You're asking me for a better copy of the video because you are attempting to prove that it's a fake because you know that a better copy doesn't exist.
Gee, how convenient.
So, if Clinton's words are overdubbed, what does that prove?
That someone overdubbed his words and he never apologized for the "unethical" experimentations conducted on "unwitting" citizens by the government of the United State's of America?
Could you kindly find out what Clinton really said before he was, as you believe, overdubbed?
Even if the video is a fake; even if his words are overdubbed, I can assure you that "unethical" experimentation's were conducted by the government of the United State's of America on "unwitting" citizens and I don't need a President or otherwise to aknowledge it.
Try searching the "Tuskegee" experimentation.
Here's a question for you.
What would be the point of producing a fake video of Clinton apologizing to the "victim's" of unethical experimentation?
there's alot of people just saying stuff on the web. I don't know why someone would overdub that. But, people do a lot of stuff that I don't understand why.
Why are you so convinced it's the real thing??
and FTR, I didn't know there weren't any good copies of it till I looked LAST NIGHT!
And again..I don't rally give a shit two much..If it's true that Clinton apologised, it would be a start, but, I find it difficult to beleive that a polition would apologise.
there's alot of people just saying stuff on the web. I don't know why someone would overdub that. But, people do a lot of stuff that I don't understand why.
Why are you so convinced it's the real thing??
and FTR, I didn't know there weren't any good copies of it till I looked LAST NIGHT!
And again..I don't rally give a shit two much..If it's true that Clinton apologised, it would be a start, but, I find it difficult to beleive that a polition would apologise.
Exactly.
You can't think of any reason why someone would overdub the video.
Thanks for proving my point.
I am convinced it's the real thing, because it hasn't been proven to the contrary.
Obviously, you do give a sh*t, because you keep going on and on about it.
He apologized for the Tuskegee experiments.
Do you not believe that either?
Clinton's apology is not a start.
The apology was 15 years ago and nothing else has transpired since then.
Seems to me it was the end and a little too late.
In either event, as far as I'm concerned, an apology to the thousands upon thousands of unnamed victims whom the government abused in "unethical" experimentation and in trauma-based mind control programs is unacceptable.
Last edited by BlueAngel : 08-24-2010 at 08:40 PM.
Should I even attempt to reply to the following mess that was posted by Lovie?
I say to myself.
Oh, why not?
You've conquered so much worse.
You can do this.
Go for it, I say.
So, I do only because there are a couple of comments by Lovie that I feel I need to clarify, but precision is one of my attributes, so I must not leave any stone unturned in the process.
Cause, that's what I do.
I clarify that which isn't clear.
All of it.
Not just a piece or a particle.
So, please.
Allow me the honor.
Originally Posted by BlueAngel
I haven't accused you of anything, but you've accused me of plenty which is untrue such as tampering with Clinton's words on the video.
Lovie said:
I didn't say that you tampered with clinton's words..I asked for a better video.
So you actually made this video??
YOU SAID THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO TELL THAT THE WRITTEN WORDS WERE TAMPERED WITH. I TRANSCRIBED HIS WORDS (i.e., I WROTE THEM) AND, BTW, PLEASE INFORM THE FORUM HOW IT IS YOU ARE ABLE TO KNOW THAT THE WRITTEN WORDS AS TRANSCRIBED BY ME AND OTHERS WERE TAMPERED WITH.
I NEVER SAID I MADE THE VIDEO.
BlueAngel said:
Doesn't matter whether I provided the video or not, you're the person who isn't satisfied with it and wants a better copy so I suggest you find one.
Lovie said:
I don't really care..AT ALL..it still looks fake to me..
OBVIOUSLY, YOU CARE AS YOU CONTINUE TO HOUND ME TO FIND A BETTER COPY. SORRY TO INFORM YOU BUT YOUR OPINION THAT THE VIDEO IS A FAKE DOESN'T MATTER.
Blue Angel said:
I don't work for you.
Lovie said:
nor do I you.
WHO THEN DO YOU WORK FOR IF NOT FOR YOURSELF?
OH, LET ME GUESS!!
BlueAngel said:
I provided a video which was provided by someone else.
Lovie said:
you think they could have gotten better footage. hmmmm
YEAH, RIGHT.
DAMN THEM.
YOU THINK THEY COULD HAVE PROVIDED BETTER FOOTAGE.
LIKE I SAID.
DID IT EVER OCCUR TO YOU THAT SOMEONE OTHER THAN THE PERSON WHO TOOK THE VIDEO TAMPERED WITH IT?
