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Old 04-04-2006, 06:57 PM
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This feminist must be stopped.
Anyone else able to find critiques of Oprah?


Watching Oprah: My Venture to Hell, Part I.
By Bernard Chapin

Just a short while ago it seemed that Michael Moore was all the rage as many leftists spontaneously interjected a great "truth" from his films into normal conversation. Whenever one responded by bringing up Moore's penchant for lies, the response of, "Well, you probably didn't even bother to see the movie," was made. To get around this endless argument stopper, I broke down and rented two of his scandalographies. Despite my suffering, those wasted hours proved an excellent means for combating, and infuriating, the pontificating leftists I encountered.
I have found that I am often subjected to the same "you have to watch it first" argument regarding Oprah Winfrey. That she has a near cult following among American women is beyond dispute. It seems that nearly every woman I know, regardless of their learning capacity, values the program. As a heterosexual, I have found that the best way of dealing with the issue is to avoid it because invariably a new flame may have copies of O Magazine laying around the coffee table. My current girlfriend even corrected me regarding the subject. She said, "I don't like Oprah; I love Oprah." Upon hearing that, I longed to get the subject back to potpourri.
The point is, Oprah is so adored one has to just accept this negative trait among individual women, but that doesn't mean that we can't skewer the show in print. That being said, let's hook up the OxyContin I.V. and enter the over-emotional big top. We will boldly go where New Age men go everyday. The program will be discussed first and then be evaluated via four measures, which are as follows:
The Castration Index—how much male bashing is evident over its
forty-some minutes.
Irresponsibility Index—how much the forces outside a person are to
blame for the situation they find themselves in.
"It's all about me" Scale—what percent of the show is devoted to
narcissism and self-focus.
Pity Promenade—how much the guests plead for the audience to
embrace them and feel sympathy for how bad these women have it
living in our luxurious land of due process, strip malls, and doggy
Cross to Bear I: The Williams Sisters.
The Directv Guide noted that Venus and Serena Williams would be the focus for day one. I felt like skipping it because I figured it would be more objective than the norm. Then I realized that this would further skew my, already-too-small, sample. The screen lit up and there was Oprah with a face a decade younger than when I last saw her a decade ago. What could have caused such age resistance? Perhaps she has found the fountain of youth. Then she began to speak, and within seconds she made a dig towards men. She claimed that young women were getting plastic surgery and had body identification problems due to their need to please boys. I've heard this stuff for many years now and it's bunkum. Analyzing girls in a vacuum is merely intellectual cowardice. Adolescence, regardless of sex, is a time of uncertainty and striving marked by rampant insecurity. Well, there it is; the non-sexist truth. So, do I get to take over her highchair upon the stage? Oh, I guess not. Meritocracy is something we only fantasize about at present.
Oprah then introduced her guests. The two Williams sisters emerged and were sincere, beautiful and unassuming throughout. They were perhaps the only mature people in the building. Jada Pinkett Smith rounded out the celebrity panel, and wholeheartedly competed for attention with the host for the remainder of the program.
What was the rationale for bringing these performers out? Well, it was to save American girls [I'm not making it up. That's what the show was ostensibly about]. Mrs. Smith brought with her a new book entitled, Girls Hold Up the World . I have not read the book but assume that it does not refer to a "woman's place" being in the building trades. The Williams sisters also had a book which was displayed. Oprah then declared that they were having "a girl party." Smith added that it would last "all day long." From this particular celebrity, who is the wife of Will Smith, we find that the secret to finding love is to love your self. The audience cheered ecstatically. Is such an assumption true? Absolutely not, why would anyone love another based on self-love? I have no idea. It's a non-starter and is probably more an indicator of self-absorption than of confidence or any other endearing quality. Self-love is an affront to God and leads to vanity, narcissism, and the shallowness of mind wherein a person prefers television to reading or thinking.
A psychologist was introduced and said the problem many young girls have is that boys (she added men later) come along and "drop trash" into women's bodies. Girls are not "receptacles for sperm," their bodies are temples and not a dumping zone for male insecurities. Oprah agreed heartily and even said that "there needs to be a revolution." There sure does and it's going to start with her being forced to read my critique in a non-ritzy location.
The assault on men never got underway, however. It was undermined by the statements of her adolescent guests. A hurt girl, upon being prodded as to why she felt insecure, chose not to blame boys but instead cited her sisters' excellence as the main factor. Then another, as she attempted to blame boys for her situation, accidentally alerted the audience that she was a source not to be trusted. It seems that the boys taunting her did so because her breasts were too big. As a result, she got breast reduction surgery. She pointed out that boys don't like girls with large chests [and we don't like pizza either].
Next came a 16-year-old who has already "known" 8 boys. She confessed that the sex never felt good to her. Smith's message was enabling. She said, first off, that the girl was "not a slut." This was an attempt to instill her with free self-esteem which, everyone outside of education and television, is aware of being a bogus concept. I hearken back to Roger Scruton and long for a return to stigma. Labeling her what she is may sound harsh but it offers a better chance to alter future behavior. It also would foreshadow how she'll be viewed as an adult which would be of great service.
That irrationality can become a permanent lifestyle choice was evident after Oprah turned to a girl whose mother encouraged her to lose weight and exercise. It appears that mom's sound advice ravaged the young lady's self-esteem. The in-house psychologist criticized mom. She said not to "love her so much that way," meaning, I suppose, try to encourage her to make positive lifestyle adjustments. Why did the psychologist say that? Because she's a quack, that's why. There's nothing demeaning about informing the ignorant. Yet, it is rather humorous to consider what this young girl's performance in a future work place might be like:
Boss: "Hey, can you take on this project?"
Young Lady: "When you ask me to do things [torrent of tears] you make me feel like a slave."
Boss: "I'm sorry, ah, ah, isn't your job to complete this stuff?"
Young Lady: "I'm not here for you to boss around."
Boss: "You're not?"
Under the pretense of helping others, Oprah was able to get a little bragging in. She announced that the thing she liked best about herself was that she had a big heart. Later, she mentioned that as a child she knew she was smart and could "read anybody under the table." Personally, I doubt the veracity of any of such qualities. An intelligent person does not exude such an arrogant air in regards to every subject brought up.
Honestly though, this installment was most auspicious. I had no idea that so much negativity could be conveyed through a program purportedly about the Williams sisters. "The Oprah Winfrey Show" is far more virulent than I originally believed. It's beyond satire as a break even featured a commercial for, get ready for this, www.depressionhurts.com.
Well, let's take a look at the numbers:
Castration Index: 5—They tried to team the horses up to trample men but couldn't find their spurs.
Irresponsibilty Index: 8—Sure, most of these girls face unbelievable threats from society and their families. That they're not evident to the rest of us is due to our lack of sensitivity.
"It's all about me" Scale: 10—Has to be a 10 when the old lie, "you have to love yourself before you can love anybody else," is trotted out like a dying Soviet general for a May Day Parade.
Pity Promenade: 10—Another perfect score, oh how sad we feel for you going through adolescence. Can you imagine what it would be like if it happened to everyone? And without an audience to commiserate with?
Tune in tomorrow, I'll be back in hell.

