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Old 12-30-2013, 12:07 PM
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"Freemasonry is not Christianity, nor a substitute for it.

It does not meddle with sectarian creeds or doctrines, but teaches fundamental religious truth." (Albert G. Mackey, "Encyclopedia of Freemasonry," page 162)

"Masonry, like all the Religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled; to conceal the Truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it." (Albert Pike, "Morals and Dogma," page 104)

"Drop the theological barnacles [timeless Biblical truths] from the religion of Jesus, as taught by Him, and by the Essenes and Gnostics of the first centuries, and it becomes Masonry, Masonry in its purity, derived as it is from the old Hebrew Kaballa as a part of the great universal religion of the remotest antiquity." (J. D. Buck, "Mystic Masonry," page 119)

Freemasons Roots & Links to the Occult….. index

MASONS ARE DECEIVED

MASONRY CLAIMS TO BE SUPERIOR TO CHRISTIANITY

MASONRY IS ANTI-CHRISTIAN

MASONRY CLAIMS TO PROVIDE SALVATION WITHOUT JESUS

MASONS WORSHIP PAGAN GODS

MASONIC INITIATION

MASONIC OATHS

MASONIC SECRETS

MASONIC MORALS

MASONRY'S RELATIONSHIP TO THE MAFIA AND THE KU KLUX KLAN

MASONRY'S INFLUENCE ON AMERICA

MASONRY'S INFLUENCE ON THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH IN AMERICA

FREEMASONRY AND CULTS

PRIMARY LOYALTY

CAN CHRISTIANS BE MASONS?

FREEMASONS CURSE THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES

Source….. http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/006/freemasons.htm

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"Freemasonry is not Christianity, nor a substitute for it.
"Masonry is not a religion. He who makes of it a religious belief, falsifies and denaturalizes it." -Albert Pike in Morals & Dogma

People like you are the real threat to humanity. Your kind would ban us, jail us, or worse solely based on ignorance and conjecture. Not free nation has ever banned Freemasonry and it has only ever been authoritarian nations that have prosecuted and oppressed the freedom of assembly and private groups.
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What would Jesus say about Freemasonry today?


