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Old 08-20-2010, 09:34 PM
Lovie Lovie is offline
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can you get the full video or at least one that doesn't look like it has been tampered with?

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Old 08-22-2010, 12:34 AM
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I had no motive..I looks like (to me it has been tampered with)..It's not clear, I can't see his lips moving, to tell if has been overdubbed..
30 seconds is the full video?? come on..no president has made a 30 second speech in his life..
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Old 08-22-2010, 09:05 PM
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What?

You find it hard to believe that the government conducted unethical experimentation on "unwitting" citizens and that Clinton made a public apology?
I never said that! I just asked you for a better video.

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I suspect, in your world, it's better to believe that the video is a fake.
In my world? I just asked you for a better video.


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Please tell us what purpose this would serve?
a better video.

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Here's a suggestion, since you think the video is a fake, how 'bout you send the video to a media outlet and ask them to authenticate it or to Clinton himself asking him if those are his words.
so, you want ME to validated it when it was your posting?
I just asked you for a better video.


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FYI, as anyone can see, the video provides a clip of his speech.
doesn;t look like it to me...

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No one said the clip was the entire speech.
yes, yes you did..

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Try finding the video on the web.
you are the one who posted it, I just asked you for a better one.

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Very few exist.
why do you suppose that is?

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Most cannot be FOUND when clicking on the link.

Gee.

I wonder why?
Oh so you don't know either...
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Doesn't take a rocket scientist to know the answer to that question.
apparently it does
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I wonder just the same why the video is of such poor quality.
Do you? Do you REALLY??
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Doesn't take a rocket scientist....

I have provided the text below.

The following is a portion of a speech given on 10/3/95 by President William C. Clinton concerning Executive Order 12975 - Protection of Human Research Subjects and Creation of National Bioethics Advisory Commission:

"Thousands of government-sponsored experiments did take place at hospitals, universities, and military bases around our nation. Some were unethical, not only by today's standards, but by the standards of the time in which they were conducted. They failed both the test of our national values, and the test of humanity. The United States of America offers a sincere apology to those of our citizens who were subjected to these experiments, to their families, and to their communities. When the government does wrong, we have a moral responsibility to admit it."
yep. that is fer sure not tampered with. I can tell by the way you wrote it out...
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Old 08-22-2010, 09:40 PM
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Sorry, but I never said that the video was the entirety of Clinton's speech so don't say that I did, because I didn't.

If you want a better video, find it yourself.

This forum doesn't exist to appease you nor do I.

You're the person who questions the validity of the video, so, yes, you are the person who should attempt to verify it and not me.

Again.

This forum doesn't exist to appease you nor do I.

Do your own research.

You're accussing me of tampering with the words Clinton spoke on the video?

You can cleary hear them.

The excerpt was provided by others and myself, as well, and they jive.

Get real, pal!

Or, don't.

Either way, take a hike.

I NEVER said any of the things you are accusing me of Blue angel.
I don't need to find a better copy. You are the one who provided the video..I idn't..
to me it's not very viable. If you want ME to beleive or anyone.. you are the one who needs to find a better video
FTR I'm not your pal..
YOU said it was the full speech..then you went and edited your posts...
YOU have an agenda. no one else..just you..

Last edited by BlueAngel : 08-22-2010 at 09:45 PM.
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Old 08-22-2010, 10:44 PM
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I haven't accused you of anything, but you've accused me of plenty which is untrue such as tampering with Clinton's words on the video.
I didn't say that you tampered with clinton's words..I asked for a better video.
So you actually made this video??

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Doesn't matter whether I provided the video or not, you're the person who isn't satisfied with it and wants a better copy so I suggest you find one.
I don't really care..AT ALL..it still looks fake to me..
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I don't work for you.
nor do I you.

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I provided a video which was provided by someone else.
you think they could have gotten better footage. hmmmm

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Believe it as it is or not, I couldn't care any less.
sure you care..you wouldn't get yourself riled up so bad if you didn't..


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CC doesn't exist so that we can spend our time proving that which hasn't been proven by someone such as yourself claiming the video is fake.
I never claimed it was fake. I asked for a better video. I said it SEEMS fake to me. If you don't want to waste your time trying to get a better copy of the video, why should I? I'm not the MCV who is trying to tell my story to the world you are.
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I never said it was the full speech and edited my post.
yeah you did.