Oprah 3: Into the "Mind" of an Oprah-atic.
By Bernard Chapin
I was about to begin Part 3 of our glorious MND Production, "Watching Oprah: My Venture to Hell," but had to postpone it for a day or so to tend to this matter. If you recall, our editor is quite enthused over the project and spared no expense by loaning me both a pencil and an eraser for the duration of my work. Now, that's not to say that he didn't have serious concerns originally though. He knew it would negate the possibilities of his ever being interviewed on the slathering O stage. He envisioned himself sitting before a large [don't you know it!] throng of limbic system junkies berating him about what a b*stard he was, and these thoughts made him fuzzy and safe. Mike even called me up on the phone to tell me just what my mouth was costing him: "You're ruining everything for me. I should have sold you to that Gypsy Weekly when I had the chance."
With this as background, one realizes how traumatized I was when an email from an Oprah worshipper came. Apparently, she doesn't appreciate my work, and, as a side note, it's a good bet that the gypsies wouldn't either. Oh well, for the purposes of instruction, fairness, and entertainment, I will reproduce her words in their entirety below. Of course, as you can imagine, my response will follow, but equal time is far better treatment than any of my enemies would give me. She begins by extending the fist of peace:
"Ok...please get a hobby! You obviously don't like Oprah - good for you. But
your over the top commentary and self-righteous attitude is hypocritical. You –
sir - are judgmental. You make Oprah out to be Jesus. She's just a woman with
a talk show. If you don't like her opinions, don't watch her. Why don't you go
after the 'King of all Media' - Howard Stern. Now there's a egomaniac. Oh,
that's right ... that's just an act. He's really the nicest, most humble person you'll
ever know. Stop being fooled.

Doofuss, Oprahs target audience is women! Do you get that! So, most of the
shows are going to be about issues that effect this audience. Go watch Spike TV!

Yes, I know this will just send you over the edge but I've got to say it: Oprah is
an inspiration. She came from nothing and made it! She's NOT pretty, blond or
skinny. And that's just kills you doesn't it~ How can someone who looks like
that - make it? And God forbid she inspires some women to get off their asses,
leave abusive men and stop making excuses for themselves. You'd rather see
someone who looks like Uma Thurman in that position - don't you! That would
make you feel more comfortable. Someone more all American. But gasp... the
nightmare continues - it's a fat, black woman who has some influence. That
scares you obviously. Hitler ...oops..... your biggest fear!

You keep harping on her ego. Beavis - we all have egos! Mother Theresa had
an ego. The Pope has an ego. Bill Gates - your hero - has an ego! When
have you NOT heard Bill Gates giving away large sums of money without a press
conference and a 'plug' about a new Microsoft product. What about Ted Turner
giving away 1 Billion dollars to the UN. That arrogant - 'mouth from the south'
told everybody and everybody's grandmother! He held several press conferences.
OK - what about 'The Donald': Donald Trump. The man you idolize. When is
this man NOT talking about himself. Why is it ok for Men to have egos?

Why can't a southern, educated black woman have an opinion and some ego.
Does it scare you that much? Is she really tearing the American public apart!
Please continue to watch Spike TV....."
Since you enjoyed my first two Oprah's so much I must tell you that a third will soon be on the way. First, however, I'll answer your email:

