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#81
01-07-2012, 12:27 PM
 Tiresias Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: South Florida Posts: 4
Re: What is TIME exactly?

Hello Ian, have been reading your and EireEngineer's discussion and find it both interesting and enjoyable. I have a couple of comments concerning, 1. your reference to the Great year of 26000 years. This is is the apparent movement of the sun through the background of stars organized as constellations. The ones that the sun passes through are called the zodiac and this is due to the slow wobble of the earth over that 26000 years.
I believe that suns path around the galaxy is considerably longer. The sun is located about 30,000 light years from the center of the Milky Way. So the diameter of the orbit is 60,000 years, which means the distance traveled for one orbit is about 188,400 light years. From what I remember, the sun's motion about the galactic center is at about 120,000 mph. I haven't done the math, but I believe a full revolution takes about 2.5 million years. However, I do not believe that this will affect the theoretical results you reached.

The second comment is about concept of the MEG. You proposed a battery connected pole to pole, with a switch inserted. The electrical flow will be from positive to negative, and here I have to agree with EireEngineer, when the switch closes the circuit, the potential will rise at the positive pole moving an electron into the conductor. This will start the electron flow. As the conductor is already full of atoms with electrons, when the first electron enters the conductor they all bump at once and an electron exits the conductor at the negative pole. It's like small pipe full of ball bearings, if you push one in, one will exit at the same time. They all bump at once. As to the rest of the theory I cant say.

What I am interested in is monetary systems and banking and how the elite have been using them for years to extract wealth from the people.
I haven't seen these topics on this site, so when I figure where to start the discussion please reply with your thoughts on the issue.
Thanks for letting bend your ear.

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#82
01-08-2012, 10:07 AM
 Ian Moone Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 108
Re: What is TIME exactly?

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 I believe that suns path around the galaxy is considerably longer.
Your correct about the difference between equinoctial precession great year of ~25730 years or so, and the orbit of the sun about the ecliptic plane of the milky way galaxy. Sorry if my explanation created an impression otherwise.

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 However, I do not believe that this will affect the theoretical results you reached.
Your correct it won't affect the math - which stands on its own.

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 It's like small pipe full of ball bearings, if you push one in, one will exit at the same time. They all bump at once
In fact electrical flow along a wire does take a period of time depending on the conductivity of the wire. Its slower for example in a semi conductor and doesn't occur at all in insulators.

In superconductor's the speed (velocity for Eirie Engineer) is thought to approach that of the speed of light!

All the same there is a time delay so unlike the ball bearings in a pipe explanation - "the pushing one ball bearing in at one end and thus instantaneously forcing one out at the other end" without the passage of time, doesn't hold with observed experimental results.

This is part of the problem of our fundamental understanding of sun atomic particles behavior.

In a biography written just before his death, Professor Einstein, is quoted as admitting he had a fundamental error in Relativity. It was he said, one which-when corrected-will explain how light - an obvious wave form - can be propagated across an apparently non-inertial space.

Why is it that in the "time zone" of the nucleus of an atom, "time" seems to "slow down" so that the "measured velocity" of the electron appears to be only 1/137th the speed of light? But the electron's behavior seems to be that it is everywhere around the atom at the same time, or has a "virtual velocity" of infinity.
The physical constant alpha turns out to be equal to 1/137.
It is as if the free energy of the electron has been gravitationally red-shifted by a nucleon-sized black hole.
This changes all observed measurements of time and distance.
The amount of time dilation or gravitational red-shifting of the electron in its ground state compared to the masses of the electron and proton are defined by the universally measured constant called "alpha."
The relationship between the "virtual" and "actual" velocity, meaning distance to time, of the electron is "c."
The relationship of mass/energy to time, meaning gravity, is hidden within Planck's Constant "h."
The relationship of electrical charge "e" to time and gravity is found in the "alpha" definition.
Attempting to produce a complete system of universal science based only on the triumvirate of "measured constants" e, c, and h, has proven to be insufficient and incomplete.
It turns out that a minimum of four constants are needed to define all the properties of time and space.

These words in Blue and Red are quotes from men far smarter than me.

That said, I am relatively sure that we will eventually finds that there will be a minimum requirement of 6 constants (could be 7 even!) will be required to explain all that we observe in our universe!

The recent published works of Nassim Harramein seems to support that statement.

The following is attributed to purported Time Traveler John Titor who claimed to be from the year 2036 - and visited us in yr 2000/2001

Source: Posts-January 2001

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All interesting suggestions related to this topic for consideration or to ponder if you prefer.

In yr 2001 when this was first posted online believe CERN facility was still under construction and not widely publicized yet he named it before most anyone had heard of it.

I'm aware he made some predictions that have not eventuated on this world time line like "no olympics after yr 2004" for example.

Also that USA would erupt into internal conflict (civil war?) with a brief short (nuclear) "world war 3" in 2015!

There are many who spend an inordinate amount of time trying to discredit JTitor as a time traveler and good luck to them.

I am personally more interested in what he says about time itself and how it relates to my hypothesis that there's as much energy within Time as there is within Mass i.e. M = &Delta; T.

With your advanced Math ability - why not resolve the equation I posted a page or so back i.e. substitute Einsteins Alpha constant (1/137) for C^2 in Einsteins original 21 equation proof for e=mc^2?

So far no one else here has bothered.

Cheers!
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Last edited by Ian Moone : 01-08-2012 at 10:17 AM.
#83
01-19-2012, 11:58 AM
 Ian Moone Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 108
Re: What is TIME exactly?

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So it would seem, young jeddi!

Perhaps you should start a thread of your ow to that effect, - rather than seek to change the topic of this one by posting an off topic reply.

Thank you.
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Madness takes its toll - please have exact change handy!

The primary manifestation of Time is Change

Ee does NOT equal Em Cee Squared!

M = Δ T
#84
01-24-2012, 12:04 PM
 Ian Moone Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 108
Re: What is TIME exactly?

See Kiddies - ample proof that energy drinks, mixed with crystal meth will severely fuck with your brain!

This intellect is our species best hope for the future?
Nuke us all now and save us the torture of being slowly dumbed to death!.
Damn oxygen thieves...

A simple condom when you were both still just a shag in your dads bag could have saved the world all this grief.

Perhaps your dads should have both been sterilized at birth, or at least stuck with wanking in the shower and creating drain babies!

Now the world is stuck with you two....

If ever there was a case for shape shifting aliens that feed on human flesh - you two make the supreme case for it!

Cheers!
__________________
Madness takes its toll - please have exact change handy!

The primary manifestation of Time is Change

Ee does NOT equal Em Cee Squared!

M = Δ T
#85
01-25-2012, 07:43 AM
 Ian Moon Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 5
Re: What is TIME exactly?

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 Originally Posted by Ian Moone See Kiddies - ample proof that energy drinks, mixed with crystal meth will severely fuck with your brain! This intellect is our species best hope for the future? Nuke us all now and save us the torture of being slowly dumbed to death!. Damn oxygen thieves... A simple condom when you were both still just a shag in your dads bag could have saved the world all this grief. Perhaps your dads should have both been sterilized at birth, or at least stuck with wanking in the shower and creating drain babies! Now the world is stuck with you two.... If ever there was a case for shape shifting aliens that feed on human flesh - you two make the supreme case for it! Cheers!
Precisely.

Last edited by Ian Moon : 01-25-2012 at 07:49 AM.
#86
03-18-2012, 06:46 AM
 ragavang43 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 20
Re: What is TIME exactly?

NIce explanation
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