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NEVER!
um okay whatever you say..

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You are lying.
hmmm..nope, I have nothing to gain by lying but I'm wondering why you want to make me look crazy, here.

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Yep.
sure..

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I do have an agenda and so do many others including yourself.
I don't have an agenda..I just asked for a better video

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The difference would be that my agenda is honorable and your agenda is not.
so what EXACTALY would my agenda be for asking you for a better copy of the video???


btw, I looked for a better video..you can't see his lips to match the words up to his speech..could be overdubbed..

overdub
verb |ˌōvərˈdəb| ( -dubbed, -dubbing)
record (additional sounds) on an existing recording [ trans. ] : she'd overdub her parts for a whole album in a single session | [ intrans. ] a live tape that I overdubbed on.
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Old 08-23-2010, 02:26 PM
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You're asking me for a better copy of the video because you are attempting to prove that it's a fake because you know that a better copy doesn't exist.

Gee, how convenient.

So, if Clinton's words are overdubbed, what does that prove?

That someone overdubbed his words and he never apologized for the "unethical" experimentations conducted on "unwitting" citizens by the government of the United State's of America?

Could you kindly find out what Clinton really said before he was, as you believe, overdubbed?

Even if the video is a fake; even if his words are overdubbed, I can assure you that "unethical" experimentation's were conducted by the government of the United State's of America on "unwitting" citizens and I don't need a President or otherwise to aknowledge it.

Try searching the "Tuskegee" experimentation.

Here's a question for you.

What would be the point of producing a fake video of Clinton apologizing to the "victim's" of unethical experimentation?
there's alot of people just saying stuff on the web. I don't know why someone would overdub that. But, people do a lot of stuff that I don't understand why.
Why are you so convinced it's the real thing??

and FTR, I didn't know there weren't any good copies of it till I looked LAST NIGHT!
And again..I don't rally give a shit two much..If it's true that Clinton apologised, it would be a start, but, I find it difficult to beleive that a polition would apologise.
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Old 08-23-2010, 04:12 PM
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If Clinton apologized it doesn't mean shit. Both Clintons can say anything without honesty.
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Old 08-24-2010, 10:54 PM
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Ohmygoodness.

I contemplate.

Should I even attempt to reply to the following mess that was posted by Lovie?

I say to myself.

Oh, why not?

You've conquered so much worse.

You can do this.

Go for it, I say.

So, I do only because there are a couple of comments by Lovie that I feel I need to clarify, but precision is one of my attributes, so I must not leave any stone unturned in the process.

Cause, that's what I do.

I clarify that which isn't clear.
All of it.
Not just a piece or a particle.

So, please.
Allow me the honor.

Originally Posted by BlueAngel

I haven't accused you of anything, but you've accused me of plenty which is untrue such as tampering with Clinton's words on the video.

Lovie said:

I didn't say that you tampered with clinton's words..I asked for a better video.
So you actually made this video??

YOU SAID THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO TELL THAT THE WRITTEN WORDS WERE TAMPERED WITH. I TRANSCRIBED HIS WORDS (i.e., I WROTE THEM) AND, BTW, PLEASE INFORM THE FORUM HOW IT IS YOU ARE ABLE TO KNOW THAT THE WRITTEN WORDS AS TRANSCRIBED BY ME AND OTHERS WERE TAMPERED WITH.

I NEVER SAID I MADE THE VIDEO.

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Doesn't matter whether I provided the video or not, you're the person who isn't satisfied with it and wants a better copy so I suggest you find one.

Lovie said:

I don't really care..AT ALL..it still looks fake to me..

OBVIOUSLY, YOU CARE AS YOU CONTINUE TO HOUND ME TO FIND A BETTER COPY. SORRY TO INFORM YOU BUT YOUR OPINION THAT THE VIDEO IS A FAKE DOESN'T MATTER.

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I don't work for you.

Lovie said:

nor do I you.

WHO THEN DO YOU WORK FOR IF NOT FOR YOURSELF?

OH, LET ME GUESS!!

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I provided a video which was provided by someone else.