1. I have lots of hobbies; one of which is arguing with emotionacs on the written page. By doing so their fervor is negated and everyone sees how low functioning their ideas really are—without the continuous yips and howls.
2. I'm not self-righteous. Actually I'm rather self-deprecating.
3. I am judgmental. That's why God gave me a brain. Political correctness is unfitting in human beings, my advice for you is to judge everybody, just as you have me.
4. I don't want to ban Oprah. Keep her on so we can all make fun of her. It'll bring men and rational women together. Hey, it could end the war of the sexes. We'd all take turns doing stupid little emotive pet tricks to one another and yukking it up, and who knows, the nation's birthrate could skyrocket.
5. Howard Stern could well be egotistical but he certainly does not embrace lies and mindless emotion like Oprah. He doesn't indoctrinate either. He himself is part of the satire. Oprah's just the opposite. Check out the self-worshipping tone of her autobiography/biography online.
6. 2.4 million fools read O, The Oprah Magazine each month. Imagine! And no known Chernobyl ever occurred in the country either. There can be no sane explanation.
7. Just because your target audience is women does not give one an excuse to be racist, sexist, and a liar.
8. No one I know watches Spike TV and if they do they certainly aren't influenced by it. It's silly. It doesn't attempt to imply that only males are sexual abusers as her Wednesday program did. Besides, can you imagine a Spike TV booklist? Get real. Nobody would pay any attention. As men, we usually go our own way. Conformity is a sin.
9. I am not a dufus, which by the way, is the correct spelling of the word; although (he said without a drip of self-righteousness) I make a great many grammatical errors myself.
10. That women are the intended audience is exactly why the shows SHOULDN'T be all about them. Go out and learn something new. You don't need to focus on yourself. Study! Read! Labor! It's not all about you. Please consider my "It's all about me" index here. This is a great measure and may one day be incorporated into human resource exams. Remember the words of the U.N.C.F.: "A mind is a terrible thing to waste."
9. If Oprah's your inspiration, my sincere condolences. There is life after cults—in most cases.
10. Where did the race thing come from? I don't care about race but for you it seems to be very important. A person's skin pigmentation has nothing to do with their personality. You and I have far more in common than you do with a person living in Ghana or I do with a Romanian. Forget about race; it's so 1960. Treat people as individuals. There's no excuse for racism. As for your racial obsession, I don't care about the color of someone's hair. Only a sick racist thinks about things like blonde hair. Oprah's complexion is rather pleasing actually. In fact, she's 15 years older than me and looks 5 years younger. Amazing!
11. Where did the Hitler reference come from, Miss? Hitler…then racism, hmm, that's not a good sign, Miss. Do you know anything about history? Hitler killed, depending on how you define it, over 10 million people. He nearly exterminated one people and left his own people to die through his infamous, but never carried out, Nero Order. No contemporary American should ever be compared to Hitler. That's so ignorant. I don't like Jimmy Carter and I never have, but there's no reason to compare him to a mass murderer just because I don't like him.
12. Oprah fat? You're not much of a fan, she's not fat by any measure. She's quite lean.
13. Oprah encourages excuse making because then her flock can blame men rather than themselves—for everything. The male ego is much smaller than the female ego. That's why women mention it so much so we don't notice their's. When was the last time you saw a man cry or hate you for 10 years because of "the way you said something." Wake up.
14. I said Oprah was a megalomaniac. That's not the same as having an ego.
15. I do not, and never have, idolized Donald Trump. Are you feeling okay? Who are you talking to? Is that because I'm white that you think I like Donald Trump? Now really, who's the racist?
16. Oprah's a liar and an idiot, and yes, for any lawyers in the audience, that is simply my opinion. You're welcome to have yours. This is America. It's not like this is Revolutionary France. If you ask me, her program is for stupid people. It's not threatening. I think we should all just make fun of her together--as one.
17. Lastly Miss, your email address [it was some reference to her being #1]. You're not the first. You're simply another person in our grand United States. It's not all about you.
You have inspired me though. I dodged the program yesterday. I must remember my duty. A pity they're not aired over the weekend.
Oprah 4: My Venture into Hell.
By Bernard Chapin
My Cross to Bear IV: Drama, Blood, Drama, and Drama.
I believe it was Lady Galadriel who, in The Fellowship of the Ring, warned of a shadow descending in the West Loop on Carpenter Street. How prophetic were her words as the Oprah machine at its Harpo Studios continued to contaminate our public square today with a program focusing on two seriously disturbed young ladies. The episode told us much about the girls, mental illness, and not-so-secret biases of billionaire host.
Both of the girls, in the lowest of emotional states, agreed to be filmed keeping with our voyeuristic culture. They agreed to be filmed during the lowest parts of their time for a documentary called "Intervention" on A&E. Alyson likes crack. She was selected to be a White House intern 3 times and said you're not invited back unless you're really good Then they showed a picture of Clinton. Was I the only one who laughed? They show her steal drugs from her dying dad. Has to be the best built and attractive drug addict in history. Hey, "your sister's on drugs and you're not here for me." Had the cameras not been following her one wonders if she would have been doing it. Dad shows part of the problem by asking the therapist to "soft shoe her," just as she has been soft shoed her entire life.
White House Intern to crack addict.
What was immediately remarkable was that she couldn't wait to go. She happily goes into rehab and needs major "Valium for her trip." Her dad gives her more. She actually quit. has been clean for nine months and came on the show. Then her sister came out and cried. A camera turned to an audience member who was also crying. Oprah told them to her to "speak to her from your heart." The sister wrote her a letter that was spiteful I believe. It reminded me of the treaty Germany signed after the first World War about what a selfish plague the sister had been forever. I'm happy for the first time.
The show Tamela, who looked a bit like the late Wendy O'Williams. She turned to cutting which they flashed a stat that 2 million Americans cut themselves. A bogus statistic if there every was one. They show a clip of much cutting cutting It's quite graphic.
"I love to tease guys. It gives me power and control." Then she gets mad because as she's out teasing guys on the street dressed like Courtney Love she is called a whore by one of them."
She says, "I just wish somebody loved me."
A fragile mentally ill girl is not the stuff of Big TV so Oprah has to pretend that there's something "normal about her." I was molested as a child and now "I don't have the tools" to deal with life.
Grandma and three guys molested me. "Do you mean grandpa?" Oprah said, she couldn't believe that a non-male did the molesting.
She claims 50% of those who cut were sexually molested. Personally
She's really very pretentious. Listen to this sentence, "a problem of manifestation, a manifestation of molestation." Violent and angry they pretend that this could be anyone. They film her breaking doors and cutting. "I wish that somebody would love me." Masochism like the Anabel Chong movie. Belongs in a treatment facility. Went to treatment and showed up on the show. Stopped cutting six months before. Oprah as 1 out of 4 women have been molested, but Oprah thinks it's higher. Oprah cuts her off to talk about her. "I was a promiscuous teenager. I thought I was a bad girl."
These are lies of course. Anti-Christian can't "pray it away."
Shame, I had to discipline myself.
Results of therapy: "I'm not ashamed of anything." This program is virulent.
Two shows in, I now dislike Oprah 5 times more than I did before. You can see why these people are so ignorant as Oprah actually asks her to verbalize why she cuts herself which is absurd. Then she adds to making the girl feel unusual
Raised with religion "religion did not help you." "My relationship with God is personal and can't be anybody else's." Oprah said, "That is true." How does she know? Because she is the devine. Very judgmental of parents but who has she raised. "Do you see what an enabler you were now?" That the numbers of sexual abuse are declining.
Watching Oprah 4: My Venture to Hell.
By Bernard Chapin
Older women who say talk shows and soap operas are their favorite TV programs tend to score more poorly on tests of memory, attention and other cognitive skills, researchers reported Monday.
The long strange trip with Oprah continues and today we enter the world of American poverty. Apparently, many of us, the host exempted, "are only two paychecks" away from becoming paupers. As a means of illuminating the nation's difficulties, she recruited some primetime journos such as Maria Shriver and Anderson Cooper. They helped uncover "our country's dirty little secret" which is that "37 million live in poverty right now." Actually, it's not a secret at all. It's published information easily obtained via a government website. Why is it dirty? I guess it's dirty because there aren't enough of us moping over it at present. That it doesn't monopolize daily conversation hurts Oprah mightily. Income disparity cannot be a natural feature of diverse societies. It must be somebody's fault just like natural disasters or things which make us feel uncomfortable.
Of course, blaming people for the fate of those they haven't met and likely never will is ridiculous. The obsession of high society types with the poor usually has nothing to do with a desire to better them. It is more to do with creating an avenue wherein they can be self-righteous and look down on others. They point to the homeless, and shake their head in our general direction: "Oh shame, oh shame, why don't we help those whom society has forsaken?" Their stance is just a pose. There's no reason to feel guilt or shame regarding activities or situations of which you've never been a part. The proper response is sympathy, and a desire to problem solve. Negative emotions are counter-productive. If someone really cares about person A then they'll look at him as an individual and not as a means of extracting vengeance from person C.
The practice of marshalling emotions to cast stigma upon others is exactly why a select number of sane men and women should watch shows like this. Reporting our findings back to non-watchers, who mostly regard daytime slop as merely goofy, allows them to realize just how harmful this bit of entertainment really is. More columns should be written. The admiration with which Oprah is drenched has caused her, in my humble opinion, to speak without a filter. One of the statements she made today was bizarre: "This country lives on depression medication." Actually, our nation doesn't. That her audience does is quite possible as I saw a commercial for www.depressionhurts.com during one of the episodes. Concerning the prevalence of depression, one source stated that, during a single year, 9.5 percent of the population suffers from some form of depression, but that, "[m]ost people with a depressive illness do not seek treatment… "
The statistics which are constantly made use of and, at least during this episode, never referenced are something the host would do well to be depressed over herself. To make use of statistics without representation is to propagandize, not enlighten. This is particularly true in regards to poverty as all sorts of statistics are mentioned. The first one about the 37 million was legitimate and a direct reflection of Census figures. One happy result of the Census data is that it showcases black Americans overall being middle class or better. Only 24.7 percent are classified as poor. Oprah implies that poverty is an ethnic problem, as one statistic mentioned claimed that 63 percent of minority children are poor, but we definitely know that race has nothing to do with it as more whites are poor than Asians in our country.
