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Old 07-03-2005, 07:35 PM
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Yeah, when was the last time an honest election happened in this country? :-P

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Old 07-03-2005, 07:52 PM
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Well, seems to me if my memory serves me correctly, we may never have had an honest election.

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But, come on, you're killing me with your comment on the Good Night thread!!

GO ANSWER IT!! Perhaps just by saying that, my happy pills won't work tonight!!

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Old 07-04-2005, 06:24 PM
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July 4th and the end of America, land of the free
Mike Adams | July 4 2005
Happy July 4th. On this, the 229th birthday of our nation, we find the very foundation of our nation in grave danger as our (elected?) leaders continue to destroy many of the rights and freedoms our forefathers worked so hard to put in place. It is no coincidence that, this very week, our President has created a domestic spy service called the National Security Service. That's the NSS, not to be confused with the SS of Nazi Germany, which had much the same function in pre-war Germany.
Amendment IV: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Not to be outdone in the race to a police state, the Supreme Court lobotomized the 4th Amendment last week. There is no longer anything resembling "private property" in this country. There is only the illusion of ownership, as long as it is allowed by your government. At the stroke of a pen, any government (city, state, federal) can seize your land and your home, for any reason.
In other words, the State is now the true owner of all land and all property. The very term "owner" refers to the person or organization that controls the use of that land. If you don't control its use, you are not the owner. The State is. You just pay rent. And if you don't cooperate with government takeover of your land, they can always declare you a terrorist and seize your land under The Patriot Act.
Speaking of The Patriot Act, this misguided act allows the U.S. government to secretly tap your phone lines without a court order. It also allows the feds to rifle through library records in order to spot "terrorist readers" who apparently frequent these institutions of knowledge. Libraries are terrorist training camps, didn't you know?
Amendment VI: In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.
Think the Bill of Rights still applies in this country? The 6th Amendment has been nullified by the practices taking place at Guantanamo Bay. The U.S. government simply kidnaps anyone they want, ships them off to Gitmo, then leaves them there to rot, without being charged, without a trial, and without legal representation. By calling them "enemy combatants," the Bush Administration seemingly avoids having to abide by the Geneva Convention as well, which requires certain standards of treatment for prisoners of war
Amendment XIV: ...nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
As the Bush Administration runs rampant over the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights, do you feel any safer from terrorists? Do you feel like this administration is protecting your life, liberty and property? Are you any freer or safer today than you were five years ago?
Of course not. We're all in far more danger, and we're all less free. Our Constitution and its Bill of Rights lie in shambles. The very fact that this is happening reckons back to the purpose of the Bill of Rights in the first place: to ensure that no government tramples on its people.
You see, our nation's forefathers understood that the greatest threat to freedom was not an enemy nation, but rather a nation's own government. The Bill of Rights was created for the sole purpose of limiting the power of government over the people. Our forefathers knew that all governments eventually get out of control and become oppressive regimes. So they purposefully created the Bill of Rights in an effort to guarantee that no government could deprive its citizens of free speech, freedom to bear arms, the right to own land, and other rights necessary for the prosperity of a free nation.
That our own government is systematically destroying the Bill of Rights is proof that our forefathers were correct.
I wonder: when will all the Bush-supporting people in this country realize they're driving us head-first into a police state? No administration in the history of this country has done more to take away our personal freedoms than this one. And yet half the country is rallying behind this President.
The people have no idea what they've done. They've sent this country spiraling down the dark path of a police state. They've looked the other way while our rights and freedoms were stolen. They've supported an unjustified attack on a foreign state that will only serve to breed more terrorists who understandably hate this country and its people. The Bush Administration has created a terrorist breeding ground that will haunt this nation for a hundred years or more.
So happy 4th of July. It's a national holiday that celebrates the founding of a great nation. But this 4th of July, that great nation no longer exists. Instead, we have a police state, operated under the illusion of freedom. The illusion of Democracy. The illusion that your vote counts. The illusion that by giving up your freedoms, you'll gain security.
This July 4th, I'm not watching any fireworks displays. Why? Because I know what they stand for, and I can't stand to witness such blatant hypocrisy in the night sky. Don't people realize they're watching a fireworks display that symbolizes all the very freedoms and rights that are right now being taken away from them?
To watch a fireworks display and smile is to live in utter ignorance of what is happening to our nation. It's an apt distraction, however. What better time to pull the rug of freedom out from under peoples' feet than to catch them staring blankly into the sky?
If you truly watch a July 4th fireworks display this year, friends, watch it and weep. Weep for the memory of a once-great nation that used to cherish the freedoms of its citizens. Weep for the damned souls of those leaders who have misled us. Weep for our children who will never know a free America.
Weep for the lost dreams of our forefathers who tried an experiment called a Constitutional Republic, where governments were run for the benefit of the people; where elected leaders represented the interests and needs of the common folk; where our rights and freedoms were guaranteed under rule of law.
This July 4th, that experiment has run its course, and it has failed. Goodbye, America, land of the free. Make way for Amerika, land of Homeland Security.
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Old 07-04-2005, 06:31 PM
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Death, Tyranny, and the pursuit of something to eat. yup, future looks kinda bleak. Excuse me while I go grab another beer. int: 8-)
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Old 07-04-2005, 08:32 PM
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Yep, chipping away at the core and fabric of the Constitution. Hear that, "chip, chip."

