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Old 11-25-2009, 04:20 AM
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Not interested in wasting time with your misleading posts.
Seek treatment for your condition.

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Old 11-26-2009, 10:19 AM
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I just want to say that this forum is interesting
Thanks, Stunaraid.

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who also think so and what you especially like?
Could you rephrase that?

Where do you live? Roughly, that is. LOL!

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Old 11-28-2009, 08:27 AM
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Here is some more subliminal chemtrail programming.

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Old 11-29-2009, 12:23 PM
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Here is some more subliminal chemtrail programming.
A misuse of both the words "subliminal" (meaning so brief as to go unrecorded by the conscious brain processes) and "programming" (the entering of an activity sequence).
And also an attempt to create a slanderous myth. Par for the course for the lowest of the paronoid sleaze-world.
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Old 11-30-2009, 05:44 AM
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I proclaim this thread well and truly debunked. Not a spot of credible bunk to be found.
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Old 12-01-2009, 07:26 AM
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I proclaim this thread well and truly debunked. Not a spot of credible bunk to be found.
As long as the chemtrails keep happening, this thread will never be debunked.

What we have done is show proof. The rest rests on the shoulders of the individual.

What have you done for your neighbor lately?

TrutherD and I have taken hours upon hours of our time researching this to understand the chemicals used, routes taken, planes used, etc.

It's top secret, so of course it's going to be hard to prove. But the truth of something this big cannot be hidden forever.

Climategate, is the result of the Chemtrail coverup, and that truth will soon become apparent.
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Old 12-01-2009, 10:07 AM
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As long as the chemtrails keep happening, this thread will never be debunked. What we have done is show proof.
Yes. You PROVED the existence of persistant contrails. Thanks lads, but we knew already.

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The rest rests on the shoulders of the individual. What have you done for your neighbor lately? TrutherD and I have taken hours upon hours of our time researching this to understand
But you have NO understanding. You cannot understand your own confirmation bias for a start. Let alone the behaviour of the atmosphere. Or how an aircraft works.

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the chemicals used, routes taken, planes used, etc. It's top secret, so of course it's going to be hard to prove. But the truth of something this big cannot be hidden forever. Climategate, is the result of the Chemtrail coverup, and that truth will soon become apparent.
Yes sirree, roll up, roll up. The truth as these lads see it will all be revealed to you shortly.

HOW TO RUN A CONTRAIL SCARE FOR FUN AND PROFIT just down the page titled "Here" a while. Jay Reynold's original article, with no revisions required. You can't beat the original...

Here JazzRoc vs “Chemtrails”

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Old 12-02-2009, 08:09 AM
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Which points haven't been tackled by Jazzroc? Why do you still believe? Even if Jazzroc only shakes your belief in the evidence then that surely must tell you something.

The guy who started this thread has been shown to not understand science. He ASKED for us to point out his errors. We did.
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Old 12-03-2009, 06:56 AM
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Which points haven't been tackled by Jazzroc? Why do you still believe? Even if Jazzroc only shakes your belief in the evidence then that surely must tell you something.

The guy who started this thread has been shown to not understand science. He ASKED for us to point out his errors. We did.
Why is it that one can see your breath at around 20f and the appleman chart says it
needs to be -45f for a contrail to form?

If human breathing and jet exhaust are just water vapor, please explain the difference.
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Old 12-03-2009, 08:13 AM
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Why is it that one can see your breath at around 20f and the appleman chart says it needs to be -45f for a contrail to form? If human breathing and jet exhaust are just water vapor, please explain the difference.
The difference is in the temperature of the water vapor emitter in each case, and the temperatures in each case of the ambient conditions.

Turbojet exhaust water vapor at 2000 deg F is an IGNITION source. It's arriving into air at -40 deg F, and freezing into microscopically-fine ice crystals which will either remain or evaporate depending whether the ambient air is "wet" or "dry" (the degree to which it is saturated). Contrails have been known to form at warmer temperatures than -45, so the Appleman Chart is somewhat rough and ready.

Water vapor will condense out of one's breath at 20 deg F. But the water droplets which are formed evaporate again because your ambient air at 20 deg F was relatively warm, and much less humid than it was a moment before, when it was in amongst your 100% humid exhalation, and water evaporates more easily in just such conditions. It's different at the North and the South Pole. The temperatures are low enough there to freeze out nearly all the water - permanently.

Evaporation is an equilibrative process. At any point in time, there are roughly as many water molecules evaporating as condensing. The humid column of your exhaled air rises from the water droplet cloud which condensed from it, leaving the droplet cloud at the mercy of the drier ambient air. Pfft.

Leaving your personal aerosols floating as fine particulate matter... ...it's those you need to worry about, believe me.

The unusual properties of water merit years of study.

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