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Old 02-26-2005, 07:59 PM
rushdoony rushdoony is offline
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From: "Amnon Goldberg"
Subject: Scientific Mafiosi

An interesting article "Persecution in the name of science" from the
Orthodox Jewish newspaper "Yated Ne'eman"
The handling of Richard Sternberg by the scientific establishment
has been mild compared to some of his predecessors.

There exists an academic and media mafiosi which attempts to
discourage, suppress, ostracise, threaten, and demote individuals
who even start to show an interest in "heterodox ideas".

Organised pressure groups, chicanery, sharp practice, and jealous
histrionics abound in the "altruistic" Scientific Establishment,
geared to prevent and discredit any research and experimentation
that threatens the establishment "status quo" or is against
"informed opinion", especially in the area of today's three "sacred
cows" of Evolution, Relativity and Heliocentricity.

Any doubters or nay-sayers are lambasted with epithets like "dupe",
"heresy", "shameful", "disgraceful", "pseudo-scientific
"fog of nonsense", "red herrings", "shallow", "starry-eyed
fundamentalism", "extreme", "lack of balance, "dogmatic",
"hysterical", "far fetched", "ignorant", "of no help to anyone",
"height of presumption".

When even President Reagan in 1984 dared to express his doubts in
the theory of evolution, public questions were raised as to his

Researchers like Immanuel Velikovsky (catastrophist), Halton Arp
(anti-Big Bang), Stefan Marinov (anti-Relativist), Pons and
Fleischmann (cold fusion), Robert Gentry (pleochroic haloes),
Richard Milton (anti-evolution), Barry Setterfield (decrease in
speed of light), Eric Braithwate (free energy), Walter van der Kamp
(geocentrist) etc., have been shown to have strong cases, or even
be substantially correct. Yet they were all initially greeted with
epithets like "stupid", "drivel", "loony", "harmless fruitcake",
need of psychiatric help" etc., and conspiratorial attempts at the
highest levels were made to silence them, ban their publications,
restrict their access to laboratories, deny them telescope time
in blatant disrespect of the pursuit of novel human knowledge.

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Old 03-03-2005, 03:32 AM
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Think about what it is you propose. When it comes down to the nitty gritty, you believe that there was nothing, but when there was nothing there was Something, and this Something created anything and everthing. And this anything and everything is ordered as the Something commanded, which means our globe is suspended motionless within another far larger sphere, but our sphere is the center of the larger sphere, and all revolves around our sphere.

Doesn't this sound like "crazy" talk? Yes it does, and I am one of those "crazy" folks. The geostatic model of the universe is again taking its place among the Truths of Our Creator's Divine revelation.

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Old 03-03-2005, 03:57 AM
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Ah...all is revealed.

I'll just file you away in the appropriate box TN.
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Old 05-15-2005, 07:56 PM
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A "Conspiracy" to label "Conspiracy Theorists" as crackpots and loonies!!

Hasn't this always been their MO?

Oppose their official report on ANYTHING, provide alternate theories, accuse them of LYING, covering their tracks, conspiring, killing JFK, etc., etc., etc. and you are a CRACKPOT!!

GAWD forbid if you PROPOSE that the "rogue" CIA is a force behind it all, you are.........



Cause, afterall, the CIA provided intelligence to an element of the "rogue" CIA regarding an "imminent threat of danger" of a terrrorist attack on American soil and those OPERATIVES chose to ignore it!!

However, when there wasn't any GOOD intelligence to support invading IRAQ, the "rogue" CIA used false intelligence and fed the American people and the World LIES!!!


Because they are LIARS??

President Clinton said to Senator Clinton during an interview when she claimed that there was a Vast_Right_Wing_Conspiracy against him that it wasn't a conspiracy, Hillary!! A conspiracy is something that is HIDDEN and this OPERATION is in plain sight.
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Old 08-03-2005, 06:14 PM
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Oh yea, fun isn't it. I went to a talk by some professor who was a research assistant of Sir Fred Hoyle, a leading British imperialist astronomer. He claimed life had originated from out in space and just landed on the earth a very long time ago. He spent two hours with his slide projector explaining this theory and at the end there was an ‘any questions’ session. It started off with idiot public questions like do you feel your wonderful theory has now been accepted amongst the majority of scientists and so forth.

Then it was my turn. I started asking him things like if it came from out of space then surely that does not explain evolution it just puts it one step back and did he have any idea how it started off out in space and the answer was, no he didn't. Then it was on to questions about the unreliability of red shift to determine astronomical distances due to a possible fluctuation in the speed of light, as space may not be a homogeneous vacuum. The professor had a very confused look on his face and was very much struggling to the point of waffling gibberish. The rest of the public thought I was some kind of genius for causing an internationally highly respected scientist figure to not have an answer. You can try the same next time one of these people visit your town!
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Old 08-03-2005, 06:58 PM
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Here is the guy in question, you can see he has the mark of the establishment written all over him.

Chandra Wickramasinghe
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Nalin Chandra Wickramasinghe (1939-) is professor of Applied Mathematics and Astronomy at Cardiff University; Director of Cardiff Centre for Astrobiology. Student and collaborator with Sir Fred Hoyle; their joint work on the infrared spectra of interstellar grains led to developing the modern theory of panspermia. This theory proposes that cosmic dust in interstellar space and in comets is partly organic, and that life on earth evolved from this source rather than from "primordial soup." Currently working on developing methods for detecting life processes in space. Winner in 1997 of the Crafoord Prize; Fellow of the Royal Society of Arts; Fellow of the Royal Astronomical Society.

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Old 11-09-2005, 06:55 AM
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Oh my. You tried to insult Dr Wickramasinghe? He has more credibilty than you will ever posess.

He is a primary researcher. A director of a research institute. He has published many papers... anyway.. You would only discount this, in your infinite ignornace having never had the pleasure of reading any of his work.

It DOES NOT push evolution one step back. It pushes it forward, and by a lot. He worked with Sir Hoyle on this idea. Its possible that their idea may hold water, and a *LOT* of people much smarter than you( are there any denser? ) give him a lot of credit.

Space is not a homogenius vaccum, and this question is about Cosmology, of course, which is also in his expertize. He verified Einstien's equations, and found a novel solution. Have you ever spoken to another human being who can claim that? Did you know that? Do you even know what his novel solution was?
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