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Old 11-18-2009, 01:50 PM
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So, are you saying that ice supersaturated regions do not exist?
Without even looking at the science, I'd be willing to bet they don't happen in the middle of summer at low altitude in clear sky where chemtrails are often spotted and hence are completely irrelevant.

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Old 11-18-2009, 01:57 PM
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even in the summer, it gets down to -40 degrees at the altitude that most comercial jets fly. What evidence do you have regarding the altitudes of observed contrails?
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Old 11-18-2009, 02:00 PM
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even in the summer, it gets down to -40 degrees at the altitude that most comercial jets fly. What evidence do you have regarding the altitudes of observed contrails?
Did you forget about the humidity and the fact that contrails do not persist longer than a minute in the best conditions? What about the fact that spraying is often caught beneath low-level clouds at far below "flight altitude". Your argument is laughable. I honestly don't care if I convince you of anything -- In fact, I'm sure it's impossible considering your obvious line of work.
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Old 11-18-2009, 02:01 PM
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Even in the summer ice supersaturated reions form.

http://www.pa.op.dlr.de/issr/Cha3.html

granted, they are thicker in the winter, but they still exist in the summer.
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Old 11-18-2009, 02:14 PM
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Did you forget about the humidity .
Do you understand what the word "supersaturation" means?

it means that the relative humidity is GREATER THAN 100%.

Do you understand that there is a significant difference between relative humidity with respect to water and relative humidity with respect to ice?
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Old 11-18-2009, 02:15 PM
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What about the fact that spraying is often caught beneath low-level clouds at far below "flight altitude".
Oh. B.S.

I'm calling you out on this. B.S. pure and simple.
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Old 11-18-2009, 02:18 PM
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You appear to be incapable of looking at tens of thousands of eye-witness accounts found around the net and in extensive documentaries (Top of this page). Trails starting and stopping, forming tell-tale patterns, government silence and refusal to identify samples, media blackout, etc etc. All you have to do is look up. Where there was once blue sky there is now a white haze. Hundreds of respected journalists, researchers, scientists, veterans and pilots are claiming something is wrong. Only a fool would believe this decade-old phenomenon that happens in all temperatures at all altitudes in all humidity levels is caused solely by ice supersaturation, IF contrails can even form clouds in those conditions at all (wouldn't it still need more particulate matter to act as condensation nuclei to attract water vapour?). Your point is irrelevant considering the ample evidence showing there is far more to it.
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Old 11-18-2009, 03:16 PM
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Document include section on barium flouride, hydrogen cyanide, and lithium phosphate.
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Old 11-18-2009, 03:41 PM
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Looks good, stompk. Now what? Contact a high-profile freedom-loving lawyer? You should make copies... Post it everywhere around the net, from an anonymous wifi or tor anonymized browser. Or just give it to several people you think you can trust... Just in case
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Old 11-18-2009, 04:07 PM
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Looks good, stompk. Now what? Contact a high-profile freedom-loving lawyer? You should make copies... Post it everywhere around the net, from an anonymous wifi or tor anonymized browser. Or just give it to several people you think you can trust... Just in case
Truther, I plan to make this into pdf. Much of the document is boring, with exercises. But much of it is very important to those of us who understand the potential environmental catastrophic consequences of the US Air Force "Owning the Weather". I used up a roll of nickels making copies at the library today.

It's very technical, and won't appeal to those who need pictures of planes making chemtrails, but yes, it has legal potential. Once I have a good copy, I will distribute it freely to all.

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