BlueAngel said:
Believe it as it is or not, I couldn't care any less.
Lovie said:
sure you care..you wouldn't get yourself riled up so bad if you didn't..
SORRY TO DISAPPOINT YOU, BUT I'M NOT RILED UP. YOU ARE APPARENTLY THE PERSON WHO IS RILED UP ABOUT THIS VIDEO AND NOT ME AS YOU CONTINUE TO GO ON AND ON ABOUT IT.
BlueAngel said:
CC doesn't exist so that we can spend our time proving that which hasn't been proven by someone such as yourself claiming the video is fake.
Lovie said:
I never claimed it was fake. I asked for a better video. I said it SEEMS fake to me. If you don't want to waste your time trying to get a better copy of the video, why should I? I'm not the MCV who is trying to tell my story to the world you are.
AH, YOU SAID IT LOOKS LIKE THE VIDEO WAS TAMPERED WITH; CLINTON'S WORDS WERE DUBBED OVER AND, THEREFORE, IT SEEMS FAKE.
I DIDN'T ASK YOU TO WASTE YOUR TIME FINDING A BETTER COPY OF THE VIDEO. YOU ASKED ME TO WASTE MY TIME FINDING A BETTER COPY OF THE VIDEO FOR YOU.
AS AN MCV, I'M NOT THE LEAST BIT CONCERNED ABOUT FINDING A BETTER COPY OF THE VIDEO, CAUSE, PAL, CLINTONI'S WORDS AREN'T MY EVIDENCE; THEY JUST ADD TO IT.
BlueAngel said:
I never said it was the full speech and then edited my post after you accused me of saying it was the full speech.
Lovie said:
yeah you did.
KINDLY PROVE WHERE I SAID THE CLIP OF CLINTON WAS HIS FULL SPEECH.
I NEVER SAID SUCH A THING AND THEN EDITED MY POST.
YOU'RE THE ONE WHO SAID A PRESIDENT HAS NEVER GIVEN A SPEECH THAT LASTS HOW EVER LONG THIS CLIP DID AND NOT I.
BlueAngel said:
NEVER!
Lovie said:
um okay whatever you say..
YOU BETCHA!
BlueAngel said:
You are lying.
Lovie said:
hmmm..nope, I have nothing to gain by lying but I'm wondering why you want to make me look crazy, here.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO GAIN BY LIEING, THAN DON'T LIE SUCH AS SAYING I SAID THE CLIP REPRESENTED CLINTON'S FULL SPEECH.
Lovie said:
Yep.
sure..
YEP, yet again.
BlueAngel said:
I do have an agenda and so do many others including yourself.
Lovie said:
I don't have an agenda..I just asked for a better video.
SO FIND ONE.
BlueAngel said:
The difference would be that my agenda is honorable and your agenda is not.
Last edited by BlueAngel : 08-24-2010 at 10:12 PM.
Should I even attempt to reply to the following mess that was posted by Lovie?
I say to myself.
Oh, why not?
You've conquered so much worse.
You can do this.
Go for it, I say.
So, I do only because there are a couple of comments by Lovie that I feel I need to clarify, but precision is one of my attributes, so I must not leave any stone unturned in the process.
Cause, that's what I do.
I clarify that which isn't clear.
All of it.
Not just a piece or a particle.
So, please.
Allow me the honor.
Originally Posted by BlueAngel
I haven't accused you of anything, but you've accused me of plenty which is untrue such as tampering with Clinton's words on the video.
Lovie said:
I didn't say that you tampered with clinton's words..I asked for a better video.
So you actually made this video??
YOU SAID THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO TELL THAT THE WRITTEN WORDS WERE TAMPERED WITH. I TRANSCRIBED HIS WORDS (i.e., I WROTE THEM) AND, BTW, PLEASE INFORM THE FORUM HOW IT IS YOU ARE ABLE TO KNOW THAT THE WRITTEN WORDS AS TRANSCRIBED BY ME AND OTHERS WERE TAMPERED WITH.
I NEVER SAID I MADE THE VIDEO.
BlueAngel said:
Doesn't matter whether I provided the video or not, you're the person who isn't satisfied with it and wants a better copy so I suggest you find one.
Lovie said:
I don't really care..AT ALL..it still looks fake to me..
OBVIOUSLY, YOU CARE AS YOU CONTINUE TO HOUND ME TO FIND A BETTER COPY. SORRY TO INFORM YOU BUT YOUR OPINION THAT THE VIDEO IS A FAKE DOESN'T MATTER.
