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Old 11-14-2009, 10:02 AM
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Why do you insist on discrediting and telling others what to do? No-one's stopping you from posting it elsewhere. I smell a paid troll.

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Old 11-14-2009, 10:22 AM
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Old 11-14-2009, 12:07 PM
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Sounds exciting, stompk. I was wondering if you were still around, since your post was from some time ago. To me the science speaks a lot and I don't need the document, but perhaps you are on to something big. You must have done some excellent detective work and maybe even some social engineering to get where you are and obtain that information.

I still have a question about contrails - maybe you can answer it for me.

In documentaries with interviews with pilots they always say the contrail never lasts more than about a minute in the best conditions. Are indefinite persistent contrails (>1-2 mins) made of ice and water a myth or do they happen? If they happen, I assume these trails would not expand to form clouds as stated to be impossible by NASA... but if the conditions were right, couldn't they blow around a little?

Either way, they are definitely spraying us, considering the evidence of strange patterns, trails starting and stopping, chemtrails vs. contrails in the same sky, unmarked military planes, HEPA filter samples, low-level trails in dry and hot conditions, etc.

I found a fun time lapse of the Eiffel Tower. Can you spot the chemtrails?

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Old 11-15-2009, 02:51 AM
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Documentaries seem to continually reinforce that contrails cannot persist longer than about 1 minute, so I'm going to assume anything much longer is not natural in any condition. This means the appleman chart can be used to predict a maximum contrail of about a minute (max persistence) and indefinite "truly persistent" and spreading contrails are an outright lie. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 11-15-2009, 09:56 AM
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Documentaries seem to continually reinforce that contrails cannot persist longer than about 1 minute, so I'm going to assume anything much longer is not natural in any condition. This means the appleman chart can be used to predict a maximum contrail of about a minute (max persistence) and indefinite "truly persistent" and spreading contrails are an outright lie. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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The Appleman Chart is explaining how "modified contrails" form. It has
nothing to do with "natural" contrail formation. Notice the Appleman chart
says consistent contrails will form in 0% RH. Impossible!

Have you ever seen how small contrails form off of jet fighters wing tips, when they are pulling high g,s? You'll seem them often when they take off from AC carriers.

Contrail formation has nothing to do with cold, but humidity, and pressure.

It's the same concept as clouds forming around mountain ranges. It's because the air is pushed up, when it flows over the mountain. The air is pressurized, creating a denser amount of moisture. That's why it snows in the mountains, not because of temp. The temps are dropped because the air moves faster over the mountains. Wind chill factor. That's why temperature inversions are possible, meaning it's warmer at the top of the mountain than in the valleys. Think about it. The top of the mountain is actually closer to the sun. It's the winds, that keep it colder, allowing the snow to stick around longer.

The short lived contrails are Liquid CO2 for supercooling the atmosphere. The long lived contrails are a concoction of silver-iodide, ammonia, urea, etc. The main reason is weather modification, the secondary being a sickening of the people. But, they do have a solution that will kill, which is being tested in the Ukraine right now.
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Old 11-16-2009, 04:58 AM
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It seems the appleman chart was made in the 50s and is outdated.

But I am still going to try and debunk it further. Although why I bother is beyond me. The idea that all aircraft are sabotaged to poison people is brilliantly ridiculous. It would just involve too many people, all across the globe, in every country.

Here you go, look. I posted a link to this thread on the James Randi forum. Aren't I kind?

Contrails - Appleman Chart? - JREF Forum

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Old 11-16-2009, 05:16 AM
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Old 11-16-2009, 06:24 AM
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>>The combined moisture from the jet exhaust and the atmosphere will never be enough for the mixture to produce a cloud.

Clearly a line taken out of context. It is not reffering to all contrails but to certain conditions. The chart says contrails do exist in certain conditions. NOT that all contrails are impossible.
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Old 11-16-2009, 06:34 AM
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Old 11-16-2009, 06:41 AM
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>>Contrail formation has nothing to do with cold, but humidity, and pressure.

So when I breathe out on a cold day and water vapour forms, that's a hologram? Or is my bad breath a chemtrail designed to keep the population down?
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