The Feminism Project - Page 2

RoqEL22 · #11 07-23-2009, 05:36 PM

lol, okay I spotted one vantage point that you might have formed this opinion.
I posted a message that said " I feared fearing others". which was a typo to I feared placing fear into others. Is that where this "accusation" stems from?

BlueAngel · #12 07-23-2009, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RoqEL22

lol, okay I spotted one vantage point that you might have formed this opinion.
I posted a message that said " I feared fearing others". which was a typo to I feared placing fear into others. Is that where this "accusation" stems from?

I didn't make an accusation.

Milly · #13 07-28-2009, 03:12 PM

The role of men and women has been changing.

In my age group it's really "cool" if guys wear tight pants. Most of the guys I know that do that actually wear girl pants. Or at least most of them did (or still do) even though I'm sure that they now make "girlfriend jeans" for guys the way they make "boyfriend" jeans for girls.

When I was little I found it strange that girls were allowed to wear pants and skirts and dresses, and guy were only allowed to wear pants. I thought it was unfair. Then once my mom explained to me that boys don't wear those items, I got uncomfortable wearing pants. I was four years old when I folded up all my pants and shorts, and left them outside my moms room. This was, coincidentally, or maybe not so coincidently, the same time period I would only respond to "Snow White" and only wear skirts or dresses.

What I don't understand is the current assault on classic gender roles. Once women were scolded for not wanting to pursue housewifery, and now they are scolded for pursuing it. I'm not saying that it's the only or best option for a woman, I just believe that it should be a viable option.

The same is true of men. What was once thought of as manly and strong has morphed into something strange... this "metrosexuality" as it's called. It's rather confusing. And it's difficult to date someone who spends more time getting ready than you do haha

RoqEL22 · #14 07-28-2009, 08:05 PM

My point exactly my lady, thank you for the reply.

BlueAngel · #15 07-28-2009, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Milly

The role of men and women has been changing.

In my age group it's really "cool" if guys wear tight pants. Most of the guys I know that do that actually wear girl pants. Or at least most of them did (or still do) even though I'm sure that they now make "girlfriend jeans" for guys the way they make "boyfriend" jeans for girls.

When I was little I found it strange that girls were allowed to wear pants and skirts and dresses, and guy were only allowed to wear pants. I thought it was unfair. Then once my mom explained to me that boys don't wear those items, I got uncomfortable wearing pants. I was four years old when I folded up all my pants and shorts, and left them outside my moms room. This was, coincidentally, or maybe not so coincidently, the same time period I would only respond to "Snow White" and only wear skirts or dresses.

What I don't understand is the current assault on classic gender roles. Once women were scolded for not wanting to pursue housewifery, and now they are scolded for pursuing it. I'm not saying that it's the only or best option for a woman, I just believe that it should be a viable option.

The same is true of men. What was once thought of as manly and strong has morphed into something strange... this "metrosexuality" as it's called. It's rather confusing. And it's difficult to date someone who spends more time getting ready than you do haha

So, Milly, does your wardrobe at present only consist of dresses and/or skirts?

Milly · #16 07-29-2009, 01:56 PM

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So, Milly, does your wardrobe at present only consist of dresses and/or skirts?

I'd say about 75% of the time I wear skirts or dresses. Although I do consider myself to dress modestly (or at least I don't show a lot of skin). When I do wear shorts or pants, it's usually out of necessity. I sold both my cars over 5 years ago, so I bike, skateboard, or walk most places... and it does get pretty darn cold here in MN in the winter.

I no longer think shorts or pants are unbecoming on women, I gave that up a very long time ago. My "Snow White" phase lasted only a couple months. I did, however, go to Catholic schools growing up (despite my being an atheist) and wore a uniform that consisted of the typical plaid skirt, button up, and sweater. So, I am usually just more comfortable in skirts or dresses.

BlueAngel · #17 07-30-2009, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Milly

I'd say about 75% of the time I wear skirts or dresses. Although I do consider myself to dress modestly (or at least I don't show a lot of skin). When I do wear shorts or pants, it's usually out of necessity. I sold both my cars over 5 years ago, so I bike, skateboard, or walk most places... and it does get pretty darn cold here in MN in the winter.

I no longer think shorts or pants are unbecoming on women, I gave that up a very long time ago. My "Snow White" phase lasted only a couple months. I did, however, go to Catholic schools growing up (despite my being an atheist) and wore a uniform that consisted of the typical plaid skirt, button up, and sweater. So, I am usually just more comfortable in skirts or dresses.

I wear shorts/pants most of the time other than when my husband and I are attending parties, etc.

He finds me just as much a woman in either.

Just the same as I find him to be the man of my dreams whether he wears a suit, shorts, or pants.

Milly · #18 07-30-2009, 11:54 PM

Yes, I agree that pants/shorts can be/are feminine.

I no longer think shorts or pants are unbecoming on women, I gave that up a very long time ago. A really long time ago.

I personally just happen to be more comfortable in skirts and dresses.

Laokin · #19 10-06-2009, 01:16 PM

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I do not know if you all have noticed, but the idea of feminizing society is now in effect, as it has been for a long time. As I walk down the streets I see young folks my age, men to be exact, wearing tight pants and feminine looking clothing, not to say anything is wrong with it. Yet, when you start to see the very nature of males converting to the opposite pole, there is no doubt that men are losing their masculine orientation. Anyone have anything to add to this?

Ah, this is untrue. You are referring to the 'EMO' pop culture. It's just people conforming to something different just for the sake of being different. There are 10 manly men to every one of these emo boys. It's a fad, and it will pass just like all the ones previous to it.

Bell Bottoms aren't feminine? Please. That was a 70's thing, they are now called Goucho pants, woman only articles of clothing. I guess you imply that John Lennon was less of a man because he wore bell bottoms?

As for women wearing pants/shorts, it's called comfort. Just because they are of the opposite sex means they should be forced to wear skirts? Illogical.

Lets talk about Kilts for a second.

Kilts are a skirt for men, some of the most manly men (Scottish Warriors and Vikings) wore kilts. Dress attire has nothing to do with men or woman, but comfort and personal choice of the person wearing said article of clothing.

My point, it's entirely subjective.