http://www.gnosticliberationfront.co...the_kabala.htm


By Harrell Rhome, M.Div., Ph.D.*“Everything begins in mysticism and ends in politics.”***Charles Peguy*FOREWORD*“We cannot doubt that miracles of magic and alchemy did really happen in past times.* They were not common, and there was much superstition and knavery entangled in them.* It is important to sift superstition from magic…. *There is a reason for every belief, and even the most fantastic, and it should be our object to discover this reason.”**H. Stanley Redgrove, B.Sc., F.C.S. in Magic And Mysticism: Studies In Bygone Beliefs, 1971.For some time, I have studied metaphysics and the strange body of knowledge called the occult, trying to discover how these ideas and movements interact with certain individuals, groups and historical forces to form our present-day world order.* After much study, it is not an exaggeration to say that both overt and covert occultism underlie the Globalist one-world protocols of what we call, for lack of a more exact term, the New World Order. Some call them Illuminati (Enlightened Ones).* Or, they can simply be designated as the Dark Forces.* Careful and diligent readers already know that, at the root of this metaphysical malevolence and mayhem, and at the core of almost all New Age beliefs, is a distinct ritual occult system, rooted in Kabala.* When the massive tome called the Zohar (“Radiance” or “Splendor”) is studied closely, all of this becomes clear.* This is not to say that the concepts are not found elsewhere and earlier, but it is in Kabala that certain themes are pinpointed and perfected. The roots of Hegelian Synthesis, Marxism, Collectivism, the group mind, mind control, evolution, and much more, are in the Zohar.*Once this is realized, it is easy to see that, among other things, ritual magic, secret societies and Kabalism are of importance in understanding world history.* Occult belief systems underlie many, if not all, decisions made by the New World Order Planners.* These obscure, yet often deadly creeds have Kabala at their heart and epicenter.* Never forget that the important thing is not whether you personally “believe” in the occult or not.* Nor does it matter whether or not “magic” really “works”.* The crucial factor is that high-level globalist Illuminati planners DO believe.* This brings forth another crucial element in our occult criminal cult profile.* Their “magic” requires certain acts and symbols be presented in (at least some degree of) public view.* A related element is their propensity for in-your-face actions rather than mere “symbolic” appearances.* I present information on these murky and mystical topics, introducing both old and new sources.* Just as it is with my book and articles on Islam, it is important that we understand the core belief systems of those who oppose us.* If you think it is important to understand Islam as an opposing system, then you must agree that the systems we now discuss, Kabalism and Illuminism, are due no less close scrutiny.* Kabalism and Illuminism are a part of news and current events because key players on the world stage are heavily influenced by occult paradigms and eons-old symbology.*There are some around me who say I should not be preoccupied with such “dark topics”, but what can I say?* Here we go again.* Mysticism and magic may seem odd topics for a “serious researcher”, but please humor an eccentric old writer who delves into archaic lore, and for now, just read on.* But when finished, write a letter or e-mail and tell me what you think.
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WHAT IS FREEMASONRY?***Freemasonry is essentially a form of Kabalist Judaism, as Masonsic masters like Albert Pike and Manley P. Hall tell us, but like the ritual murder phenomenon, it is a subject demanding much more space than available here.* So, without belaboring a complex and difficult topic, a few words are in order.* Masons proudly claim the Jewish Temple and the Kabala as the essence of their heritage and traditions.* Even if they did not, a cursory study of the rites and beliefs is enough to see the bigger picture.* If in need of further proof, find a copy of Pike’s famous book, Morals And Dogma. You need not read all that much to see that of which I speak.* The Lodges have never really hidden this, but nor do they emphasize it other than for attracting naïve and misinformed Christians who mistakenly revere the Old Testament.* Until the higher degrees, and even there for some, one can pretend to be a good Christian and a good mason at the same times.* Masonry is seen as many things by many people, just as intended.***“The truth is that Freemasonry in a generic sense is simply a system of binding men together for any given purpose, since it is obvious that allegories and symbols, like the x and y of algebra, can be interpreted in a hundred different manners.”* Nesta Webster.**


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What would Jesus say about Freemasonry today?
Seems a little blasphemous that someone would presume to speak for God.
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Seems a little blasphemous that someone would presume to speak for God.
Not at all, not at all. I lay no claim to speak to God, although isn't that what billions of people do worldwide when praying? Does Jesus offend your "teachings"?

With the Occultic Knowledge of 3000 plus years of Oppressing Humanity,Freemasonry/Masons are very adept at being offended.

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Not at all, not at all. I lay no claim to speak to God, although isn't that what billions of people do worldwide when praying?
You should really look up the difference between "for" and "to".

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Does Jesus offend your "teachings"?
Not at all as I am Christian.

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With the Occultic Knowledge of 3000 plus years of Oppressing Humanity,Freemasonry/Masons are very adept at being offended.
Uh huh...
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You should really look up the difference between "for" and "to".


Not at all as I am Christian.


Uh huh...
A Christian?

http://www.bibleprobe.com/freemasonry.htm

Letters on Freemasonry, by our 6th President, John Quincy Adams, first published in 1833, is finally back in print.*Until now, it was nearly impossible for the general public to obtain a copy of this fascinating book.John Quincy Adams, a devout Christian, was probably America's most intelligent President.* He spoke and wrote 7 languages.* He mastered the Latin, Greek, French, Dutch, and Spanish languages.* He also studied law, and graduated from Harvard University in 1787 second in his class, with high honors.* Adams was a determined opponent of the secret society and fraternity of Freemasonry, the Masonic Lodge.President Adams was convinced Freemasonry was Luciferian, noxious, detrimental and highly evil.**So convinced was Adams of the devilish and negative effects of Freemasonry in the affairs of men that the former President of the United States helped to found the Anti-Mason Political Party. In 1830, he was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives on the Anti-Mason Party ticket.*It was the tragic murder of Captain William Morgan by a group of Masons in the state of New York in the year 1826 that further heightened Adams’ sense of urgency to warn of the dangers of the Masonic Lodge. Morgan, an ex-Mason, had revealed some of the secrets of the Masons—oaths, handshakes and ritual trappings, etc. In retaliation, he was ritually murdered in a particularly gruesome manner, and his lifeless, mutilated body abandoned in a lake.

