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Old 08-27-2011, 11:39 AM
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If m= DeltaT then wouldnt that mean that the value of any mass would always be increasing?

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Old 08-27-2011, 11:54 AM
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Thats a most excellent question.

The rate of change in time appears to be constant (to me).

Remember that we are talking about the potential energy of mass and time and the relationship between the two values.

Just as the amount of energy within mass remains constant, I would submit that the amount of energy represented by the rate of change in Time remains constant - supporting my theory that M = Delta T in energy terms.

Hope that makes sense.

Again a most excellent question.

This has got those cogs working in your brain hasn't it? - Sitting here I can almost see them whirring along - to me that's a beautiful thing - to see someone thinking (and hopefully learning something new)!

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Old 09-03-2011, 03:20 PM
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Damn if it hasn't gone awful quiet in here since those unified field equations went up!

Whats happened?

Every ones busy with the pencil n paper working it all out?

Crikey don't be shy lets do it right here on the forum for all to see?

Can't be too hard just a little math really.

Come on all you 'sky-ent-teests' lets hear it!

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Sorry, correlation does not mean causation. We were really the only two in the conversation, and I have been a bit preoccupied with getting ready to move back next week. Sorry.
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Old 09-04-2011, 04:38 AM
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Moving back?

Moving back to the future?

Marty & the professor would be so proud of you! Let me guess, a U haul on the back of the Delorean?

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Old 09-04-2011, 06:21 AM
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Lol one of my favorite movies. No, I just completed my contract here in Dallas early and quite frankly I am sick of the heat.
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Old 09-11-2011, 08:00 PM
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As to be expected the Russians Leonid Lebedev and his Ruski scientist mates are all over this like white on rice.

Source: Russian Scientist Builds Real Time Machine - coupmedia.org

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Russian Scientist Builds Real Time Machine
Written by Truth Advocate Friday, 09 September 2011 12:19 What person hasn't dreamed at least once of returning briefly to a favorite era in the past or seeing a real glimpse of a fantastic future hundreds, even thousands of years from today? Now, released documents support a Russian Scientist Building a Real Time Machine. Despite a spate of articles claiming that travel to the past is flatly impossible, physicists like Stephen Hawking and others say it's not.

Vadim Alexandrovich Chernobrov


And now an engineer named Vadim Alexandrovich Chernobrov claims to have accomplished what others say cannot be done—he's built a working time machine. At least that is his claim. And he says he's tested it and it works. But there are some limitations with its capabilities.
Russian Scientist Builds Real Time Machine

Potential dangers

Chernobrov cautions about potential dangers. "Those who attempt to return to the past to keep certain historical events from occurring—for example, the collapse of the Soviet Union—would fail in the attempt and would run the risk of not being able to return to the future."

The engineer's amazing time machine is a metal sphere that looks much like some of the early Soviet and American satellite spacecraft. Outside it has a diameter of two meters and inside is housed a meter wide space that can house a time-traveling chrononaut.

The device achieves travel through time, according to its inventor, by utilizing strong magnetic fields that resonate about the capsule and affect the natural flow of time and causality by literally increasing or slowing the flow of time.

During experiments, Chernobrov has shown that very precise chronometers, synchronized before the field is energized, experience a significant divergence in time after one has been placed inside the time machine while the other is kept far from the energized field as a control.

The chronometers revealed time is definitely warped within the machine's magnetic fields.

Early schematic of time machine

First time machine made at Moscow Aircraft University

According to an article translated by Lena Ksandinova, "the first Russian time machine was constructed by the scientists of Moscow Aircraft University.

"To understand, how the machine impacts live creatures, Vadim Chernobrov, an experiment administrator, put cockroaches inside. The insects died. They modernized the machine and put mice inside. The effect on them was the same. Scientists realized what the cause of death was: on different parts of the body time ran with a different speed. They fixed the machine once again and put a puppy called 'Lunar Rover' inside. He was inside for 108 minutes. The puppy survived, but behaved like he was having rabies.

"Then experiments on people came. Nine scientists, among which was Chernobrov, took part in it. Instruments inside the machine recorded a 3 percent time shift, and changes in machine size. Experiment participants, however, felt nothing but moderate arrhythmia and colored circles in eyes."

The experiment with people was the most dangerous. Some scientists familiar with the experiment condemned it as reckless.

"We came to conclusion that time is 3–dimensional," explained Chernobrov. "So in fact we can move in time backwards and forwards."



Chernobrov with associate and small model

Details on larger model

As Ksandinova reported, a larger model of the time machine was built to carry humans. It was constructed in a remote forest in Russia's Volgograd Region. While the device had a low power capacity it still affected the flow of time by three per cent; that temporal permutation was measured with symmetrical crystal oscillators.



Artist representation of time experiment

At first, the researchers spent periods of five, ten and later, twenty minutes in the field of the time machine; the longest stay recorded lasted about half an hour. Chernobrov reported the volunteers felt as if they had shifted into a different world: "they felt life here and there at the same time as if some space was unfolding."

Is time being manipulated?

If time travel has, does or ever will exist then by its very nature time travel always exists. "What is troubling is that we have no way of knowing that they aren't already doing it. For those of us in the daily stream of world events, a shift in history might wipe out thousands of people and change entire governments. But for us, the change would go into our memory of events as they happened during our lives. That good friend we went bowling with last night might disappear before the next morning and we would not notice his loss. By the time we awake, the person never existed."

Notes from a pioneer

In his notes on the early time machine experiments, Chernobrov wrote:
In experiments on deceleration and acceleration of a physical Time in small closed volume conducted since 1988, among other things the effect electromagnetic of fields on space-time continuum was checked.
The experimental system for such effect represented set of electromagnets, are connected among themselves in serial and in parallel and installed on the globe-shaped surfaces. In various experiments from 3 up to 5 such surfaces, Electromagnetic Working Surfaces (EWS) was used. All EWS layers of various diameters were installed consistently in each other.
The maximum EWS size was about meter, the minimum EWS diameter (internal) was equal to 115 mm, that has appeared sufficient to place inside of EWS the gauges of the control and experimental animals (various kinds insect and laboratory mouses), to investigate the effects of converging spherical electromagnetic of waves.

Presumably you can reach Vadim Chernobrov through his website at chernobrov.narod.ru/

Chernobrov's complete time machine report, Experiments on the change of the direction and rate of time motion, can be found

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Tis all about magnetic fields at the end of the day.

Isn't that just the type of energy our earth spin (gravity) and heliocentric orbit of the sun (time) are generated?

And thus it is by countering those little understood magnetic energy's with their opposite that cancels out time and indeed even reverses it - just as it is possible to cancel out or reverse gravity's effect with magnetic fields also.!

At the end f the day it is just magnetic form of energy, that we need to understand to master.

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Old 09-17-2011, 10:18 AM
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A lot of people get confused by magnetism. There are many so called perpetual motion machines for example, that utilize magnets but that in actuality are deriving the energy by depleting the magnets themselves. This is all fin and dandy if you happen to sit on a rare earth magnet mine, but it isnt perpetual motion.

Now, one problem I have with this is that we already generate magnetic fields many, many times stronger than anything his little machine would be capable of, and we do not notice any time dilation effects with them. Also, gravity is a force completely independent of magnetism, so no, it is not the force that causes the earths spin or revolution about the sun.
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time is man made, it is irelavent. dont let time run your life
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What does that mean?
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