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Old 09-24-2005, 07:36 PM
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War Pornography US soldiers trade grisly photos of dead and mutilated Iraqis for access to amateur porn. The press is strangely silent.By Chris Thompson

Published: Wednesday, September 21, 2005


Who / What:

The War Pornographers

Chris Thompson

If you want to see the true face of war, go to the amateur porn Web site N______________.com. For almost a year, American soldiers stationed in Iraq and Afghanistan have been taking photographs of dead bodies, many of them horribly mutilated or blown to pieces, and sending them to Web site administrator Chris Wilson. In return for letting him post these images, Wilson gives the soldiers free access to his site. American soldiers have been using the pictures of disfigured Iraqi corpses as currency to buy pornography.

At Wilson's Web site, you can see an Arab man's face sliced off and placed in a bowl filled with blood. Another man's head, his face crusted with dried blood and powder burns, lies on a bed of gravel. A man in a leather coat who apparently tried to run a military checkpoint lies slumped in the driver's seat of a car, his head obliterated by gunfire, the flaps of skin from his neck blooming open like rose petals. Six men in beige fatigues, identified as US Marines, laugh and smile for the camera while pointing at a burned, charcoal-black corpse lying at their feet.

The captions that accompany these images, which were apparently written by the soldiers who posted them, laugh and gloat over the bodies. The soldier who posted a picture of a corpse lying in a pool of his own brains and entrails wrote, "What every Iraqi should look like." The photograph of a corpse whose jaw has apparently rotted away, leaving a gaping set of upper teeth, bears the caption "bad day for this dude." One soldier posted three photographs of corpses lying in the street and titled his collection "DIE HAJI DIE." The soldiers take pride, even joy, in displaying the dead.

This could become a public-relations catastrophe. The Bush administration claims such sympathy for American war dead that officials have banned the media from photographing flag-draped coffins being carried off cargo planes. Government officials and American media officials have repeatedly denounced the al-Jazeera network for airing grisly footage of Iraqi war casualties and American prisoners of war. The legal fight over whether to release the remaining photographs of atrocities at Abu Ghraib has dragged on for months, with no less a figure than Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Richard Meyers arguing that the release of such images will inflame the Muslim world and drive untold numbers to join al-Qaeda. But none of these can compare to the prospect of American troops casually bartering pictures of suffering and death for porn.

"Two years ago, if somebody had said our soldiers would do these things to detainees and take pictures of it, I would have said that's a lie," sighed recently retired General Michael Marchand, who as assistant judge advocate general for the Army was responsible for reforming military training policy to make sure nothing like Abu Ghraib ever happens again. "What soldiers do, I'm not sure I can guess anymore."

But for Chris Wilson, it's all in a day's work. "It's an unedited look at the war from their point of view," he says of the soldiers who contribute the images. "There's always going to be a slant from the news media. ... And this is a photo that comes straight from their camera to the site. To me, it's just a more real look at what's going on."

Wilson, a 27-year-old Web entrepreneur living in Florida, created the Web site a year ago, asked fans to contribute pictures of their wives and girlfriends, and posted footage and photographs bearing titles such as "wife working ____" and "___________ my wife on the stairs." The site was a big hit with soldiers stationed overseas; about a third of his customers, or more than fifty thousand people, work in the military. Wilson says soldiers began e-mailing him, thanking him for keeping up their morale and "bringing a little piece of the States to them." But other soldiers complained that they had problems buying memberships to his service. "They wanted to join the site, the amateur wife and girlfriend site," he says. "But they couldn't, because the addresses associated with their credit cards were Quackistan or something; they were in such a high-risk country that the credit card companies wouldn't approve the purchase."

That was when Wilson hit upon the idea of offering free memberships to soldiers. All they had to do was send a picture of life in Iraq or Afghanistan, and they'd get all the free porn they wanted. All sorts of images began appearing over the transom, but he dedicated a special site to view the most "gory" pictures. Asked what he feels upon viewing a new batch, Wilson says: "Personally, I don't look at it one way or another. It's newsworthy, and people can form their own opinions."

