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Old 06-13-2011, 03:46 AM
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There was also a rumor that Billy Graham is a Freemason. This was been denied by the Billy Graham association, but Freemasons have the tendency to lie about who is or has been a Freemason. Why not? Lies are part and parcel of the "fraternity".

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Old 06-13-2011, 03:53 AM
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Did you know that rumors of King James being a Mason, or Billy Graham being a Mason or any other famous Christian being a Mason, even if true would not change a thing about my objections. Christ is above all for Christians. If you deny him before men, the Bible says he will deny you before the Father.
It seems very unlikely that King James would be part of a group that would not allow the mention of Christ's name in prayer. Or certainly that Billy Graham would be part of something like that, since his entire life is devoted to spreading the gospel. Something he would have been prohibited from doing as part of Freemasonry. It is ludicrous, the things that Masons will say to legitimize their organization.
You have already admitted that Jesus Christ can't be mentioned at meetings legally. People can say anything but that doesn't make it true. You'd have to have real proof about King James. Which you don't.
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Once again it is really pointless to keep this up. I do agree, the Bible does not specify which kind of oath. I believe that a person who for religious reasons refuses to swear in in a court room is allowed to just say yes, I will tell the truth. But if you are comparing the bloody oaths of Freemasonry to oaths of office there is still a huge difference. I personally don't believe in taking oaths of any kind because of this scripture.
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The first and foremost objection is the forbidding of using the name of Jesus inside of a lodge meeting. That one alone is enough to incriminate the lodge.
But there are many more reasons.
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Actually no, and you'd have to prove that. But he did not personally translate the Bible but rather he commissioned its translation. But of course you must have known that, right?
When King James was 35 he was initiated into Scoon and Perth Lodge #3 on April 15, 1601. He had a hand in a reorganization of Freemasonry in England. Also note that the KJV is the Bible used in most Masonic Lodges.
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This is true, you are allowed to assemble that has not been the point of our discussion. The point is whether a Christian knowing that the name of Christ is prohibited from being mentioned should continue in such an organization seeing that Christ is the person who is our Savior, if He is not to be honored then who, for a Christian, should be?. The point is that Freemansonry is not like any other club as you mentioned. It differs in that way and in others. But you know this, don't you see that this is all double speak?
When I say my prayers I say them to Christ. To those who worship him he is not denied. Freemasonry is a religious tolerant organization and as such we use generic terms to not hold one above another. In most Lodges the Bible sits on the altar as their membership is primarily Christian. In some places you can see either the Torah or the Koran sitting there, and in some places you see all 3. It's up to the Lodge really.

What is the point of Freemasonry to you then?
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As for the Freemason who responded on Yahoo answers, he must not have known.

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Source: D. Crawford Smith and William James Hughan, History of the Ancient Masonic Lodge of Scoon and Perth (Number 3, The Lodge of Scone) Perth: Cowan and Company, Limited, 1898. Also see: Year Book of the Grand Lodge of Antient Free and Accepted Masons of Scotland 1990, p. 50. Note that the Contract or Mutual Agreement is the only record of this initiation, that this history was commissioned by the lodge to establish its claims of precedence, and there is no primary source documentation. Image: artist unknown 'detail'. Scottish National Portrait Gallery.
I also argue against the posters claim that ALL Masonic Lodges use the Bible because not all of them do. I know for a fact that there is a primarily Jewish Lodge in NY that doesn't use the Bible.

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Also if King James had been a Mason why would he be happy with a translation that would be in conflict with Masonic teachings
I don't see a conflict and neither did he.

If the poster was a Mason he was mistaken and if knowing who he was I would correct him on his information so he knew better.
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Also he was weak in body, isn't that a reason not to admit a man?
Well, just because he was sickly doesn't mean he was incapable of going through the initiation and in that time it Freemasonry was going through a transformation and it was fairly aristocratic. Plus, do you really think that in that time they would deny admittance to a king? You're also under the presumption that they had the same membership requirements that we have now.

Also, your link isn't an official biography and is a type of site that doesn't seem to friendly to Freemasonry and thus I doubt would include that.
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There was also a rumor that Billy Graham is a Freemason. This was been denied by the Billy Graham association, but Freemasons have the tendency to lie about who is or has been a Freemason. Why not? Lies are part and parcel of the "fraternity".
Well who started the rumor? Do you have link to this rumor? Just because there's a rumor that he was a Freemason doesn't mean it was started by the Masons. There are tons of non-Masonic sites out there that claim all sorts of people are Freemasons who are in fact not, but they claim it nonetheless.
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Not mentioning in the Lodge isn't the same as denying him. In my prayers I pray to Christ and He knows this. He knows what is in my heart.
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