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That's Christianity?

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A Christian?
I am and no man will tell me otherwise.

As to your little link:

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Freemasonry is incompatible with Christianity!
I have seen nothing that supports this.

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In Freemasonry the god of the secret societies is covertly substituted for the One True God. This false god is identified in the Masonic lodges as "the Great Architect."
As we have men of various faiths we don't elevate one faith above another so the Fraternity uses "GAOTU" is a generic term for each to apply in his own way. For me, the GAOTU is the God of the Bible.

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Freemasonry teaches that due-paying Freemasonry & good works alone is one's guarantee for Heaven.
Actually we don't.

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because they think the perfect Mason is like God.
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Masons are lied to about everything in the 1st three degrees.
False.

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Be greedy. Be selfish - if these help you get ahead. Win at any cost.
This exactly what Freemasonry is against.

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Ex-33 degree Mason Jim Shaw...
Jim Shaw was never a 33rd.

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In his book Masonry "Beyond the Light", William Schnoebelen...
You mean the Catholic, Wiccan, Satanic, Vampire, Mormon? LOL This guy is a charlatan who invented a Masonic resume to give himself credibility when spreading his hatred and lies. People who believe this guy deserve to be misled and ignorant.



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One main difference between Freemasonry and Christianity is that Christianity holds that Jesus is everything, while Masonry teaches that He is nothing
False.

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The "Black Communion" of Maundy Thursday
There's nothing mocking, blasphemous, immoral, or wrong about this ceremony. I've taken part and with this year I take over as presiding over it.

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33 degree Initiation Ceremony
Strange Black Mass/Black Communion
as told by ex 33 degree Mason Jim Shaw
Except he was never invited to be a 33rd.

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Thomas Paine, a Mason, who wrote the extraordinarily successful pamphlet called "Common Sense" during the American Revolution tells us what Masons really teach and believe when he wrote about it
Paine was not a Mason. He took many references from an anti-Mason by the name of Pritchard.

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Karl Marx, Lenin and Trotsky, were all Freemasons.
False.

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High level Masons believe that Lucifer never fell to earth and that Lucifer is really God, and refer to Yahweh by the name of ‘Adonay.’
False. This idea comes from a fraudulent hoax perpetrated by a Frenchman known as Leo Taxil who admitted he made it all up. It's sad to see so many falling for his lies.

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The rank and file Mason hasn't got a clue that the goal of Masonry is the same as Satan's and Islam -- world domination.
Masons have no such goal. Also, who honestly cares about what a Pope said? The Catholic Church has perpetrated some of the most horrific atrocities in the history of the world. This site just seems like a fanatical website.

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Candidates of this 3rd degree undergo a mock death and resurrection that simulates the death and resurrection of a legendary character, Hiram Abiff.
Except in the Hiramic legend, he is not resurrected.

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Although Masons will admit to a history only as far back as 1717, research indicates that the same Masonic rituals and beliefs were in use by the Knights Templers.
False. Our history goes back much farther. The first Grand Lodge was created in 1717, but Lodges existed long before that. Also, there is no existing ritual of the medieval Templars so we cannot say what their ritual looked like. There are many theories, even by Masons, on Templar continuation myths, but there is no concrete evidence...it's all theory. Stephen Dafoe wrote a book called "Compasses and the Cross" which debunks many of the theories.

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Aleister Crowley in Freemason regalia
He was a member of a irregular "mason lodge" and was denied entry into Lodges in American and England.

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In many lodges the holy name of Jesus is not allowed to be spoken. Praying to Jesus, or ending a prayer in the name of Jesus is an "offense" big enough to get a lodge closed.
False. Every time I pray I pray to Jesus nor will saying his name end a Lodge. This is just pathetic right here.

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Black (Negroes) and women are entirely excluded from the Masonic brotherhood.
False. There are black men in my Lodge and we're not PHA.

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George Washington wrote:

Mount Vernon, September 25, 1798.

