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Old 12-12-2005, 06:33 PM
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Default someone on this board once said that the unending immigration of the last decades were...


reminiscent of Victorian (or Industrial?) cities where wave after wave of people were needed to keep the place running?

I also need resources on this :-)

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Old 12-12-2005, 07:06 PM
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Default Re: someone on this board once said that the unending immigration of the last decades were...

Here is the only resource
you will need: A Calculator

Suppose I were King and only netted out
$10,000 per person/slave per year in taxes.

I could increase my cash-flow
by 100 billion dollars per year
if I let 10 million new arrivals
into the country.

That's one trillion dollars
in ten years. If you get
a Hewlett Packard 10B Calculator
you can play with the numbers.
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Old 12-12-2005, 07:22 PM
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in other words, immigration = statism?
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Old 12-12-2005, 07:44 PM
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Default Re: someone on this board once said that the unending immigration of the last decades were...

No, immigration and emigration
= freedom of movement.

Statism creates Taxation = Slavery

Immigrants can't be blamed
for the oppression of the State
( unless of course they go
work for the State, like that
irritating East Indian who
phones you from C.R.A. )

Thumper, you should be able to
move from Vancouver to Burnaby
or Richmond, and back anytime you chose
no questions asked, no border stop,
no ID, no nothing. Same goes for
movement around the whole earth
in my opinion.
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Old 12-12-2005, 08:08 PM
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Quote:
rushdoony wrote:
No, immigration and emigration
= freedom of movement.

Statism creates Taxation = Slavery

Immigrants can't be blamed
for the oppression of the State
( unless of course they go
work for the State, like that
irritating East Indian who
phones you from C.R.A. )

Thumper, you should be able to
move from Vancouver to Burnaby
or Richmond, and back anytime you chose
no questions asked, no border stop,
no ID, no nothing. Same goes for
movement around the whole earth
in my opinion.
We have different definitions of immigration then.

In a libertarian society all property being private one does not have the 'freedom' to immigrate, or at least automatically expect the forced integration of attaining a job, going to school, or over-running a society.

It's the 'freedom of movement' where the government is ultimate 'super owner' of all property where they force things upon society like 'civil rights' 'multi-culturalism' and city planning. Maintaining open borders by overriding the discretion of private property owners is what seems to increase statism.

That's what I mean by my statement. Immigration for the sake of moving should be allowed in every free society of course, but forced integration is always the recipe for a police state.
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Old 12-12-2005, 08:10 PM
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anyway, back to my main question: any resources on how in the Victorian era these 'cities' were set up as giant tax colonies that relied on unending immigration from the country side?
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