Does 9/11 Prove US Run by the Mafia?

[galexander]

Originally Posted by BlueAngel

The Mafia sells drugs for the CIA and the CIA uses the dirty money to fund their black operations.

The CIA protects the Mafia to this end and for this benefit.

The CIA uses Mafia hit men.

Harsh drug laws are in place to make it appear that our government is looking out for the benefit of the people, but, in fact, they're locking people up for the most ridiculous drug charges and not busting the REAL DRUG PUSHERS who would be the CIA and the Mafia and all those who work for them and others, as well.

So the CIA is using drugs money to fund its black operations?

It does this because the black operations are so illegal the CIA could not obtain legitimate government funding for them.

But that is not the same thing as saying the Mafia are working for the CIA. Its completely different.

Its like saying because the CIA sometimes uses the illegal arms trade to fund its black operations all illegal gun runners are therefore working for the CIA.

The logic is faulty.

[BlueAngel]

Originally Posted by galexander

So the CIA is using drugs money to fund its black operations?

It does this because the black operations are so illegal the CIA could not obtain legitimate government funding for them.

But that is not the same thing as saying the Mafia are working for the CIA. Its completely different.

Its like saying because the CIA sometimes uses the illegal arms trade to fund its black operations all illegal gun runners are therefore working for the CIA.

The logic is faulty.

Exactly.

There is an element within the CIA that is considered "rogue" and, for this reason, they cannot obtain legitimate government funding for their black operations because these operations are illegal and immoral.

They are not a part of the government, if you will.

Completely separate.

Hence, the word, "rogue."

The MAFIA runs drugs for the CIA and this helps to fund the "rogue" CIA's black operations not to mention their profits from protecting the MAFIA and their child pornography industry and otherwise.

Therefore, the MAFIA works for the CIA and the CIA protects the MAFIA and the drug lords.

When I say this, I am not inferring that every single person who is a Mafioso works for the CIA.

I am saying that your assertion that 911 proves the US is run by the Mafia is based upon faulty logic.

[galexander]

Originally Posted by BlueAngel

Exactly.

There is an element within the CIA that is considered "rogue" and, for this reason, they cannot obtain legitimate government funding for their black operations because these operations are illegal and immoral.

They are not a part of the government, if you will.

Completely separate.

Hence, the word, "rogue."

The MAFIA runs drugs for the CIA and this helps to fund the "rogue" CIA's black operations not to mention their profits from protecting the MAFIA and their child pornography industry and otherwise.

Therefore, the MAFIA works for the CIA and the CIA protects the MAFIA and the drug lords.

When I say this, I am not inferring that every single person who is a Mafioso works for the CIA.

I am saying that your assertion that 911 proves the US is run by the Mafia is based upon faulty logic.

I am far happier with this last scenario as you have defined it.

However I appreciate these questions may seem a bit academic at times.

I am also sure that the true situation is most likely in need of further study.

Unfortunately I feel your last comment is simply bickering:

I am saying that your assertion that 911 proves the US is run by the Mafia is based upon faulty logic.

Of course following your own brand of logic 9/11 would prove that the US is not run by the Mafia BUT BY THE CIA!!!!!!

[BlueAngel]

Originally Posted by galexander

I am far happier with this last scenario as you have defined it.

However I appreciate these questions may seem a bit academic at times.

I am also sure that the true situation is most likely in need of further study.

Unfortunately I feel your last comment is simply bickering:



Of course following your own brand of logic 9/11 would prove that the US is not run by the Mafia BUT BY THE CIA!!!!!!

You said the same, however, I didn't accuse you of bickering.



I didn't suggest that 911 proves that the US is run by the CIA.

I was simply commenting on your suggestion that the US is run by the Mafia.

Making my point that the Mafia works for the CIA.

911 involved many different elements.

The CIA being one of them.

[galexander]

Originally Posted by BlueAngel

You said the same, however, I didn't accuse you of bickering.



I didn't suggest that 911 proves that the US is run by the CIA.

I was simply commenting on your suggestion that the US is run by the Mafia.

Making my point that the Mafia works for the CIA.

911 involved many different elements.