"to correct an error you have run into, of my Presiding over the English lodges in this Country. The fact is, I preside over none, nor have I been in one more than once or twice, within the last thirty years."
False. He never said such things and was active until the end of his days. Here are some notable events:
April 28, 1788 - Named Charter Worshipful Master of Alexandria Lodge No. 22 when a new charter from the Grand Lodge of Virginia was issued. Unanimously re-elected Master December 20, 1788 for one year.

September 18 Acting Grand Master - Laid the cornerstone for the United States Capitol, Washington, D.C. 1794 Sat for William Williams, portraitist, in Masonic regalia at the request of Alexandria Lodge 1797 March 28 Received a Masonic delegation from Alexandria Lodge

April 1, 1798 - Attended Alexandria Lodge No. 22 Proposed a toast at the banquet that followed
Okay, I'm only halfway down this page of lies, but I'm not going to keep reading as it is a waste of time.

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Letters on Freemasonry, by our 6th President, John Quincy Adams, first published in 1833, is finally back in print.
Who cares? His opinion is just that, an opinion, but one must look that this was during the height of anti-Masonry of the 19th century.

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It was the tragic murder of Captain William Morgan by a group of Masons in the state of New York in the year 1826 that further heightened Adams’ sense of urgency to warn of the dangers of the Masonic Lodge. Morgan, an ex-Mason, had revealed some of the secrets of the Masons—oaths, handshakes and ritual trappings, etc.
One of the biggest events to affect all of Masonry was the Morgan Affair. Anti-Masonry had been around since 1723 with the establishment of the Gormogons. Towards the end of the 18th century there was a spike of anti-Masonic sentiment stemming from inflammatory sermons given by Jedidiah Morse. Strong anti-Masonic sentiments would not rise again until the Morgan Affair.

On March 13th, 1826, William Morgan, a supposed Mason, living in Batavia, NY, signed a contract for a book that was to expose the secrets of Freemasonry; some believe out of resentment for his Masonic affiliation being questioned by the Batavian Masons. Morgan's membership in the Lodge was later questioned, but this occurred after he had received the degrees of Royal Arch Masonry.

Prone to drunkenness Morgan bragged about his book and soon everything came to a head in September. He was arrested for theft, but upon making bail was rearrested for failure to pay a debt of $2.68 and upon his release from jail he disappeared by means of which were never agreed upon by the "eye witnesses". Anti-Masons push that he was kidnapped and killed by a band of Masons. Several Masons were arrested and convicted of kidnapping, but there was never proof that he was killed.

Even after his disappearance, his book was still published. All of these circumstances culminated in an uproar of public outrage. Regardless of reality, ALL Freemasons were seen as guilty of the murder of William Morgan. Soon anti-Masonic propaganda spread into all avenues of society to include churches and politics which led Thurlow Weed, a NY politician, to form anti-Masonic movement in February of 1828, gathering discontented opponents of President Andrew Jackson, known to be a Mason, into the Anti-Masonic political party. In many places in New England and America, Masonry ceased to exist for a number of years, but would come back, stronger.

It should be noted that what he published was no different than any other "expose" on Masonry and there was no precedence to retaliate against him.

"Far from the truth are such impressions. With dozens of exposés printed; with hundreds to be bought for a few cents; with this cancer existing for more than two hundred years, would not Freemasonry have been long ago destroyed if these books were actually as harmful as so many supposed? Actually Freemasonry has grown from a handful of men in 1717 to five million in the civilized world, neither because of, or in spite of exposés..."


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In retaliation, he was ritually murdered in a particularly gruesome manner, and his lifeless, mutilated body abandoned in a lake.
There's no evidence of this.
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Well done Redrat11 but you should have known you were dealing with a satanic brown-tongue.

Message to K sic mason, satan the gay had a hot curry last night so ye'd best be on yer way (smile). We all know you that you like to get the last word in so post it when you come back (after a shower).

God has a great sense of humour.
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Well done Redrat11 but you should have known you were dealing with a satanic brown-tongue.

Message to K sic mason, satan the gay had a hot curry last night so ye'd best be on yer way (smile). We all know you that you like to get the last word in so post it when you come back (after a shower).
Be on my way? To where?

Maybe instead of attacking me you should attack the message and prove your point. Please note: Conjecture is not proof.

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Oh, I have nearly 30-years of proof to support that.
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