Blue Angel said:
I don't work for you.
Lovie said:
nor do I you.
WHO THEN DO YOU WORK FOR IF NOT FOR YOURSELF?
OH, LET ME GUESS!!
BlueAngel said:
I provided a video which was provided by someone else.
Lovie said:
you think they could have gotten better footage. hmmmm
YEAH, RIGHT.
DAMN THEM.
YOU THINK THEY COULD HAVE PROVIDED BETTER FOOTAGE.
LIKE I SAID.
DID IT EVER OCCUR TO YOU THAT SOMEONE OTHER THAN THE PERSON WHO TOOK THE VIDEO TAMPERED WITH IT?
BlueAngel said:
Believe it as it is or not, I couldn't care any less.
Lovie said:
sure you care..you wouldn't get yourself riled up so bad if you didn't..
SORRY TO DISAPPOINT YOU, BUT I'M NOT RILED UP. YOU ARE APPARENTLY THE PERSON WHO IS RILED UP ABOUT THIS VIDEO AND NOT ME AS YOU CONTINUE TO GO ON AND ON ABOUT IT.
BlueAngel said:
CC doesn't exist so that we can spend our time proving that which hasn't been proven by someone such as yourself claiming the video is fake.
Lovie said:
I never claimed it was fake. I asked for a better video. I said it SEEMS fake to me. If you don't want to waste your time trying to get a better copy of the video, why should I? I'm not the MCV who is trying to tell my story to the world you are.
AH, YOU SAID IT LOOKS LIKE THE VIDEO WAS TAMPERED WITH; CLINTON'S WORDS WERE DUBBED OVER AND, THEREFORE, IT SEEMS FAKE.
I DIDN'T ASK YOU TO WASTE YOUR TIME FINDING A BETTER COPY OF THE VIDEO. YOU ASKED ME TO WASTE MY TIME FINDING A BETTER COPY OF THE VIDEO FOR YOU.
AS AN MCV, I'M NOT THE LEAST BIT CONCERNED ABOUT FINDING A BETTER COPY OF THE VIDEO, CAUSE, PAL, CLINTONI'S WORDS AREN'T MY EVIDENCE; THEY JUST ADD TO IT.
BlueAngel said:
I never said it was the full speech and then edited my post after you accused me of saying it was the full speech.
Lovie said:
yeah you did.
KINDLY PROVE WHERE I SAID THE CLIP OF CLINTON WAS HIS FULL SPEECH.
I NEVER SAID SUCH A THING AND THEN EDITED MY POST.
YOU'RE THE ONE WHO SAID A PRESIDENT HAS NEVER GIVEN A SPEECH THAT LASTS HOW EVER LONG THIS CLIP DID AND NOT I.
BlueAngel said:
NEVER!
Lovie said:
um okay whatever you say..
YOU BETCHA!
BlueAngel said:
You are lying.
Lovie said:
hmmm..nope, I have nothing to gain by lying but I'm wondering why you want to make me look crazy, here.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO GAIN BY LIEING, THAN DON'T LIE SUCH AS SAYING I SAID THE CLIP REPRESENTED CLINTON'S FULL SPEECH.
Lovie said:
Yep.
sure..
YEP, yet again.
BlueAngel said:
I do have an agenda and so do many others including yourself.
Lovie said:
I don't have an agenda..I just asked for a better video.
SO FIND ONE.
BlueAngel said:
The difference would be that my agenda is honorable and your agenda is not.
wow ..just wow..
NONE OF that transpired.. go back and read the posts..
I asked for a better video..you are the OP of the video..
you made this into some big conspiracy to fuel your demons..
you are insane..
goodbye.
NONE OF that transpired.. go back and read the posts..
I asked for a better video..you are the OP of the video..
you made this into some big conspiracy to fuel your demons..
you are insane..
goodbye.
If it didn't transpire, why is it there?
Go back and read the posts.
You'll see that they are there.
Therefore, they transpired.
I'm not the OP of the video and even if I were, it doesn't mean I have to supply you with a better copy.
You're the person who wants a better copy, not me.
So, go find one.
I didn't make this into some big conspiracy, you did.
Therefore, you are the one who needed to do so in order to fuel his demons.
No demons here.
Demon free!
Last edited by BlueAngel : 08-24-2010 at 11:14 PM.
Your apology for the USA to the countless numbers of those who were "unethically" experimented on in prisons, institutions, hospitals and military bases is not accepted.