I had no motive..I looks like (to me it has been tampered with)..It's not clear, I can't see his lips moving, to tell if has been overdubbed..
30 seconds is the full video?? come on..no president has made a 30 second speech in his life..
You find it hard to believe that the government conducted unethical experimentation on "unwitting" citizens and that Clinton made a public apology?
I never said that! I just asked you for a better video.
I suspect, in your world, it's better to believe that the video is a fake.
In my world? I just asked you for a better video.
Please tell us what purpose this would serve?
a better video.
Here's a suggestion, since you think the video is a fake, how 'bout you send the video to a media outlet and ask them to authenticate it or to Clinton himself asking him if those are his words.
so, you want ME to validated it when it was your posting?
I just asked you for a better video.
FYI, as anyone can see, the video provides a clip of his speech.
doesn;t look like it to me...
No one said the clip was the entire speech.
yes, yes you did..
Try finding the video on the web.
you are the one who posted it, I just asked you for a better one.
Very few exist.
why do you suppose that is?
Most cannot be FOUND when clicking on the link.
I wonder why?
Oh so you don't know either...
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to know the answer to that question.
apparently it does
I wonder just the same why the video is of such poor quality.
Do you? Do you REALLY??
Doesn't take a rocket scientist....
I have provided the text below.
The following is a portion of a speech given on 10/3/95 by President William C. Clinton concerning ExecutiveOrder 12975 - Protection of Human Research Subjects and Creation of National Bioethics Advisory Commission:
"Thousands of government-sponsored experiments did take place at hospitals, universities, and military bases around our nation. Some were unethical, not only by today's standards, but by the standards of the time in which they were conducted. They failed both the test of our national values, and the test of humanity. The United States of America offers a sincere apology to those of our citizens who were subjected to these experiments, to their families, and to their communities. When the government does wrong, we have a moral responsibility to admit it."
yep. that is fer sure not tampered with. I can tell by the way you wrote it out...
Sorry, but I never said that the video was the entirety of Clinton's speech so don't say that I did, because I didn't.
If you want a better video, find it yourself.
This forum doesn't exist to appease you nor do I.
You're the person who questions the validity of the video, so, yes, you are the person who should attempt to verify it and not me.
This forum doesn't exist to appease you nor do I.
Do your own research.
You're accussing me of tampering with the words Clinton spoke on the video?
You can cleary hear them.
The excerpt was provided by others and myself, as well, and they jive.
Get real, pal!
Either way, take a hike.
I NEVER said any of the things you are accusing me of Blue angel.
I don't need to find a better copy. You are the one who provided the video..I idn't..
to me it's not very viable. If you want ME to beleive or anyone.. you are the one who needs to find a better video
FTR I'm not your pal..
YOU said it was the full speech..then you went and edited your posts...
YOU have an agenda. no one else..just you..
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I haven't accused you of anything, but you've accused me of plenty which is untrue such as tampering with Clinton's words on the video.
I didn't say that you tampered with clinton's words..I asked for a better video.
So you actually made this video??
Doesn't matter whether I provided the video or not, you're the person who isn't satisfied with it and wants a better copy so I suggest you find one.
I don't really care..AT ALL..it still looks fake to me..
I don't work for you.
nor do I you.
I provided a video which was provided by someone else.
you think they could have gotten better footage. hmmmm
Believe it as it is or not, I couldn't care any less.
sure you care..you wouldn't get yourself riled up so bad if you didn't..
CC doesn't exist so that we can spend our time proving that which hasn't been proven by someone such as yourself claiming the video is fake.
I never claimed it was fake. I asked for a better video. I said it SEEMS fake to me. If you don't want to waste your time trying to get a better copy of the video, why should I? I'm not the MCV who is trying to tell my story to the world you are.
I never said it was the full speech and edited my post.
yeah you did.
um okay whatever you say..
You are lying.
hmmm..nope, I have nothing to gain by lying but I'm wondering why you want to make me look crazy, here.
I do have an agenda and so do many others including yourself.
I don't have an agenda..I just asked for a better video
The difference would be that my agenda is honorable and your agenda is not.
so what EXACTALY would my agenda be for asking you for a better copy of the video???
btw, I looked for a better video..you can't see his lips to match the words up to his speech..could be overdubbed..
verb |ˌōvərˈdəb| ( -dubbed, -dubbing)
record (additional sounds) on an existing recording [ trans. ] : she'd overdub her parts for a whole album in a single session | [ intrans. ] a live tape that I overdubbed on.
You're asking me for a better copy of the video because you are attempting to prove that it's a fake because you know that a better copy doesn't exist.
Gee, how convenient.
So, if Clinton's words are overdubbed, what does that prove?
That someone overdubbed his words and he never apologized for the "unethical" experimentations conducted on "unwitting" citizens by the government of the United State's of America?
Could you kindly find out what Clinton really said before he was, as you believe, overdubbed?
Even if the video is a fake; even if his words are overdubbed, I can assure you that "unethical" experimentation's were conducted by the government of the United State's of America on "unwitting" citizens and I don't need a President or otherwise to aknowledge it.
Try searching the "Tuskegee" experimentation.
Here's a question for you.
What would be the point of producing a fake video of Clinton apologizing to the "victim's" of unethical experimentation?
there's alot of people just saying stuff on the web. I don't know why someone would overdub that. But, people do a lot of stuff that I don't understand why.
Why are you so convinced it's the real thing??
and FTR, I didn't know there weren't any good copies of it till I looked LAST NIGHT!
And again..I don't rally give a shit two much..If it's true that Clinton apologised, it would be a start, but, I find it difficult to beleive that a polition would apologise.