Yet, like a Willie Nelson song, race is always on her mind. With a wry __expression, Oprah asks Cooper, in regards to those dispossessed by Hurricane Katrina, about whether the official response would have been any different had those suffering been wealthy white Americans. The famous reporter tells her that that is a valuable question to ask. She insists on a less diplomatic answer. The most he'll say is, "In some ways." A better question to ask is, "What would the response have been like had the victims been wealthy celebrities like Oprah?" We know the compassion she directed towards sales clerks in Hermes, so imagine how she'd react after one of her carpets got damaged. It's easy to make light of lightweight analysis, but the constant way that the media pretends white Americans are privileged is absurd. Asian's are richer than whites and have lower rates of incarceration, so, for her statement to be true, she'd have to direct it towards those of Asian extraction (which would still be madness, but it would be a less politically correct form of madness; hence, she'd never do it).
As for single mothers, we hear that 42 percent are at or below the poverty level. In fact, the Census number is 30.5 percent. Is an 11.5 percent exaggeration acceptable? Maybe we should look the other way. After all, it's not as if she has any employees on hand to do the type of research I just did in five minutes. For married couples, the poverty rate is only 6.4 percent. Perhaps marriage—one outside the auspices of the state would be ideal—is the solution to the problem. Oprah would never consider a fascistic truth like that though. To make such a connection is anti-woman. When she runs for president in a few years, a possible campaign slogan might be, "For every woman, unlimited choices with unlimited consequences!"
For this topic, Oprah went out in person, and, yet again, a guest began crying at the sight of her. Oprah quotes noted demographic researcher, Chris Rock, when he stated that the poor only get one chance in life, and, should they make a mistake, it's over forever. Actually, that's not even remotely true. Even an interviewee with a house lacking running water has hope for the future. She even had a job interview scheduled for the following week even though Oprah claimed in her introduction that there was no possible employment for any of the residents.
The implied, "I'm better, more compassionate, and caring," nature of her mission became evident when the daytime sorceress asked, "Now that you've seen the poor around this country, why should you care?" This is a most obnoxious thing to say as it suggests that most of us are below empathizing with the misfortunes of others. Here she attempts to illustrate her goodness, and the lack of it in everyone else. The very reason she organized the show around poverty was that, after the news coverage subsided, she "was afraid everybody would move on." Saint Oprah will remember and be our conscious; the Noam Chomsky of TV.
Fans of reason would have been greatly disappointed as, by the end, no solutions are offered. The only thing remotely resembling one is Oprah informing us that most of her foundation money goes into education as this is the way out of poverty. This is true to some extent, but since the families highlighted all have access to a free public education it's hard to see it as a panacea. Therefore, let your narrator step into the solutions void here. I'd like to see us go beyond school vouchers which favor home owners who are generally the non-poor. As an enhancement to vouchers alone, I'd like to see parents given the right to make use of the per pupil costs in their district and apply it towards the tuition of whatever school they wish. This will empower the poor with a means to provide their offspring with the best America has to offer. Of course, that I didn't spend thirty minutes emoting before offering up my solution clearly undermines its worth.
The final exchange with Cooper and the host was quite enlightening. The reporter informs her that it's essential for journalists to have "an open heart." Oprah loves him for this quality and says, "That's why I'm watching CNN." Actually, telling the truth is what's essential for a reporter. Their hearts are irrelevant which is exactly why I don't watch CNN and can't wait to turn this prima donna off once my penance is over.
Watching Oprah: My Venture to Hell, Part II.
By Bernard Chapin
Today's episode was split, and the first half featured an interview with glamorous pop star, Beyonce. In case your tastes aren't the same as Mike LaSalle, MND editor and full time Destiny's Child groupie 1, she is the poetic genius behind hits like, "Jumpin Jumpin," "Bootylicious," "Nasty Girl," and "Independent Women." Yet fashion, not music, was the focus.
Oprah began by questioning her guest about the apparel she wears to big time galas. Gigantic pictures of Beyonce were projected on a wall beyond the stage as they spoke. The diva shared tales of gowns, paparazzi, and material while the audience oohed at the appropriate junctures. Her mother was then brought forth. It quickly became apparent that the reason they were there was to promote their new clothing line. A not so impromptu fashion show commenced. Models and catwalks appeared. The last two models in the rotation were her former band mates from Destiny's Child. To my untrained eye, the new spring line appears to have Daisy Duke, Victoria's Secret, and Walton Family influences.
Oprah proceeded to pull a Mike Wallace and asked the questions all us soul searching types wanted to know like, "What do you splurge on?" From there, it shifted to the controversial subject of jeans. I hit the record button, there no way was I going to let this heady stuff slip through the memory hole. Beyonce has the amount already set for her jeans. They start at the "very reasonable" price of $118.00. The topic seemed to titillate Oprah. She loved the fact that these jeans were for women with "boo-tay." Oprah warned her constituency though, the "Size 29s," that they should not wear these revealing clothes out and about. She laughed heartily. In her present day skinny state, I hope that no charges of fatism are levied against her. To further heighten the fashion induced euphoria, Oprah gave to the audience a gift of free jeans. The crowd went gaga. Jealousy overtook me.
Of course we all know that Woman cannot live by couture alone. The great entrepreneur then turned to mother and daughter, and asked Beyonce to tell the world what her mom meant to her.
Lights, Camera, EMOTION!
Ms. Knowles proceeded to state that her mother was the best one in the entire world while the audience hummed its approval. Tears flowed from both guests. It was a stirring moment…provided you're a total idiot.
I do have to admit that there was one redeeming element to the segment, however, as Oprah actually admitted, "I can't imagine what it's like to be a mother figure." I couldn't agree more. Now when will American mothers get with the program and turn her off?
The second segment was an infomercial for her new play based on The Color Purple. It's headed for Broadway, and guess who's producing it? That's right, Oprah, the fatcat billionaire down the street from me. The camera framed Quincy Jones who sat expressionlessly in the audience as Oprah went on and on about her experiences on the set of the film. Apparently, reading the book changed her life, and, unbelievably, she was lucky enough to land a part in the film. She then let roll a clip from the film centering on, you guessed it, her character. While it ran, audience members repeated her lines word for word, as did Oprah. Then, to further illustrate the way she changes lives, she showed a clip of white man paying homage to her in Texas. It seems that years ago the fellow spontaneously decided to recite her movie speech in answer to a question on her show. The irony is that the clip features an Oprah physiologically incompatible with the lean, mileage free machine we have before us everyday at 11 pm.
Apparently, shameless self-adulation from both speech and film was not enough for her. The host got out a diary she kept while working on the shoot. Oprah read from it and exclaimed, "Everything from 'The Color Purple' feels like love to me." What does such a clichéd claptrap sentence mean? Nothing. How anyone can be influenced by such a person is beyond my comprehension. The more familiar with her I become, the more I regard her bravado and attitude as being a function of pervasive insecurity and unintelligence. She keeps the playing field forever imbalanced by contaminating it with hackneyed emotion and sentimental schlock. Without it, she'd be just another person who liked to hear her own voice.
Just when one couldn't think the narcissism could be projected any more flamboyantly, Oprah decided to surprise the cast from "The Color Purple" musical with her presence; a cast which is subordinate to her. They greeted her in a manner similar to the way Lincoln must have been received in Richmond by the freedmen. She decided not to mention the clear-cut conflict of interest that she, as its producer, had, and went on to encourage the studio audience to go out and see her "Broadway baby." Then, the cast appeared so they could enact her favorite scene. Yes, the same scene we already saw on film except this time twenty women were a part of it. They danced around urging that "Hell No" should be the response when any man tries to touch them in a threatening manner. "Hell No" was sung and repeated endlessly. It was an artistic low matched only by soap operas. One woman even had a shotgun with her to defend against men—hey, I thought violence never solved anything?
We find that Oprah views "The Color Purple" as being divine. Why? Because she is a representative of the divine on earth and she thinks that it is so there's little to discuss about the topic. Obviously, this is preposterous though. To pretend that "The Color Purple," as a film, has the value of "The Godfather or "A Room with a View" is a non-sequitur. It can't even stand up to the likes of "Spies like Us" let alone any of the grand cinemagraphic monuments. Recall what the mind of its author, Alice Walker, is like. She is a writer completely unfamiliar with human nature. Despite the shotgun display in the aforementioned musical segment, she believes that the following approach would work best with Osama Bin Laden:
But what would happen to his cool armor if he could be reminded of all
the good, nonviolent things he has done? Further, what would happen to
him if he could be brought to understand the preciousness of the lives he
has destroyed? I firmly believe the only punishment that works is love.
What would this country be like if people like Walker had political power? Quite honestly, they already do in certain locales. Should a few more get elected, her kind won't have a nation to criticize for much longer.
The show ended with everyone singing the theme song from "The Color Purple." The camera panned to Oprah. She was crying as she sang just as if the media refused to cover a trip to Hermes. Honestly, this program is so contrived and heavy-handed that I wouldn't have been surprised if credits for the "Jew Suss" rolled at the end.
That Oprah is a megalomaniac is presumed, but that she is scamming her gullible audience appears undeniable. In her life she has caused considerable damage to her followers as a result of peddling what "feels good" rather than what is true, but here we must add economic exploitation to her long list of malpractices. All of this leads me to an important question. If women are so easily fooled by this self-serving charlatan, then why do we as a society pretend that women have superior intuition to men? Don't expect an answer anytime soon.
Today I'm going to have to add a new subscale to our measurements.
Corruption Index: 10—Boss Tweed has entered the building.
Castration Index: 5—Honestly, I'd give the first half hour a zero. The Beyonce segment was fine. The second half was a musical advertisement for sisters to band together against the horror of men—inspired, that's right, by a work by a lesbian.
Irresponsibilty Index: 0—It just wasn't an issue.
"It's all about me" Scale: 10—Well, it was all about Oprah, but, as far as women in general go, it was pretty much your standard, "embrace the meaningless, frivolous things in life" production.
Pity Promenade: 0—Emotion Promenade? Yes. Pity? No.
Wow, a lower offensiveness rating; credit Beyone for the happy result. In the words of Sarah McLachlan, we're "building a mystery." As for tomorrow, yes, more hell will follow.