One soldier, who would not reveal his name or unit, defended his decision to post pictures of the dead, which he did after returning home. "I had just finished watching the beheading of one of our contractors that was taken hostage over in Iraq," he wrote in an e-mail. "I figured since that was all over the Web, maybe these pictures would make some potential suicide bomber think twice after seeing what happens AFTER you pull the pin.

"What you interpret [as] maliciousness and bravado may be how [soldiers] react to situations where they almost die or they just saw their buddy get killed," he continued. "I will not defend the people who have posted pictures of dead, innocent Iraqis, but in my opinion, the insurgents/terrorists that try to kill us and end up getting killed in return have absolutely no rights once they are dead.

"Obviously these postings do not help our public image at all," the soldier concluded. "However, I believe the US has been far too concerned about our public image as of late. ... We need to take a much harsher stand against these Islamic fundamentalists and stop giving them the royal American treatment. They need to be taught a lesson, a lesson hard enough that they will think twice before waging a jihad against us."

Wilson's Web site has made the news before but not for posting pictures of murdered people. Last October, the New York Post reported that the Pentagon was investigating him for posting naked pictures of female soldiers in Iraq. After a few months, the Post reported that the Pentagon had blocked soldiers in Iraq from accessing the Web site, which had posted five more pictures of nude female soldiers, some of whom had posed with machine guns and grenades. After the Post's stories, Wilson says, he was bombarded with requests for interviews from newspapers and radio stations. Even after he began posting photographs of corpses late last year, media inquiries focused exclusively on his nudie pics. It wasn't until reporters from the European press contacted him last week that anyone took notice of Wilson's snuff-for-porn arrangement with American troops.

"The soldiers thing, I think the Italians picked it up first," Wilson says. "I've done interviews with the Italians, the French, Amsterdam. ... They were very critical, saying the US wouldn't pick it up, because it's such a sore spot. ... It raises too many ethical questions. ... I started to laugh, because it's true."

When contacted for this story, a White House spokeswoman said, "If we have a comment, we'll call you back." They never did. But according to Army spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Chris Conway, Pentagon policy may be ambivalent when it comes to soldiers posting pictures of mutilated war victims. "There are policies in place that, on the one hand, safeguard sensitive and classified information, and on the other hand protect the First Amendment rights of service members," he says, adding that field commanders may issue additional directives. "In plain English, if you're on the job working for the Department of Defense, you shouldn't be freelancing. You should be doing your duty."

If American soldiers in the field are always considered representatives of their government, international law clearly prohibits publishing and ridiculing images of war dead. The First Protocol of the Geneva Conventions states that "the remains of persons who have died for reasons related to occupation or in detention resulting from occupation or hostilities ... shall be respected, and the gravesites of all such persons shall be respected, maintained, and marked." The first Geneva Convention also requires that military personnel "shall further ensure that the dead are honorably interred, if possible according to the rites of the religion to which they belonged."

No one can reasonably expect a war without war crimes. But thanks to modern communications technology, photographic evidence of its brutality will always be with us. Roughly two hundred soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan document their experiences in online "milblogs," and digital cameras are ubiquitous. No one can stop soldiers from posting pictures of eviscerated corpses for all to see, and no one should ever again be able to feign ignorance of war's human cost. Or so you'd think. Yet in the days since the European press uncovered the gore-for-porn story, not a single US print newspaper other than the Express has touched it.

Representatives from Amnesty International and Human Rights First even refused to comment, although both organizations ostensibly exist to condemn just this kind of practice. Perhaps no one wants to give Chris Wilson more publicity, or daily editors are too sensitive about being viewed as unpatriotic. Or perhaps the story is just too ugly to contemplate.

Americans have thousands of media outlets to choose from. But they still have to visit a porn site to see what this war has done to the bodies of the dead and the souls of the living. One of the pictures on Wilson's site depicts a woman whose right leg has been torn off by a land mine, and a medical worker is holding the mangled stump up to the camera. The woman's vagina is visible under the hem of her skirt. The caption for this picture reads: "Nice _______ bad foot."


For those who measure the cost of this war in blood and treasure, this article suggests a greater cost - one that cannot be measured.

"What profiteth a man if he gains the world and loseth his soul?"

