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Old 10-11-2005, 09:53 AM
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The Silence Was Deafening

by Tim Case

That which has been is what will be,
That which is done is what will be done,
And there is nothing new under the sun.
Is there anything of which it may be said,
“See, this is new”?

It has already been in ancient times before us.
There is no remembrance of former things…

~ Ecclesiastes 1:9–11a

I once heard a brilliant man – and close personal friend – exclaim in frustration to a particularly dense history/current affairs class, “There are three components to being a slave: lack of education, being kept disarmed, and being kept poor.”

Stan continued: “The last component is the least important for the simple reason that being poor is the state of a beaten, subdued collective-minded animal, not a free human. Being disarmed can be remedied in a number of ways but always results from a herd mentality that doesn’t allow people to think independently nor question, because they are living in fear. The most important thing in your life is your education for it is the only event that will keep you from becoming slaves to the whims of a deranged, diabolical mind and marching in lock step to the herd’s drummer!”

The class sat in stunned silence until one poor soul sheepishly asked: “When we get our diplomas then are we educated?”

Stan then went on to explain that there is a difference between education and schooling, with education being a continual process that originates from questioning. Schooling, on the other hand, gives the tools by which we ask and find answers to the questions which spring from a mind which seeks knowledge.

Stan finished his lecture with these words: “I cannot educate you. I am here for the sole purpose of teaching you how to question, and to give you the tools which will provide you with the ability to answer those questions. If you don’t learn and use these rudimentary tools then you will all become slaves. What happened in Germany in 1932 will repeat itself over and over again in your lifetime. You must learn to question your philosophies, your sciences but most of all your politics – otherwise you are doomed! If you are educated you will never allow yourself to be disarmed, even though you may not have much monetary wealth you will never be poor. The choice is yours. My generation thought this only happened to other nations; after all look what happened to Asia, Southern Europe and Russia between 1918 and 1980. Do you really think we are smarter and it can’t happen here! Are there any questions?”

The silence that accompanied Stan’s last question was deafening, there was no rustling of papers, no sounds of students shifting in their chairs, no books were picked up and no one thought of being the first to stand to leave the class. Stan’s glare as he scanned the room for a raised hand would have put most drill sergeants to shame but the point was made.

No, we are not smarter. We as a nation have continued on the path of destruction while thinking we are the “shinning light on a hill,” capable of withstanding every assault from all quarters whether they are philosophical, religious, scientific, social, military or political. Any questions that might arise are drummed down as being unpatriotic, unscientific, ignorant, barbaric, politically incorrect, homophobic, racist, or ridiculed as ridiculous.

What continues is the slavish applause for such self-condemning statements as those made by President Bush in his most recent speech.

At one point the President declared, never thinking he was guilty of precisely what he was condemning:

“…[T]he civilized world knows very well that other fanatics in history, from Hitler to Stalin to Pol Pot, consumed whole nations in war and genocide before leaving the stage of history.”

“Evil men obsessed with ambition and unburdened by conscience must be taken very seriously, and we must stop them before their crimes can multiply.”

In the light of history and reoccurring daily headlines it is folly to assume that modern man has attained the pinnacle of wisdom and has progressed from some lower thinking state to assume the mantle of superiority. It has been through blandishment and the faltering ideologies of the uncultured, uncivilized, uneducated quisling cabal of religious, scientific, political and philosophical intelligentsia that we are lead into the quagmire of self-deluding, self-serving, ever-continuing turpitude.

Is it any wonder then that last week the Los Angeles Times reported twenty percent of California high school seniors flunk graduation exam and that this encompassed 100’s of thousands of California students who were incapable of passing the “English and math sections of the test”!

Certainly without the tools these kids are going to be incapable of asking a question let alone finding an answer to their inquiry; but then again what schooling does cannon fodder need?