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According to Oprah Winfrey's introduction page on the world-wide-web, the Oprah Winfrey Show is the highest-rated talk show in television history, seen by 15-20 million viewers each day in the U.S. in 205 television markets, and in 132 countries. In fact, it has been the number one talk show for 12 consecutive seasons. Since it's beginning in 1986 it has received 32 Emmy awards.

In 1996, Oprah began Oprah's Book Club designed to get America reading again. Each of the books selected has become an instant bestseller averaging sales of over 1 million copies each.

In 1997, Oprah was named Newsweek's "Most Important Person" in books and media, T.V. Guide's "Television Performer of the Year," the People's Choice Award for "Favorite Television Performer," and in 1996, Time Magazine recognized Oprah as one of America's "25 Most Influential People."

Tragically, America is almost obsessed with celebrity idol worship. Recent Gallup polls demonstrated how true this is when it asked Americans to list and rank the most influential women in recorded history. Oprah Winfrey ranked fourth! There is a common recognizable refrain that "When Oprah speaks, people listen."

However, the primary issue here is not that Americans tend to look to media celebrities as role models, although these people lead probably some of the least ideal lives to emulate. The issue before us is the steady stream of messages and advice that Oprah and her favorite guests communicate to the millions of people who are starved for meaning and purpose in life.

