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Old 05-11-2010, 05:13 AM
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NETUREI KARTA HAS A SOLUTION TO THE MIDDLE-EAST PROBLEM

The world has suffered for decades from the unsolvable "Middle East and Palestine issue". Why hasn't anyone managed to solve the problem yet?

The root of the problem: The Palestinians want back the land that was robbed from them in 1948.The Israelis do not want to return it, claiming that it was "lawfully granted to them by the United Nations".

The existence of a "Jewish State" is a historical mistake, and it is an injustice that increasing numbers of people are no longer willing to accept. The Zionist "government" has forfeited its right to exist.

There is actually no longer a state, but only a "problem". An unsolvable Middle East problem, which threatens the entire world with destruction. The danger resulting from this problem may lead to the greatest catastrophe in human history, if we do not intervene.

The problem can only be solved peacefully and permanently, in our opinion, through the following simple steps:

1) The State of "Israel" must be dissolved. The UN decision of 1947 to partition Palestine and create the State of Israel must be recognized as a mistake, and undone.

2) The Palestinian people must take full sovereignty over the entire land of Palestine.

3) Jews who already live in Palestine may remain in the country under Palestinian rule, and may request that the Palestinians grant them equal citizenship.

4) Implementation: The UN should prepare laws that regulate the execution of the above process so that it should be as equitable, humane and painless as possible. A sufficiently long time must be allotted for the process to take place.

We have reached the point at which Jews and Arabs seem to have in common only their pent-up hatred against each other and longing for revenge. But they must try from now on to live together in mutual respect.

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This solution seems, at first glance, revolutionary, sensational, perhaps even utopian. But it is the only solution that affords a real prospect of success and a way out of this otherwise insolvable crisis.┬ All other "plans" and "solutions" lead nowhere.

Let's look at the exceptional advantages that will be achieved by following the above plan:

1. The continuing threats posed to the world from the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, Iran's nuclear threat, Israel's nuclear threat, Israel's threat to bomb Iran and more will be removed from the world.

2. The oppression of the Palestinian people at the hands of the "State of Israel" will come to an end. Human dignity and livelihood will be restored to them once again.

3. The global threat of rising anti-Semitism, wanted and coldly calculated by the Zionists from their inception, will come to an end, since its main cause is the atrocities currently perpetrated by the Zionists against their Arab "subjects".

4. The astronomical sums spent by the U.S. and other countries each year to support and arm the Israeli state will become available for use to implement peace in the region.

5. Many countries, most notably the U.S., will become free from the powerful Zionist Lobby. These countries will be free to make their own decisions as to what best serves their interests, without having to depend on the goodwill and consent of the lobby.

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The political background and motivation of this plan is simple, logical, and self-evident. But even from the religious Jewish perspective, this plan is logical and compelling. In fact, from this perspective no other solution is possible or conceivable.

Consider the following remarks on religious Jewish thought:

Religious Judaism and the Land of Israel

Two thousand years ago, the Jews were sent into exile by God's decree, where they must remain until they are redeemed by God, as He has assured them through the prophets. The idea of a return to the country prematurely, without divine redemption, is wrong. In view of this, the Land of Israel belongs to those who have lived there for hundreds of years: the Palestinians.

The idea of a premature return was first conceived of by the Zionists, who at the beginning were a small Godless group, completely rejected by mainstream Jewry. They forced their plan upon the Jewish world through years of political maneuvering. Their slogan was that the Jewish people would finally stop waiting for divine salvation. "It is now time to take our destiny into our own hands," they said. "We must forget our past; we must leave behind the Divine message and the ancient role of the Jewish people in the world. Israel, the people of the Bible, must be transformed into a secular nation."

The majority of the Jewish people resisted this idea vehemently and wanted to know nothing of the Zionists' solution and their Zionist state. Thus Zionism went forward in the face of the strong opposition of the vast majority of Jews.

Anti-Semitism and the Holocaust

The level of anti-Semitism in the world has now reached such proportions as we have known only in the years immediately before the outbreak of World War II. It is fueled by the Zionist atrocities against the Palestinian population. Eighty years ago, anti-Semitism was instigated and fanned by the Zionists. They cleverly organized defamation campaigns against the Jews of Europe, with the aim of causing the ground to burn under their feet, so that they should feel the need to flee and take refuge in the new "Jewish State ".┬ It worked then, and it works again today.

We look at today's Zionist activity in consternation, yet the Zionists tell the world that it is a duty and an honor to support their movement in any way. Whoever is negligent in this duty or, worse yet, exposes something about the Zionists, is branded an 'anti-Semite'.

For this purpose, the Zionists have built a global lobby which, especially armed with the Holocaust card, is able to stifle any attempted criticism of Israel.

How the "Israeli state" was Founded

After the great destruction of the Jews in Europe, the Jews were rootless and bleeding. For the most part, they succumbed to the thoughts and plans of the Zionists and willingly followed them into their so-called Promised Land. Only a small part, in particular the faithfully religious affiliated Jews, did not follow and have remained to this day bitter enemies of their idea and their state.

The international community, out of compassion and a sense of duty, perhaps even a sense of guilt, agreed to the idea of a refuge and permanent homeland for the broken and uprooted Jewish people. For this the international community deserves recognition, praise and gratitude.

The idea to use Palestine for this homeland seemed right and logical at the time, and was implemented in the historic UN decision of 1947. But this decision brought with it an equally historic injustice: the country was simply robbed from the Palestinian residents, who had been there over a thousand years. They abandoned their homes, and Jews settled there instead. The "State of Israel" was born!
Wrongly. And wrongly, it is still standing today, after over 60 years.