Chipping and chipping, shredding and shredding until the Constitution is null and void.

He delinates very well the Amendments that they have thus far "tampered" with.

Problem is that most people have not familiarized themselves with the Constitution so they do not realize that their rights are being seized at every opportunity by the "evil" doers.

No, not Osama or Saddam. Not that they aren't evil doers as well, but the likes of the PNAC members, the Bushmen, Cheney, Wolfowitz, etc., etc., etc.

So, what do we do???

Those in the Senate must speak out to the people about this!! The most noble document in the land, that which was written for the people, of the people and by the people is in "grave" danger of being replaced by THEIR own set of NAZI rules.

One that does not protect the people, but PROTECTS THEM from their crimes upon humanity.

National Security Service!! Right!! It's the SS.

Secret police lurk about!!

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Old 07-05-2005, 12:01 AM
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I wonder: when will all the Bush-supporting people in this country realize they're driving us head-first into a police state? No administration in the history of this country has done more to take away our personal freedoms than this one. And yet half the country is rallying behind this President.
Well the people pulling the strings behind the sceans really pulled a brilliant move, actually a series of moves over a pretty long period of time.

First they get George I elected, and despite the fact that some of us were on to him for a long time (I was onto him since the 1980 election, although at that time I didn't know that much about the NWO, and just considered him a liberal hiding in conservative clothing), and he deliberatly threw his reelection campaign, and allowed slick willie to win, which scared the hell out of most conservatives (real conservatives anyway, not the neo-conman varity).

After 8 years of slick willie's rule, most people who considered themselves conservative were willing to settle for something less that what they would have prefered, and so they voted for George II (not me though, I was one of the few who would not compromise, and I voted for Buchanan).

Even after OKC, and Waco no one expected that the trotskite neo-conmen would pull 9-11, and it took the vast majority of the country by suprise. Only a very few doubted what they thought they witnessed on television. Some of us did though, and fortunately more and more people are starting to suspect that something is amiss, but nowhere near enough.

Unfortunatly those of us that are looking at things critically do not have access to the media, and this is one of our biggest weaknesses. *If* the information that is on the internet were to be presented to the public via television, radio, and newspapers then you would see public outrage.

Even more Unfortunately the MSM is complicit with the govt. in the destruction of The Constitution. Most people do not even realize what is occuring, and those that are paying really close attention the the MSM believe that what is being done is something completly different from what is actually being done.

So, now the problem is how do we change this situation? I don't know, unless someone with enough resources to buy a tv network, and is dedicated to our Constitutional Liberties joins the fight.

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So happy 4th of July. It's a national holiday that celebrates the founding of a great nation. But this 4th of July, that great nation no longer exists. Instead, we have a police state, operated under the illusion of freedom. The illusion of Democracy. The illusion that your vote counts. The illusion that by giving up your freedoms, you'll gain security.
Actually it is supposed to be the celebration of the birth of a Republic of Republics, and not a nation as in a consolidated nation state. The Republic of Republics died an unnatural death in 1865, killed by the tyrant lincoln (spit!), and the republicrud party (see http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo32.html). As far as democracy goes, the country was never a democracy. The Founding Fathers knew that a democracy was the most unstable form of government (it's essentially mob rule), and they choise a Republican form of government which is the most stable form of representive government.

Oh, and as far as celebrating the 4th, for those of us, Southerners at least, who know their history it's a day of mourning since the death blow to the Founding principles was dealt on 4 July, 1863.
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Old 07-05-2005, 12:08 AM
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Oh, by the way, I forgot to mention in my previous post that I'm putting up a website. Not much there now but links, but there are probably some there that y'all may not have run into before. I've also got one article posted there that is relevant to this topic. The website is at http://ww2.dixie-net.com/~free_dixie/ and the article is at http://ww2.dixie-net.com/~free_dixie/Independence.html
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Old 07-05-2005, 05:09 AM
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Is it not the responsibility of the President, who is sworn under oath:

To uphold, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.

?

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Treason;

betrayal of one's country to an enemy.

Well, in this case, since they are the enemy, we have a problem.

However, those representative of the people who are not bringing this matter to the attention of the American people; the destruction of the Constitution and our freedoms, in my opinion, have committed Treason.

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Are they just going to stand idly by???
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