Clearly, Oprah Winfrey has been converted into the New Age Movement. And one of the biggest deceptions is that she apparently doesn't know it. Many of her favorite guests are major New Age proponents and authors, and Oprah contributes to the enormous popularity and sales of their books.

Some of these New Age guests (and a number of them make repeat appearances) are, Marianne Williamson, Barbara DeAngelis, LaVar Burton, Richard Carlson, Betty Eadie, Dannion Brinkley, M. Scott Peck, Sophy Burnham, Marilyn Ferguson, Kevin Ryerson, Shirley MacLaine, Sara Breathnach, James Hillman, and psychic medium and best-selling author, James Van Praagh.

Oprah is on a mission. Repeatedly stated, her "mission" is, "I want people to see things on our show that makes them think differently about their lives...To be a light for people. To make a difference...to open their minds and see things differently…how to get in touch with the spiritual part of their life." Unfortunately, the "light" Oprah offers is the "angel of light" (2 Corinthians 11:14), and "opening their minds," in this case means their brains fall out-they become empty headed (Romans 1:21-25).

Oprah was raised in a black Baptist church in Mississippi. It is not known whether she had a healthy exposure to Christianity or a distorted one, but she is clearly in the process of deconstructing Christianity and reframing it into a New Age perspective.

One of the most revealing examples was a recent show with guests Betty Eadie, (new age/Mormon author of Embraced By The Light and The Awakening Heart), Dannion Brinkley (new age author of near death experience books Saved By The Light, and At Peace With in the Light) and Sophy Burnham (new age author of A Book of Angels and Angel Letters).

During the show Oprah related, "I was raised a Baptist and we were too hung up on traditional ways. I was sitting in church and heard that God is a jealous God. I asked 'Why?' Come on-let's get over it!" She related a "jealous God" to an insecure God.

In the program Oprah revealed that she doesn't think God is hung up on what you believe about God-whatever that "force" is, it doesn't care what you call it. He doesn't have an ego problem. She states, "I believe in the FORCE-I call it God." She also said if you believe in a rhythm of nature and in love, then you believe in God.

Oprah, in typical New Age fashion, has reduced God to human limitations, and dismisses objective absolutes, substituting emotions as the criteria of truth. This constant refrain of a nebulous concept of love as a guiding principle is very deceptive.

God warns us that the heart is very deceptive (Jeremiah 17:9, Proverbs 12:20). Jesus warns that the heart is an untrustworthy guide for truth, especially the "uncircumcised" heart (Matthew 12:33-35, 15:18,19). New Agers have raised the level of feelings or emotions (intuition) as a navigator beyond all rational proportions.

Particularly instructive for us all is the fact that Oprah doesn't seem to be aware that she has been seduced deeply into the New Age world-view. We say instructive because one could relate to the subtle and deceptive processes that Oprah appears to have fallen prey to.

On one recent show a Christian in the audience challenged Oprah about being a "New Ager." Oprah responded, "I am not new age anything and I resent being called that. I am just trying to open a door so that people can see themselves more clearly and perhaps be the light to get them to God, whatever they may call that. I don't see spirits in the trees and I don't sit in the room with crystals."

Oprah has made the mistake of narrowly defining the New Age Movement. However, read the following beliefs expressed by Oprah over the last few years.

Oprah's close friend and sometimes guest, Shirley MacLaine described on a show how to meditate, going inside yourself, asking your own "intuitive Self" to seek answers to life's questions. Oprah responds, "You know, that is the same as the Bible says, 'Ask and it shall be given, seek and ye shall find'." Shirley confirms.

Oprah then asks Shirley, "When you connected to the higher Self...knowing that you can do anything that you want to do-is it what other people describe as being 'born again'?" Shirley nods, "Yes, probably."

It is amazing that so few people catch the duplicity of New Agers when they attack the authority and trustworthiness of the Bible and the Christian church, but then quote it-almost always out of context-or twist it so support their position. For example, Oprah had as her guests a New Age panel consisting of Don Curtis (a Unity minister and trance-channeler), Kevin Reyerson (Shirley MacLaine's channeler), and Marilyn Ferguson (New Age leader and author of The Aquarian Conspiracy. After comparing the evolution of the New Age Movement in our culture with the "new understanding" advent of the Protestant Reformation, Oprah states, "As I read more of Shirley MacLaine, crystals, and The Aquarian Conspiracy, it seems to me to say what the Bible has said for years. It is just that many of us were brought up with a more restricted, limited vision of what the Bible said."

(The Christian should require Oprah or other New Ager to explain on what basis they reject the clear historical communication in literary forms of the Bible in lieu of their very subjective, esoteric, surrealistic interpretations).

Don Curtis responds that the problem comes from "the literal interpretation within denominationalism, because no one really knows, (apparently no one but Mr. Curtis) through the filter of translation down through the ages, what the Bible really says...most of it and reincarnation was thrown out in 325 A.D. at the Council of Nicea." Oprah responds, "Right."

When this kind of pseudo-scholarship goes unchallenged the effect can be serious. How many non-Christians or even Christians are knowledgeable of church history, the early church councils and the science of Biblical textural criticism which through tedious research and archeology has allowed us to see how accurate and preserved the Bible is? Very few; and certainly not Oprah.

Oprah also related that, "One of the most important books I've read is Eric Buttterworth's (a New Age Unity leader) Discover the Power Within You. In it he said "Jesus did not come to teach us how divine He was but to teach that divinity was within us." Later she said that "It (claiming exclusive Divinity) would make Jesus the biggest egotist that ever lived."

On the recent show with new age panel Betty Eadie, Sophy Burnham, and Dannion Brinkley, Oprah positively alluded to the book Joshua by Ishmael, stating in summary, "..that one of the biggest mistakes humans make is to believe that there is only one way. Actually, there are many diverse paths leading to what you call God."

When corrected by a Christian in the audience that Jesus said He was the only Way, the panel lost their composure, coming unglued. Oprah reacted, "There couldn't possibly be only one way...Does God care about your heart or whether you called His Son Jesus?"

Oprah's consistent theme is to inspire people to take control of their lives, to not be controlled by others or by circumstances. She is always advising "You can choose what happens." While there is some truth and value to this philosophy it is fatally tied to the New Age philosophy. As Oprah states, "You are responsible for your life-the power of God is within you [whether you are a Christian or not], above you and through you. You control your life."

What this fails to acknowledge is that man does not define reality; man does not determine what truth is. The source of truth for our decisions and power is the one true God of all reality and He has communicated plenary propositional truths to us in the Bible and remarkably, uniquely in His incarnation in Jesus Christ.

