a duck, but it has all the characteristics of a duck. Does that make things any simpler???
Wow.

Okay, so I don't think you need to be defensive. I was legitimately trying to figure out what you typed, as it kind of made no sense. I mean, seriously, re-read what you wrote, and tell me that it makes no sense. I was just trying to clarify, not be snarky.

I'm not here to ruffle feathers, I'm here to learn and investigate. So cool it.
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Old 07-12-2009, 08:31 PM
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As I said before, these crimes are scenarioed out in such a way that they could address several different issues simultaneously. I agree with you that Jackson was worth more to the record companies dead than alive, but that is only part of an even broader picture. Here is a recording megastar on the brink of making a major comeback, complete with a whirlwind world tour, while at the same time a major political scandal breaks involving a high-ranking conservative Republican official. Now to say that some form of collusion exists between multi-billionaire record company executives and elements of the political far right probably isn't too much of a stretch, as we are talking about people of basically the same mindset. In any event, the timing of Jackson's death seems to benefit all of the parties involved here, both the capitalist record executives and the gumshoes of the political far-right. The only question here, if any, is which motive is overriding. I strongly suspect that the two motivating influences mentioned here are complimentary, although they may not be the ONLY motivating influences in this case (there may be more going on here than any of us could possibly suspect).

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Old 07-12-2009, 08:35 PM
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As I said before, these crimes are scenarioed out in such a way that they could address several different issues simultaneously. I agree with you that Jackson was worth more to the record companies dead than alive, but that is only part of an even broader picture. Here is a recording megastar on the brink of making a major comeback, complete with a whirlwind world tour, while at the same time a major political scandal breaks involving a high-ranking conservative Republican official. Now to say that some form of collusion exists or has existed between multi-billionaire record executives and elements of the political far right isn't too much of a stretch, as we are probably talking about people of basically the same mindset. In any event, the timing of Jackson's death seems to benefit all of the parties involved here, both the capitalist record executives and the gumshoes of the political far-right. The only question here, if any, is which motive is overriding. I strongly suspect that the two motivating influences mentioned here are complimentary, although they may not be the ONLY motivating influences in this case ( there may be more going on here than any of us could possibly suspect).
Oh, please.

Michael Jackson wasn't on the brink of a major comeback and kindly take your ridiculous theory that MJ was murdered by the right wingers to distract the citizen's of this country from the fact that one of our governor's had an affair elsewhere.

Yeah.

What a shock.

Infidelity by another politician.

Please distract me.

I can't stand the reality of it.

Michael Jackson hadn't produced much of anything for the music industry for a very long time since he was slapped with child sexual abuse charges.

They were financing him.

That isn't the way it works in their world.

You are to finance them.

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Old 07-12-2009, 08:46 PM
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Just stop it already.

Your theory is about as ridiculous as I've ever heard.

Don't even reply.

Let this thread die.

Not even worth a discussion.

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Old 07-12-2009, 08:48 PM
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Don't reply.

I know you want to, but, don't.

I'm trying to help you save whatever credibility you have left on this site, if any.

Just let this thread dissolve.
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Old 07-12-2009, 08:52 PM
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Michael Jackson was not killed/murdered by the right-wingers.

Your theory sounds like some CRAZY conspiracy theory.

We're not crazy conspiracy theorists here.

We're sane CONSPIRACY theorists.

Michael Jackson was killed/murdered by the THUGS within the music industry.

His handlers/controllers and doctors.

PERIOD.

How does Michael Jackson's father/mother, siblings and their families support themselves?

Details, please.

How do they derive an income?

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Old 07-12-2009, 08:57 PM
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What about LaToya?

What is her profession?

How does she derive an income?

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Old 07-13-2009, 09:18 PM
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No, I'm not through yet... More shall follow.
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