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Old 03-22-2010, 02:48 PM
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how much of to a lesser extent. about 2 or 3 killd a day maybe..
spain had terror attacks.. the UK had terror attacks.. eussia had terror attacks... israel..every day... india... china had terror attacks.. while the war on terror continues.. and there will be more terror attacks.. everyones afrade to fly.. what ver caused wars in the past is not like this war on terror.. islamic terrorist started it to spred islam.. they are alone and the only country that suports them is there own.. how much is 2 killd a day in all the countrys agenst terror.. per year..
How much of to a lesser extent?...

Would be in accordance to the scope of the activity.

World-wide activity (the lack of)
compared to - a restricted area - in the world. (present somewhere)

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Old 03-22-2010, 05:14 PM
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You appear to be "remorsefull", for some reason.

Wishing somehow better for......
but where is the reality of it?

Where is, burying oneself, in some kind of dreamworld?

One can do, what one itself, can do.
There is no other guy, to wait on.
True. But I must wonder, if 1) we all value our lives, 2) value the lives of our children and 3) want to enjoy life to the fullest, do we work so damn hard to make it Hell? Look, we got earthquakes, hurricanes, tsunamis, forest fires, tornados, car accidents, e.t.c, e.t.c- things we CAN NOT control. But we CAN control slaughtering each other like some kind of insane psychopath. I do not believe we are "fated" to destroy each other. It is a decision WE make-all of us, to a point.
If the next time some bonehead wanted a war we ALL told him to go "f**k" hi or herself there would be NO WAR. A finger must pull a trigger to shoot a gun. The finger can NOT do it on it's own-WE each must decide wether to pull the trigger or NOT to pull the trigger.
What must happend before we realize we can NOT keep killing each other this way? A nuclear holocaust that exterminates ALL LIFE?!?! No, that is insane..but if we keep on the way things are it WILL HAPPEN EVENTUALLY INSANE OR NOT!
Let us be the LAST GENERATION to bear this evil. Encourage your sons NOT to sing up for the military, NOT to sing up for Selective Services aqnd NOT to vote for some g**damn moron who has a hard on for death and carnage.
War is a form of slavery for men. All men should refuse to be a war slave (LITERALLY) for those in power and the moneyed interest. ALL MEN! All mothers should discourage their sons from glamorizing war and violence. We must stop treating our boys and young men like DISPOSABLE TRASH! We are humans, godd**n it, not throwaway robots to be busted, smashed and killed for others!
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Old 03-22-2010, 05:39 PM
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True. But I must wonder, if 1) we all value our lives, 2) value the lives of our children and 3) want to enjoy life to the fullest, do we work so damn hard to make it Hell? Look, we got earthquakes, hurricanes, tsunamis, forest fires, tornados, car accidents, e.t.c, e.t.c- things we CAN NOT control. But we CAN control slaughtering each other like some kind of insane psychopath. I do not believe we are "fated" to destroy each other. It is a decision WE make-all of us, to a point.

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Chances are, life is not "valued" to any "real extent". Any value to life,
would appear to come up "shallow", in our self. How deep can it be taken?

No doubt, life is saught to be enjoyed as much as one can.

Is unlikely that we are "fated" to destroy each other;
however, we could very well be "fated" to survive against each other.
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Old 03-22-2010, 05:52 PM
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If the next time some bonehead wanted a war we ALL told him to go "f**k" hi or herself there would be NO WAR. A finger must pull a trigger to shoot a gun. The finger can NOT do it on it's own-WE each must decide wether to pull the trigger or NOT to pull the trigger.
What must happend before we realize we can NOT keep killing each other this way? A nuclear holocaust that exterminates ALL LIFE?!?! No, that is insane..but if we keep on the way things are it WILL HAPPEN EVENTUALLY INSANE OR NOT!

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How likely is it, that a war could be, without our willingness to go to war?
Before going to war, we would have to, "want" to go to war.

In WWII, prior to the bombing of Pearl Harbor, the Americans, were not
interested in going to war, and were not involved in the war.
After the bombing of Pearl Harbor, the Americans, wanted to go to war.

Anihilation of one another, would occur from, neither side, going to lose.
Not "really" insane. Depends where the line is drawn. (?)
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Old 03-22-2010, 06:06 PM
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Let us be the LAST GENERATION to bear this evil. Encourage your sons NOT to sing up for the military, NOT to sing up for Selective Services aqnd NOT to vote for some g**damn moron who has a hard on for death and carnage.
War is a form of slavery for men. All men should refuse to be a war slave (LITERALLY) for those in power and the moneyed interest. ALL MEN! All mothers should discourage their sons from glamorizing war and violence. We must stop treating our boys and young men like DISPOSABLE TRASH! We are humans, godd**n it, not throwaway robots to be busted, smashed and killed for others!
The only way - we do things - for others - is by - made to do so.
Nobody - has to make us - do things - for ourselves.

If we can't be made to do anothers' bidding, where will we do, their bidding?
Is unlikely, that "we", could be made to go to war, against our will.
We would have to be, more for it, than not.
If we are for it, where are we - against it?
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Old 03-24-2010, 06:16 PM
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its not only the bone heads in america there everywhere. i dont know where WE THE PEOPLE CAME FROM.. correction.. i dont know where WE THE PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM.. but bwe must not forget.. even if there was no bone heads and everything was ok. there is allways some one with no other good reason to start a war then just out of hate.. like iran.. the president of iran whats his name...ahamagingajig... he just hates jews period and is building up nukes to use on them and then the usa because we the people defrnd israel.. first.. we the people should have the option to say...we dont like what the president is doing its wrong.. and have the right to pitition.
do we have that right now?.. if we do what happend to it.. the things that vare being right now is trying to stop ahanadingajig from building nukes.. and giving aid to israel to protect themselves. the thing that is wrong eight now is if we have the right to pitition we are not doing it. and if this option dont exist then the other thing that is wrong now is after the president is elected thats it. we have no more control. we only have control who gets elected. how many times was a president elected and never did what was promesed?..the only sure cure for war is us we the people. unless its a attack like 9/11 then a war is justified.. but a war is not justified when politics on two sides of the fence dont think of we the people that stop a bullet in there suport.
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Old 04-03-2010, 07:01 PM
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i will never have kids
so they can grow out of innocents and learn how to hate.. learn how to lie.. learn how to hurt another.. they all grow and learn these things no mater what you do. they are the real innocents exposed to the world. this way they will never be lied to. no one will ever hurt them.. no one will hate them..
this world is not fit for children. and not safe. every day a child is missing. and when there adults.. every day they lie. every day they go to a war just to be killd. every day they look for a job. get a devorce.. loose custody of there kids. loose there homes.. watch there parrents die.. no.. they will never suffer these things. beter off they stay in gods eys.
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Old 04-04-2010, 10:00 AM
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