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Old 12-29-2009, 03:25 PM
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Right, thats why you have a thread full of people asking why you are so crazy, and I do not.
Ah, perhaps it's because I've written about my abuse as a victim/survivor of MKULTRA/Project Monarch and, like I said, those people would, for the most part, be perpetrators.

How 'bout you try it and let's see if you don't receive the same.

Good thing I'm perfectly normal, eh and I have plenty of people who can attest to that fact.

Not that it's needed, but.!.!

Just because one was abused by the US government/military/CIA and forced as a child to engage in Mafia/CIA pornography; experimented on at military bases and used as a "sex slave" in the music industry and for politicians and government leaders abroad does not make me or anyone else who was subjected to this grotesque abuse crazy.

It makes the PERPETRATORS crazy.

Learn to recognize the difference.

Otherwise, you sound crazy.

But, we already knew that.


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Old 12-29-2009, 03:30 PM
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You still dont get it? Sad. As I said, I was poking fun at your immature derision of profits, as if there is something inherently evil about operating a business. I would think you would know better, since you are a small business owner too.

BTW, what part of that simply written Autism article didnt make sense to you? I will be happy to elucidate things for you if you need.
You never said previously what you just posted, so, the words, "AS I SAID," are another lie by Eire.

No one said there was anything inherently evil about operating a business.

We were discussing this as it pertains to the scientific community and CURES for diseases.

Please try to keep up.

You aren't capable of elucidating anything for anyone.

I wasn't referring to the study itself.

I was referring to information that you supply to this forum that is irrelevant, many times, to the topic at hand especially as it relates to the topic of Autism.

You still don't get it.

SAD.

I will be happy to elucidate things for you if need be since you apparently have a reading comprehension problem.

But, on the other hand.

I have better things to do.

I'm beginning to think that Eire is a pathological liar.

P.S. Kindly keep the forum informed as to the double and triple bind study that you and TrueCures are conducting. We are very interested to learn of the results. Do you realize that you appear to others to be delusional? You might want to check into this. I'm not saying your're crazy, just pointing out the fact that you apparently believe yourself to be something that you are not.

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Old 12-29-2009, 10:01 PM
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What exactly have I posted that was irrelevant to the Autism debate? Be specific, if you can.
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Old 12-29-2009, 10:07 PM
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What exactly have I posted that was irrelevant to the Autism debate? Be specific, if you can.
I can and have already been specific.

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Old 12-30-2009, 07:02 PM
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So, I take it you dont accept the evidience that autism rates were the same thirty years ago, it is just improvements to diagnosis that are leading to the perceived rate increase. Read the article again before you reply.
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So, I take it you dont accept the evidience that autism rates were the same thirty years ago, it is just improvements to diagnosis that are leading to the perceived rate increase. Read the article again before you reply.
Your statement doesn't make any sense and it is WRONG, as well.

A rate increase cannot be perceived.

A rate increase either exists or it doesn't.

It cannot be a preception.
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Do you really need me to explain this to you? Say the actual, absolute rate of something is 1 in 150. However, because it is not well understood the rate at which it is recognized is 1 in 300. The "perceived rate" would be 1 in 300, while the absolute is still 1 in 150. If it suddenly gets recognized better due to improvements in diagnoses, the "perceived rate" may increase to 1 in 200. Does this mean that the rate has increased? No. It is still 1 in 150, but the perception will be that it increased. Is that so hard?
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Do you really need me to explain this to you? Say the actual, absolute rate of something is 1 in 150. However, because it is not well understood the rate at which it is recognized is 1 in 300. The "perceived rate" would be 1 in 300, while the absolute is still 1 in 150. If it suddenly gets recognized better due to improvements in diagnoses, the "perceived rate" may increase to 1 in 200. Does this mean that the rate has increased? No. It is still 1 in 150, but the perception will be that it increased. Is that so hard?
No.

You don't need to explain it.
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Old 01-06-2010, 11:48 PM
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Good. I'm glad, but it begs the question why you posted like you didn't understand it....anyway....

Autism 'Clusters' Linked To Parents' Education

by Jon Hamilton


January 6, 2010 Clusters of children diagnosed with autism tend to occur in places where parents are older, more educated, and white, according to a study by researchers at the University of California, Davis.
The study found no link to local pollution or chemical exposures which some consumer groups have cited as possible causes of autism clusters.
The results suggest that areas in California with apparently high rates of autism spectrum disorders are probably just places where parents are more likely to obtain a diagnosis for their child, the researchers say.
"It doesn't necessarily mean that higher education causes autism," says Irva Hertz-Picciotto, one of the study's authors and a researcher at the UC Davis MIND Institute. "It gets you the diagnosis more frequently."
Enlarge 2010 UC RegentsAutism "cluster" found in North Los Angeles County. Autism rates here were roughly double that of surrounding areas.


2010 UC RegentsAutism "cluster" found in North Los Angeles County. Autism rates here were roughly double that of surrounding areas.


The UC Davis study looked at the geographic distribution of about 10,000 children who were born in California from 1996 through 2000 and later diagnosed with an autism spectrum disorder.
A cluster was defined as a community in which the proportion of children diagnosed with autism was at least 70 percent higher than in surrounding areas.
The study found that differences in parents' age, education and ethnicity explained the cluster most of the time.
Higher Education, More Diagnosis
It doesn't necessarily mean that higher education causes autism. It gets you the diagnosis more frequently.

- Irva Hertz-Picciotto

For example, it found that children of parents who finished college were at least four times more likely to be diagnosed than children of parents who didn't finish high school.
Children were also more likely to be diagnosed if they were born in a community near a regional service center for people with autism.
Hispanic parents were underrepresented in all 10 of the clusters, according to the study. That could be because some parents are reluctant to seek help from a state agency if they have a member of the family who is undocumented, Hertz-Picciotto says.
No Evidence Of Environmental Risk
The study may be most interesting because it did not find any environmental explanation for higher autism rates, says Steven Novella, a neurologist at Yale University.
"You can't prove a negative," Novella says. But the results of this and other studies suggest that "if there are environmental factors, they're small," he says.
The California results also show how widely autism diagnosis rates can vary from place to place, Novella says. In some areas of the state, children were four times as likely to be diagnosed as in other areas.
That suggests that in many areas there are still a huge number of children with autism spectrum disorders who are slipping through the cracks, Novella says.
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I was being sarcastic when I said I don't need you to explain it.

Any explanations you provide to your original posts are, most times, about as useless as the original post itself.
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