What will happen to these soul-damaged or soul-less ones when they come home? How will they reintegrate into society? How will they deal with the dreams and nightmares if any modicum of conscience survives? Have the Iraqis been sufficiently de-humanized that neither those who return nor anyone else will care?

What will the outcome be if they discover that they were lied into fighting an illegal war by a Satanic cabal known as the Illuminati against an innocent people who never did them or this country any harm prior to the invasion of their homeland?

Will their pictures and comentary come back to haunt them?

What of the Chris Wilsons of this world, not part of the ruling cabal but a bottomfeeder who sucks up the slime, spews it out and sells it for profit? What of those who buy it?

What of those who call themselves Christians who have backed this war from the beginning, who are backing their War President in his determination to "stay the course" so that more on all sides can die and for what?

What of those who are aware of what is happening and neither say or do anything?

All of these questions are rhetorical, just something to think about.

A popular question of the last decade was, "What would Jesus do/say?" I think I know the answer to that one:

"Depart from me, I never knew you."

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Old 09-24-2005, 07:57 PM
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Where you find war...you find this beahviour.

This behaviour is absoloutly normal. No matter your creed, your race, your religion, when you fight an enemy "different" from you "physically", "culturally" - ...this is what you get.

When Christian fought Christian in 2 world wars the other looked at the other and said, "hey , that could be me".

When the Germans went into Soviet Russia they found people living like pigs...untermenschen. Lowly Slavs - poised for the invasion of Europe. Restraint at first but once the Russians "mutilated" a company of Germans it was on for young and old. Tit for tat.

This is war.

There are no "nice" wars.

This behaviour is standard.

And when the collapse of the American economy begins and the troops come home...guess what!

These will be the people taking your guns. Pulling you out of your house and raping your daughter and wife.

Debased, depraved human beings who will also have been given the option of joining up to going to jail. What a combination! What an absoloutly LETHAL combination.

Quit your postal worker job now if you value getting home for dinner.
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Old 09-26-2005, 03:32 PM
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I agree with truebeliever. War is war in everywhere. However, now we can really see the horrors with our own eyes. That wasn't possible in the 40s.

However, here is a link to preview the content of the site mentioned in the previous post. Thanks to Internet for access to uncensored material from the war zone.


Hopefully the realisation of war through uncensored photography will shake people awake and make them march against the meaningless murder and destruction.
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Old 11-01-2005, 08:41 PM
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a friend of mine once said that what scared her the most was walking past a group of young black men for fear of being raped by them. i told her that for me it was men in general in military uniform who have invaded the land. because in the group of young black men, there is a good chance that one of them would have enough moral pride to talk the others out of the wrong, but in a military situation a group of young solders would not even think in a moral way. it has always killed me as to how people can end up being solders and totally forget all of the things that mom and dad taught them. war is evil indeed.
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Old 12-10-2005, 10:44 PM
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"Obviously these postings do not help our public image at all," the soldier concluded. "However, I believe the US has been far too concerned about our public image as of late. ... We need to take a much harsher stand against these Islamic fundamentalists and stop giving them the royal American treatment. They need to be taught a lesson, a lesson hard enough that they will think twice before waging a jihad against us."

I find this disturbing it reminds me of how the catholics learned to be so cruel from the early Islamics. Many people dont realise they learned torture and cruelty from them in the first place.
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Old 12-11-2005, 06:35 PM
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sanaa wrote:
it has always killed me as to how people can end up being solders and totally forget all of the things that mom and dad taught them. war is evil indeed.
Joining the military is like joining a gang(blood/crip and whatnot) All the same street rules apply.
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MY GOD. i am quite shocked to here this and i might possibly look into this and i will defintely email CNN to let them know.
You've all gone insane and I'm just laughing at you!!

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The page you mention is non existant! Anyone have a copy?
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Old 09-07-2008, 02:24 AM
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WOW! I thought I was horny! This is unbelievable! Well, you know that's what happens when the soldiers are out there in that desert with their brains bakin' everyday like that. I mean their out there in that desert, nothin' around but some dirt, camels, and some nomads, you know.

I think that if you're going to be a soldier, you should be issued a military wife from the government. You see that way we won't have these kinds of problems. Everyday at about 1300 hours everyone gets one hour of Standard Marrital Issue: S.M.I.s.
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