Oprah, as with other New Agers, is not in pursuit and in communion with God but is in pursuit with the "image of God"-by elevating man to Divinity. The problem with this is the God of the universe has not called us to join ourselves to the creation but to Himself, "the Creator who is blessed forever" (Romans 1:25).
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Oprah Winfrey
By Jason Kovar
Acceptance to New Age ideas have gushed forth into peoples living rooms via television shows and motion pictures for decades, and society is quickly warming up to them. In objection to God's Word, Satan is deceiving the world with empty promises of heaven and peppering them for the wrath of God that is to be revealed on the sons of disobedience.

Perhaps no example of such a pawn of disobedience is better than Oprah Winfrey. Life magazine called Oprah "The Most Powerful Woman in America." Biography magazine included her in the list of the "25 Most Powerful Women in America." A one-woman entertainment empire, her influence extends around the world. Time magazine named her as one of the most important people of the century, writing: "Winfrey stands as a beacon, not only in the worlds of media and entertainment but also on the larger realm of public discourse." She is trumpeted as a model over comer for millions around the world because of her alacrity to pull herself up by her bootstraps. But this is not the complete story, as we shall see.

Known as "The Queen of the Talk Shows," Oprah Winfrey could also be called the Queen of the New Age. Her ideological presentations and touching emotional displays have catapulted her show into the public's consciousness year after year. Because of her immense swaying power and ability to appear before millions every day without fail, Oprah Winfrey is spiritually one of the most dangerous women on the face of the planet. Oprah has admitted to coming into contact with what is called the Universal Hum. Roseanne, also a New Ager, has admitted to an initiation into this hum and occultist Jimmy Page wrote in his song Stairway to Heaven that, "Your head is humming and it won't go in case you don't know." Page admits that Stairway, the most popular song ever in America, was given to him by the spirit world via automatic writing. Others who have had contact with the occult attest to a sinister type of ringing or humming that lulls the mind and body in preparation for advanced occult indoctrination.

Oprah claims that once she broke into the other side, she encountered the sense of empowerment she sought for. This insidious pursuit of empowerment has led to selling her soul to demonic spirits for ingenious perpetration and temporal gain. Blatantly honest about her reliance on the spirit realm, Winfrey has said:

"I ask God for grace, and the power of the spirits....Calling on you. Calling on you...I really believe I can call her up. Her and so many others. I'm counting on them"

Satan is counting on her too.

What is Oprah's purpose? She reveals the focus of her work to be geared for the directing of the masses. She states:

"The gist being how do people lead their lives? How can we help them do it better? In every aspect of their lives, how can we lead them to their truth? First we must be led to our own. Who are we? What do we stand for? What do we believe?" (Beloved'98p135)

Craftily scheming to pinpoint how people live their lives, the heavy guns of her work are aimed directly at the mainstream public, at you. Jesus said: "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and that no man comes to the Father but through Me." Contrary to Jesus Christ, Oprah wants to lead people away from the central truths she claims are her roots to false hopes which will not grant entrance into heaven. Oprah believes in using her life as a puppet for Satan's ruthless assault on mankind, and is subsequently leading people into the fires of hell empowered by demonic forces. In fact, Oprah takes her marching orders for her entertainment empire directly from the spirit world. Time magazine wrote of these spirit guides:

"Oprah Winfrey calls these her 'go there' moments, spiritual episodes of divine guidance that far transcend the chatty exchanges with her studio audiences- Sometimes the epiphanies carry the voices of Negro slaves-Joe and Emily and Dara; Sue and Bess and Sara. Winfrey says that she has come to know each of them personally and calls them in at will to guide her in her work. The spirits began visiting her a few years ago..."

All of the world's heralding of Oprah's great successes is little more than a surrendered compliance to governance by demonic spirits. These spirits are using her to construct the new theological mindset of the masses, ministering their doctrines of demons to society. Apropos, Oprah has always referred to her show as a "ministry." Subverting Christian values through the support of a New Age forum of all types, this change-agent is taking direct aim at ushering in the New Age practices into the hearts of the world, formatting her talk show as "change your life television."

Satan's primary target is the assault upon God's Word. By dismissing Scriptural facts for feelings, the satanic agenda moves people from the truth to that of emotional feeling. Feelings are powerful winds of change and Satan is pawning Oprah as a catalyst toward a feelings oriented culture. This principle has been used effectively in occult societies to convert initiates for centuries. Via her demonic inspiration, Oprah is using the same methodology of occult societies to supplant truth with emotion by teaching that: "the path to self awareness is what you feel, not what you think." A life simply governed by feelings would quickly fall prey to the broad path that Jesus warned would be followed by many. Satan has definitely found a real nugget in this occult evangelist, as Oprah's show is little more than a soapbox for her preachy sermons that send out her broad nets for the unsuspecting soul.

Oprah has done many charitable things and is always at the forefront of doing righteous deeds on behalf of others. This should be of no great surprise as the Scriptures tell us that:

"Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve." (2 Corinthians 11: 14-15)

Satan knows that he cannot reveal himself in all his evil as a fallen angel bound for eternal hellfire and still expect the world to willingly follow him. Therefore it is imperative that he belies the world with acts of "righteousness" so that he can appear to be something wonderful to those he seeks to deceive. Through demon possession, Satan can be very persuasive and debonair, all the while laughing at his subtle victories over those who refuse to comply with the protection God offers. Oprah freely confesses to demonic possession as a tool to enhance her influencing performances before the camera. She said:

"I tried to empty myself and let the spirit of Sethe inhabit me...Every morning, before my scenes, I lit candles and said the names of these slaves. I prayed every day to the ancestors."

Oprah's motion picture, Beloved, gives an account of a woman who is haunted by the spirit of her dead daughter; which is a Biblically condemned story that advocates communication with the dead. Expressing her strong agreement to cinematically express such themes, Oprah recalls her conversation with Beloved's author Toni Morrison. She stated:

"I told her I'd just read the book and what it meant to me and how I felt so strongly that the world needed to hear this story, and the way to do it was through film."

Oprah sought after demonic possession in order to elicit a superior acting performance whereby she might gain a greater influence over her viewers. Beloved's Director, Jonathon Demme, who is also the director of The Silence of the Lambs, recalled:

"Oprah had explained to me when we originally met that it was her goal and intention to channel the spirit of Margaret Garner...This very infusion of humanity past accounts to a significant degree for Oprah's stunning alchemy, her astonishing abandonment of self in her Beloved performance."