Meanwhile the historical questions, from the hoary past, that could bring us to real wisdom and save our society continue to lie in the dust bins of archeological academia only to be trotted out during conversations of polite curiosity at tea parties, or seriously discussed in hushed whispers behind closed doors where no one is likely to be overheard. So the genuflecting to the status quo and the clerisy continues, thus avoiding any social or professional embarrassment and god forbid, the loss of retirement funds.

However, every once in awhile a tantalizing statement slips through the cracks giving us some interesting insight into this world of archeological silence.

One such statement comes from the French philosopher Voltaire, who wrote:

"It is very important to note that some 2,500 years ago at the least Pythagoras went from Samos to the Ganges to learn geometry...But he would certainly not have undertaken such a strange journey had the reputation of the Brahmins' science not been long established in Europe..."

Is it possible that geometry was not discovered by the Greeks but that advanced mathematics is far more ancient than we have been taught? It seems not only possible but may be far more likely than not given the construction techniques and histories of many of the ancient peoples.

Both ancient Babylonia and Ur of Chaldea have given us written records showing that students were taught Euclid’s triangle, 1700 years before Euclid’s birth. The same areas have student’s work tablets in which they were expected to learn the Pythagorean Theorem, this in excess of 1500 years before Pythagoras.

Surviving buildings in both England and France show that the Pythagorean Theorem was in used as early as 2000 BC.

The ancient’s use of mathematics went far beyond high school geometry. Very early written records from India also explain that there are 108 moon diameters between the earth and the moon. Furthermore, there are 108 sun diameters between the earth and the sun. The accuracy of these computations is easily checked.

The Indian mathematicians were capable of calculations of time to 1/3,000,000ths of a second. As early as 2500 BC the speed of light was known and correctly measured at 186,000 per second.

From Babylonia ca. 2700 BC we have two fascinating items. In the Berlin Museum is a seal cylinder which depicts a man by the name of Etana flying on an eagle’s back between the moon and the sun.

A written record, known as the Epic of Etana (TABLET IV), gives us an unusual meaning for the seal cylinder. This ancient epic describes the earth’s surface as Etana progressively gains altitude and accurately explains precisely what happens as man leaves the earth, including a round earth which becomes smaller with distance and the changes in color of the earth’s surface as altitude is increased. The descriptions contains in this epic were not verified until we were able to achieve high-altitude aerial flight and the first space flights of late 50’s and 60’s respectively.

J. Robert Oppenheimer, (1904–1967) the Supervising Scientist of the Manhattan Project was giving a lecture at Rochester University seven years after the first atomic weapon was successfully detonated. After his lecture he opened the floor to a period of questions and answers.

One student asked: “Was the bomb exploded at Alamogordo during the Manhattan Project the first one to be detonated?”

Dr. Oppenheimer’s answer was short but extremely telling. Dr. Oppenheimer said: “Well – yes. In modern times, of course.”

Dr. Oppenheimer years earlier had described what he was thinking when he witnessed the first modern atomic explosion. His thoughts had gone to the Hindu Bhagvad Gita which states:

"Of a thousand suns in the sky if suddenly should burst forth the light, it would be like unto the light of that Exalted One.” (Bhagvad Gita XI, 12)

“Death am I, cause of destruction of the worlds, matured and set out to gather in the worlds there." (Bhagvad Gita XI, 32)

However, in answering the question Dr. Oppenheimer was not referring to the Hindu Bhagvad Gita but rather an ancient Indian text known as the Mahabharata. That which had occurred in Japan in 1945 was reminiscent of a far more ancient episode, one as early as 2450 BC in the regions of the upper Ganges.

The text reads:

...a single projectile charged with all the power of the universe. An incandescent column of smoke and flame as bright as ten thousand suns rose in all its splendor......it was an unknown weapon, an iron thunderbolt, a gigantic messenger of death, which reduced to ashes the entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas....the corpses were so burned as to be unrecognizable. Their hair and nails fell out; pottery broke without apparent cause, and the birds turned white. After a few hours all foodstuffs were infected......To escape from this fire. The soldiers threw themselves in streams to wash themselves and their equipment...

