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Old 11-05-2009, 07:06 AM
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>>I'm talking about the use of portable furnaces able to mould a connection between two blocks each weighing tons at the spot, as the ends of the metal part requires it to be moulded within both stone blocks itself. This would still be a puzzle for many 21st century engineers.

Provide more info on this. Where does it occur?

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Old 11-05-2009, 07:07 AM
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>>True. However, when the shades of grey are very similar a comparison is justified.

Grey means ambiguous. Hence unknowable, hence you cannot justify it.
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Old 11-05-2009, 08:06 AM
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BWAHAHAHAH! You are assuming ancient man could travel through space.
No I'm not. You're twisting my words (as you seem to do often). I was just making an analogy.

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>>I'm talking about the use of portable furnaces able to mould a connection between two blocks each weighing tons at the spot, as the ends of the metal part requires it to be moulded within both stone blocks itself. This would still be a puzzle for many 21st century engineers.

Provide more info on this. Where does it occur?
I'll have to look up the details. I saw footage of these blocks and the metal in between on some TV documentary but I don't remember the exact details.

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>>True. However, when the shades of grey are very similar a comparison is justified.

Grey means ambiguous. Hence unknowable, hence you cannot justify it.
In this case, "grey" implies that only some parameters are known. You can compare the parameters you DO have, leaving the other parameters open for interpretation/speculation/interpolation.
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Old 11-07-2009, 04:40 AM
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>>No I'm not. You're twisting my words (as you seem to do often). I was just making an analogy.

So you are saying ancient man didn't fly around in space ships now?

Well, we are in agreement with the evidence then.
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Old 11-07-2009, 04:45 AM
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>>In this case, "grey" implies that only some parameters are known. You can compare the parameters you DO have, leaving the other parameters open for interpretation/speculation/interpolation.

I gave an example of this correlation between the Tao and quantum physics and it wasn't very good. This was chosen by someone who DID read the book.
It would logical for you to entice me into reading the book if you gave me more startling quotes from the book.

I see faces in rusty cans. I suppose those are the faces of gods peeking at me? One looks like Jesus! Oh, it must be him! Grey means=bad evidence no matter how you slice it.

You haven't proven to me why you believe rather than wonder or suspect.
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Old 11-08-2009, 08:16 AM
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So you are saying ancient man didn't fly around in space ships now?
To my knowledge, there's no evidence they ever did. Although mythological records do seem to suggest the "Gods" were flying around in vehicles, this alone does not suffice as evidence.

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I gave an example of this correlation between the Tao and quantum physics and it wasn't very good. This was chosen by someone who DID read the book.
So? Just because someone did read a book, that does't mean he gives accurate information about it. You should know better.

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It would logical for you to entice me into reading the book if you gave me more startling quotes from the book.
I'll have to take a look. The book was recommended to me and I own a copy, but I thusfar haven't read it.

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You haven't proven to me why you believe rather than wonder or suspect.
I DON'T believe. I DO wonder and suspect. I just mix mainstream science with philosophy and controversial science, whereas you seem to stick to mainstream science.
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Old 11-09-2009, 04:50 AM
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I gave an example of this correlation between the Tao and quantum physics and it wasn't very good. This was chosen by someone who DID read the book.

So? Just because someone did read a book, that does't mean he gives accurate information about it. You should know better.


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It would logical for you to entice me into reading the book if you gave me more startling quotes from the book.

I'll have to take a look. The book was recommended to me and I own a copy, but I thusfar haven't read it.
OH. MY. GOD.

You haven't even read the book and you hold it up as fact? Sweet lord. And you think you have a better opinion of it than someone who has read it?


I think this alters my opinion of you for good now. I won't trust a word you say. Nor should anyone.

Christ, you should be apologising.
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Old 11-09-2009, 06:31 AM
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You haven't even read the book and you hold it up as fact? Sweet lord. And you think you have a better opinion of it than someone who has read it?
It was recommended to me by one of the wisest people I've ever met and he did read the book.

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I think this alters my opinion of you for good now. I won't trust a word you say. Nor should anyone.
I try to read as much as possible, but I can't read everything. You rely on the word of someone who read the book yet you consider my arguments invaluable because I do the same. Isn't that pretty hypocritical?!?

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Christ, you should be apologising.
What for?
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Old 11-09-2009, 07:30 AM
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A few other reviews of The Tao of Physics :

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"A brilliant best-seller. . . . Lucidly analyzes the tenets of Hinduism, Buddhism, and Taoism to show their striking parallels with the latest discoveries in cyclotrons."—New York Magazine
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"A pioneering book of real value and wide appeal."—Washington Post
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"Fritjof Capra, in The Tao of Physics , seeks . . . an integration of the mathematical world view of modern physics and the mystical visions of Buddha and Krishna. Where others have failed miserably in trying to unite these seemingly different world views, Capra, a high-energy theorist, has succeeded admirably. I strongly recommend the book to both layman and scientist."—V. N. Mansfield, Physics Today
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"I have been reading the book with amazement and the greatest interest, recommending it to everyone I meet, and as often as possible, in my lectures. I think [Capra has] done a magnificent and extremely important job."—Joseph Campbell
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Fritjof Capra's The Tao of Physics is a unique combination of inspiration and rationality, of spiritual vision and the spirit of scientific inquiry. Mystical poetry and scientific formulae easily meet, cross and merge into an organic whole in this book.
In Part one of the book Capra takes off from a turning point that modern new physics has arrived at, which is a recognition of consciousness. He proceeds to explore the various meeting points of modern scientific 'visions' with the ancient wisdom of Hinduism, Chinese thought, Zen and Buddhism in the second part. The final phase of the book easily shatters the age old dichotomy of matter and spirit promoted by Enlightenment thought and gives science a human face and spirituality a scientific explanation.
Capra effectively proves that a dichotomous view of the universe where spirit was seen outside the matter, more from a Newtonian angle, has led to insensitivity and exploitation at various levels of human life. To re-establish this contact, Capra's link is the Relativity Theory, which continue to inspire many a scientist even to this day. On reading these chapters in the last part of the book, the relativity theory and pages from the Yoga Vasishta or Yoga Sutras sound one and the same. The book reads like a formulaic transcription of the Yoga Sutras. But what makes the book different from an esoteric scientific treatise is that it speaks with a heart--in other words with a perfect balance between the left and right side of the brain. Conversely, Capra's style and language makes Modern Physics well within our reach and understanding.
The Tao of Physics is sheer experience. Capra also establishes that every invention in Science is like a Cosmic experience. The book in essence reveals the third eye of our scientific community. The book makes us wish if only our science text books in schools and colleges could provide us with this experience. —Sandhya Gopakumaran
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Old 11-10-2009, 04:32 AM
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It was recommended to me by one of the wisest people I've ever met and he did read the book.



I try to read as much as possible, but I can't read everything. You rely on the word of someone who read the book yet you consider my arguments invaluable because I do the same. Isn't that pretty hypocritical?!?



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>>You rely on the word of someone who read the book yet you consider my arguments invaluable because I do the same. Isn't that pretty hypocritical?!?


I based my evidence on an actual quote from the book. You can't even do that. But if me not reading the book means I cannot talk about it then why don't you, as someone who hasn't read the book either, not talk about it too?

>>It was recommended to me by one of the wisest people I've ever met and he did read the book.

Oh, wise, eh? Well that's convinced me. Apologise for wasting my time.
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