Oscar nominated M. Night Shyamalan, directed The Sixth Sense, a movie that wholeheartedly propagated communication with the dead. In reference to his movies ability to open people up to the occult traditions of mediumship with spirits, Shyamalan has acknowledged the educating capability of film, stating: "Film can be a version of faith. You learn to believe." People learn to believe through film because the makers of film are teaching them to do so. One hundred years ago, anything taught in the dark was considered to be immoral and embarrassingly unworthy of being proclaimed in the open. Today, we have a whole generation of people who are going to school and learning evil from films in dark movie theatres. The Scriptures instruct us contrary so as not to be caught unaware:

"But you, brothers, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief. You are all sons of the light and sons of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness. So then, let us not be like others, who are asleep, but let us be alert and self-controlled. For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk, get drunk at night. But since we belong to the day, let us be self-controlled, putting on faith and love as a breastplate, and the hope of salvation as a helmet." (1 Thessalonians 5:4-8)

Oprah's demonic submissions spit in the face of the Creator of the universe. Jesus Christ died for you, was buried and rose again on the third day, and calls you to repentance. His Law condemns you and unless you receive His grace you are doomed. He wants to save you. He even wants to save Oprah Winfrey, but her refusal and status as a bondservant of Satan will not allow it; He will not force anyone to follow Him. Romans 2:5-8 deals with the "Oprah's" who continue to proudly reject God's grace:

Follow Jesus and be wise in this life. Turn from any sin in your life and receive the forgiveness that he offers. His hand is extended out toward you, you just have to humble yourself and accept His mercy. If you have already done so, guard yourself and your family from the evil influences all around and allow no evil thing to be before your eyes. Satan is playing for keeps and desires to drag as many as possible into eternal hellfire with Him. We must resist him by standing fast in the faith so that the victory will be ours and so we might hear Him say, "Well done good and faithful servant, enter into the joy of the Lord."
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Oprah Winfrey
By Jason Kovar
Acceptance to New Age ideas have gushed forth into peoples living rooms via television shows and motion pictures for decades, and society is quickly warming up to them. In objection to God's Word, Satan is deceiving the world with empty promises of heaven and peppering them for the wrath of God that is to be revealed on the sons of disobedience.

Satan's primary target is the assault upon God's Word. By dismissing Scriptural facts for feelings, the satanic agenda moves people from the truth to that of emotional feeling. Feelings are powerful winds of change and Satan is pawning Oprah as a catalyst toward a feelings oriented culture. This principle has been used effectively in occult societies to convert initiates for centuries. Via her demonic inspiration, Oprah is using the same methodology of occult societies to supplant truth with emotion by teaching that: "the path to self awareness is what you feel, not what you think." A life simply governed by feelings would quickly fall prey to the broad path that Jesus warned would be followed by many. Satan has definitely found a real nugget in this occult evangelist, as Oprah's show is little more than a soapbox for her preachy sermons that send out her broad nets for the unsuspecting soul.

"Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve." (2 Corinthians 11: 14-15)

"But you, brothers, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief. You are all sons of the light and sons of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness. So then, let us not be like others, who are asleep, but let us be alert and self-controlled. For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk, get drunk at night. But since we belong to the day, let us be self-controlled, putting on faith and love as a breastplate, and the hope of salvation as a helmet." (1 Thessalonians 5:4-8)

Follow Jesus and be wise in this life. Turn from any sin in your life and receive the forgiveness that he offers. His hand is extended out toward you, you just have to humble yourself and accept His mercy. If you have already done so, guard yourself and your family from the evil influences all around and allow no evil thing to be before your eyes. Satan is playing for keeps and desires to drag as many as possible into eternal hellfire with Him. We must resist him by standing fast in the faith so that the victory will be ours and so we might hear Him say, "Well done good and faithful servant, enter into the joy of the Lord."
We've all heard that money is the root of all evil. Like bullets, money is useless without the
intervention of the "free will" of all humankind.

Compare the different versions of the following passages. I think this says it all...

King James Version:

Isaiah 14:12
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

New International Version:

Isaiah 14:12
How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!

(The NIV has changed the Christ reference "morning star" to that of "Lucifer")


King James Version:

Psalm 118:22
The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner.

Matthew 21:42
Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

Mark 12:10
And have ye not read this scripture; The stone which the builders rejected is become the head of the corner:

Luke 20:17
And he beheld them, and said, What is this then that is written, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner?

Acts 4:11
This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.

1 Peter 2:6
Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

New International Version:

Psalm 118:22
The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone;

Matthew 21:42
Jesus said to them, "Have you never read in the Scriptures: " 'The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone ; the Lord has done this, and it is marvelous in our eyes' ?

Mark 12:10
Haven't you read this scripture: " 'The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone ;

Luke 20:17
Jesus looked directly at them and asked, "Then what is the meaning of that which is written: " 'The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone ' ?

Acts 4:11
He is " 'the stone you builders rejected, which has become the capstone. '

1 Peter 2:7
Now to you who believe, this stone is precious. But to those who do not believe, "The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone, "

(The NIV has changed the Christ reference "corner stone" to "capstone")

Let's put two and two together and see what we get...

The use of the word "corner stone" (an indispensable and fundamental basis) which is a reference to "Jesus" is referred to as the "capstone" (the crowning achievement or final stroke)
and "morning star" which is a reference to "Jesus" is handed over to "Lucifer" (light bearer/bringer) and in the "New International Version" of the Bible.

Capstone + Illumination = ________________

Perhaps money IS the root of all evil! 8-)
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I am a woman of a 'certain age'. I detest Oprah and watched her show exactly one time, and one time only. That was about 1997 when she had Paul McCartney on.

To me she's just another phoney media creation. I guess she has talent enough to talk to people--well, women people--and make them think she gives a crock. There's some talent there, a modicum of intelligence but nothing special.

What can I say. A society gets what it deserves.
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Oprah is an entertainer, not a news person. She is in business to become rich. She is very good at what she does, as her revenues show.

She lost a certain portion of her audience when she became a political shill. She has not gotten that part of her audience back, and i doubt if she will.

Just like, in the 1960's, the Smothers Brothers went from very popular to pariahs when they became politically radical, Oprah has to be careful that she doesn't go too far.

I loved the Smothers Brothers, but I didn't find them to be funny when they began to spout their political radicalism on every show. If Oprah goes that way, she will also lose her audience.

Oprah has no more relevance to the United States than any other popular entertainer. She can lose that popularity very quickly, and if she does, then she will have no relevance at all.
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