The Turning Point

The time has come when the "Zionist redemption" has suffered shipwreck, and the historical error of the Jewish people and the world community must be reversed. The former global enthusiasm about the creation of the "Jewish State" is no longer there. It has dissolved into thin air. The dream has become a nightmare.

More and more people feel unease and opposition to the continued atrocities of the Zionist movement, today "the State of Israel." The truth - that "anti-Zionism" does not equal "anti-Semitism" - is beginning to surface.

Zionism is not Judaism, and Judaism is not Zionism.

On the contrary, the two concepts stand in stark contrast to each other! The Zionists, now in the dress of the "State of Israel", are not entitled to represent the Jewish people. Nobody has assigned them to this role; they have taken it on their own. Today, fewer and fewer people believe in this fiction. More and more people understand that the whole Middle East, thanks to the existence of the State of Israel, has become one big explosive powder keg, which can ignite at any time and plunge the entire world into the abyss. At the same time people are also beginning to understand, that by dissolving this State that does not belong in this region at all, the situation in the Middle East will finally stabilize.

This solution should actually be undertaken by the Jews who live there themselves, once they understand that it is a sin to break loose from a divinely-imposed exile, and that the way to repent of that sin is to go back to living in exile. However, the Israeli population is far from coming to such a recognition. The majority of the population is firmly rooted in fanatically-held beliefs that they live in the utopia of "redemption", and that they have returned to the land of their fathers.

Meanwhile, however, their state represents a quickly growing threat in its region of the world, threatening┬ to plunge the world into an inferno.

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That our solution is, for the most part, "religiously motivated" is not surprising: Whether we want to admit it or not, the people of Israel since time immemorial have been the people of God and nothing else. We are not "a nation like all nations"; we have received our laws and life goals from God on Mount Sinai, and we have faithfully adhered to and always upheld them. That is, until about one hundred years, when the great catastrophe, the Zionist movement, arose with the aim of transforming the Jewish people into a nation like all nations. They said: "We have no connection with God, no connection with Sinai. But by staying strong, together, we will solve our problems ourselves! We will have one country, one state, one army, one language, and everything a country needs. " And that is unfortunately what they did.

Today, after a hundred years of Zionism, we are facing a big mess. God has begun to show us that there is no escape from Him. The Zionists may have raised an insurrection against Him, but He will never accept it. He has been watching on the side for a long time, but it seems obvious that now He is manipulating world events to lead His people back to where He has always wanted it, and still wants it. Therefore, the solution to this problem is not only politically motivated, but also religiously motivated. Either it will be implemented by man, or by God himself.

This solution can only come about if there is pressure from the outside. The world, especially the UN, the U.S. and the EU, have the duty and the power to carry it out.

It is a political solution, but also a divine duty. Because, again, it is God who declares that the Zionist redemption of His people is not acceptable, and that His people must continue to live uninterrupted in exile, waiting for divine salvation. Redemption can only be left in the hands of the one God, and He will carry it out justly, according to His will. There is no other way to redeem the Jewish people. God will do exactly what He intends to do with His world. Israel will be redeemed by Him (not by the "State of Israel"), and the whole world will recognize God's kingdom.

The "redemption" is not reserved only for the people of Israel. God will redeem all of mankind. Peace will prevail all over the world. Every nation, every country and everyone will recognize God's regime and live in everlasting peace and satisfaction.

Now we are being given a unique, perhaps last chance to end the Zionist state on our own initiative, because if we do not, God will do it - the same God who sent His people into exile. He wants His people redeemed not by the Zionists but by Him alone, as He has repeatedly announced through the prophets. There is no getting around God's plan. Therefore, let us have the insight to put the solution into action under all circumstances. There is no time to lose!

Neturei Karta International ľ Neturei Karta - Orthodox Jews United Against Zionism ľ January 2010/Teves 5770


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Old 05-11-2010, 06:10 AM
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What's the common denominator to all this upset and warmongering?

....religion....(or for some of the pedantic out there, belief in supernatural deities)
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Old 05-11-2010, 10:21 AM
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its clear here no one believes or read the bible.. in the book of exodus god led the tribes of israel in the desert to a land now calld israel.. and sead this will be your land which no one will take and its enimys will never defeet you.
so it is israels rightfull land given to them from a higher up
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Old 05-11-2010, 11:25 AM
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What the bible says and what is seen as illegal worldwide are two very different things kerry. Unfortunately for you, and fortunate for the majority in this world, is that homosexuals are free to practice in Christian countries - but it would be a death sentence if the bible got it's way.
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Old 05-11-2010, 12:32 PM
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homos and gays are unclean.
one gets to close to me ill step on him
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Old 05-11-2010, 01:14 PM
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I've never met you kerry, nor do I care to but judging buy your posts your an old man, 6ft. I know a few gay guys that would step on you first. How would that feel? Getting your shit kicked in by a gay guy?

People like you need to get an education, whether that be a book or an ass kicking!
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Old 05-11-2010, 05:30 PM
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nope wrong again
ill kick the s--t out of them,.. i did once and lost my job because od that virus.. he touches me again ill do more then knock him out..
and thers no one 18 and up that can take me mother thats fact
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Old 05-11-2010, 05:46 PM
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hard man eh kerry?

...pathetic
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Old 05-11-2010, 06:06 PM
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dam right i hate gays like a virus fact is that just what they are.
i did send one gay in dreem land for touching me you can ask. but let me warn all gays. touch me and i dont care how bad ass you are i will knock you out
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Old 05-12-2010, 02:20 AM
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Yes I'm sure they all read this thread throughout the world and they all know who you are - so be warned gays!
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