The CIA being one of them.

Okay. So assuming that the Mafia did work for the CIA, what interest has the CIA in drug pushing, prostitution, extortion, illegal gambling?

Presumably they are only interested in the money, to fund their 'black ops'.

But how extensive are these black ops exactly?

They must be pretty extensive in order to spend the 100's of billions of dollars the Mafia must be worth in the US.

What I am suggesting, and is a situation which is completely different from your own suggestion, is that the politics of the CIA have been perverted by both Nazi and Mafia influence.

The CIA was founded after WWII and certain Nazi intelligence operatives were central to the organisation's shaping.

Could this explain the CIA's virulent anti-communism?

Also communist China's banning of opium at the end of the 1950's having been the single biggest producer, appears to have set off the US's South East Asia anti-communist crusade.

In the real world, I claim, there is never one single answer that explains absolutely everything. What is actually the case are a number of influences coming together and moulding the subject under discussion.

[BlueAngel]

Originally Posted by galexander

Okay. So assuming that the Mafia did work for the CIA, what interest has the CIA in drug pushing, prostitution, extortion, illegal gambling?

Presumably they are only interested in the money, to fund their 'black ops'.

But how extensive are these black ops exactly?

They must be pretty extensive in order to spend the 100's of billions of dollars the Mafia must be worth in the US.

What I am suggesting, and is a situation which is completely different from your own suggestion, is that the politics of the CIA have been perverted by both Nazi and Mafia influence.

The CIA was founded after WWII and certain Nazi intelligence operatives were central to the organisation's shaping.

Could this explain the CIA's virulent anti-communism?

Also communist China's banning of opium at the end of the 1950's having been the single biggest producer, appears to have set off the US's South East Asia anti-communist crusade.

In the real world, I claim, there is never one single answer that explains absolutely everything. What is actually the case are a number of influences coming together and moulding the subject under discussion.

The black operations of the CIA are quite extensive.

Funding and training terrorists, etc.

The CIA wasn't perverted by Nazi and Mafia influence.

The CIA gave safe-haven to Nazi scientists in America after WWII of their own free will.

It had nothing to do with the Nazi's perverting them.

The CIA brought Nazi "war criminals" to America and sold them to the public as "rocket scientists."

The CIA was interested in their "mind control" knowledge as evidenced by programs that the CIA instituted such as Bluebird; MKULTRA; Project Monarch, etc. after the end of WWII when they employed these Nazi scientists to continue their research on American citizens in institutions, prisons, orphanages, etc.

The Mafia didn't influence the CIA, either.

The CIA protects the Mafia in order to receive compensation from their lucrative pornography and illegal drug business as well as having access to their hit men.

Nice talking to you gale.

[galexander]

Originally Posted by BlueAngel

The CIA gave safe-haven to Nazi scientists in America after WWII of their own free will.

It had nothing to do with the Nazi's perverting them.

Why are you so quick to give the Nazi scientists a clean bill of health but not the CIA?

Is it because scientists have the reputation of being reliable, cold sober-minded people?

And why do you assume the Mafia aren't able to corrupt the CIA? Presumably they aren't clever enough?

You don't have to be that clever or even that stupid to offer or accept a bribe.

[BlueAngel]

Originally Posted by galexander

Why are you so quick to give the Nazi scientists a clean bill of health but not the CIA?

Is it because scientists have the reputation of being reliable, cold sober-minded people?

And why do you assume the Mafia aren't able to corrupt the CIA? Presumably they aren't clever enough?

You don't have to be that clever or even that stupid to offer or accept a bribe.

Sorry, but I've never given the Nazi's a clean bill of health and I have no clue why you would think that I have.

The Mafia and the CIA are equally corrupt.

They don't need one or the other to aid in their corruption.

[galexander]

I thought it worth adding that 50% of the 100 of billions organised crime earns each year is paid as bribes to officials.

Wherever their is organised crime there is corruption. They go together like hand and glove.

[kerry]

9/11 prooves islam is created by a murderor who kills all and any that dont accept his sick doctering. the only reason islam exists is because the ones that refused it are dead. mohomo and company picked on the wrong ones this time