Lovie said:

you think they could have gotten better footage. hmmmm

YEAH, RIGHT.
DAMN THEM.
YOU THINK THEY COULD HAVE PROVIDED BETTER FOOTAGE.
LIKE I SAID.
DID IT EVER OCCUR TO YOU THAT SOMEONE OTHER THAN THE PERSON WHO TOOK THE VIDEO TAMPERED WITH IT?


BlueAngel said:

Believe it as it is or not, I couldn't care any less.

Lovie said:

sure you care..you wouldn't get yourself riled up so bad if you didn't..

SORRY TO DISAPPOINT YOU, BUT I'M NOT RILED UP. YOU ARE APPARENTLY THE PERSON WHO IS RILED UP ABOUT THIS VIDEO AND NOT ME AS YOU CONTINUE TO GO ON AND ON ABOUT IT.

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CC doesn't exist so that we can spend our time proving that which hasn't been proven by someone such as yourself claiming the video is fake.

Lovie said:

I never claimed it was fake. I asked for a better video. I said it SEEMS fake to me. If you don't want to waste your time trying to get a better copy of the video, why should I? I'm not the MCV who is trying to tell my story to the world you are.

AH, YOU SAID IT LOOKS LIKE THE VIDEO WAS TAMPERED WITH; CLINTON'S WORDS WERE DUBBED OVER AND, THEREFORE, IT SEEMS FAKE.

I DIDN'T ASK YOU TO WASTE YOUR TIME FINDING A BETTER COPY OF THE VIDEO. YOU ASKED ME TO WASTE MY TIME FINDING A BETTER COPY OF THE VIDEO FOR YOU.

AS AN MCV, I'M NOT THE LEAST BIT CONCERNED ABOUT FINDING A BETTER COPY OF THE VIDEO, CAUSE, PAL, CLINTONI'S WORDS AREN'T MY EVIDENCE; THEY JUST ADD TO IT.


BlueAngel said:

I never said it was the full speech and then edited my post after you accused me of saying it was the full speech.

Lovie said:

yeah you did.

KINDLY PROVE WHERE I SAID THE CLIP OF CLINTON WAS HIS FULL SPEECH.

I NEVER SAID SUCH A THING AND THEN EDITED MY POST.

YOU'RE THE ONE WHO SAID A PRESIDENT HAS NEVER GIVEN A SPEECH THAT LASTS HOW EVER LONG THIS CLIP DID AND NOT I.

BlueAngel said:

NEVER!

Lovie said:

um okay whatever you say..

YOU BETCHA!

BlueAngel said:

You are lying.

Lovie said:

hmmm..nope, I have nothing to gain by lying but I'm wondering why you want to make me look crazy, here.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO GAIN BY LIEING, THAN DON'T LIE SUCH AS SAYING I SAID THE CLIP REPRESENTED CLINTON'S FULL SPEECH.

Lovie said:

Yep.

sure..

YEP, yet again.

BlueAngel said:

I do have an agenda and so do many others including yourself.

Lovie said:

I don't have an agenda..I just asked for a better video.

SO FIND ONE.

BlueAngel said:

The difference would be that my agenda is honorable and your agenda is not.
wow ..just wow..

NONE OF that transpired.. go back and read the posts..
I asked for a better video..you are the OP of the video..
you made this into some big conspiracy to fuel your demons..
you are insane..
goodbye.
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Old 08-25-2010, 09:58 AM
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If it didn't transpire, why is it there?
well, something transpired but NOT what you claim..
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Go back and read the posts.
I know what I said and what I meant.

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You'll see that they are there.
yes, anyone can see the rubbish that you spew.
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Therefore, they transpired.
Not like you think..

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I'm not the OP of the video and even if I were, it doesn't mean I have to supply you with a better copy.
so, you are saying that you didn't post the video on club conspiracy? It says Blue Angel. so either you are lying or someone is posting under your user name....
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You're the person who wants a better copy, not me.

So, go find one.
so, your satisfied then..cool

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I didn't make this into some big conspiracy, you did.
hmmm just because I think it's fake apology?
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Therefore, you are the one who needed to do so in order to fuel his demons.
I don't know why you keep referring to me in the masculine pronoun. I am female.
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No demons here.
That is what demons want you to believe.
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Old 08-25-2010, 12:44 PM
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Wait until Bill hears about this.
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