The Epic of Gilgamesh ca. 2500 BC contains a strikingly similar account of a day when "the heavens cried out, the earth bellowed an answer, lightning flashed forth, fire flamed upwards, it rained down death. The brightness vanished, the fire was extinguished. Everyone who was struck by the lightning was turned to ashes."

Was there nuclear war in the ancient past? The evidence says, yes.

Jonathan Gray in his book Dead Men’s Secrets points out that not only do we have the written but the physical evidence of such horrific wars.

“There are Indian remains which strongly suggest that an atomic war was waged in the distant past:”

“Precisely in the region specified in the old records, that is, between the Ganges and the Rajamahal Mountains, there are numerous charred ruins which have yet to be explored. Indications are that these ruins were not burned by ordinary fire. In many instances, they appear as huge masses fused together, with deeply pitted surfaces ‘like tin struck by a stream of molten steel.’”

“Further south, in jungle-claimed areas of the Deccan, are more such ruins. The walls have been glazed, corroded and split by tremendous heat. In some buildings, even the surfaces of the stone furniture have been vitrified (i.e., melted, then crystallized).”

“In the same region a human skeleton was found with radioactivity fifty times above the normal level”

“No natural-burning flame or volcanic eruption could have produced a heat intense enough for this. The heat of millions of degrees, that of thermonuclear reactions, is necessary.”

Nor is evidence limited to the upper Ganges of India. The melted and fussed remains of a ziggurat can be seen today not far from ancient Babylon along with a whole stratum of green fused glass. Both speak of nuclear explosion and are impossible to justify by conventional reasoning.

Of the ancient peoples who unleashed these weapons on each other we know nothing for they died along with their lust for war. Are we to repeat these holocaustic wars, having only those lucky survivors existing as tribal nomads or will we finally learn to question our leadership and demand an accounting for their insane, lascivious yearning for war?

Stan still has received no answer to his closing question. “Do you really think we are smarter and it can’t happen here?” Then we had better take President Bush’s words to heart for indeed, we are led by fanatics who wish to consume whole nations in war and genocide before leaving the stage of history.

Before we fear others having nuclear weapons we should stand in trembling at the morbid monster who sits today with his finger on the greatest stockpile of nuclear weapons man has seen in 4500 years. The alternative is a nation in which the silence is deafening!

October 11, 2005

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Old 10-11-2005, 11:00 AM
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Stan then went on to explain that there is a difference between education and schooling, with education being a continual process that originates from questioning. Schooling, on the other hand, gives the tools by which we ask and find answers to the questions which spring from a mind which seeks knowledge.

As TB's article on David Irving and (I hope) this one reflect, we have an abundance of people who are "schooled" but sadly uneducated. They are like herd animals who follow blindly and will never lift their eyes above the rear end of the next in line.

"If you're not leading the pack, the view never changes" is one of my favorite quotes and is a constant reminder to me to keep seeking and avoid that which is spoon-fed with general overall approval.

Everything that is going on today had a precursor; the Illuminate did not begin with Adam Weishaupt or even several centuries before him. It has it's roots in those who first inhabited the earth who are now lost in the mists of pre-history. Same holds true for many of the other ills that plague us today.

The very roots of the war between "darkness and light," "good and evil" are back there. The roots of our religions, gods, sons of gods, etc. - back there. Even the answer to why gold is held in such high esteem today, there is an answer.

For those of us who have our schooling, it behoves us to keep getting educated.
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Old 10-11-2005, 12:19 PM
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The class sat in stunned silence until one poor soul sheepishly asked: “When we get our diplomas then are we educated?”
Reminds me of the old joke from the TV series Married With Children. The stupid blonde girl Kelly comes rushing into the house exclaiming, "I did it! I finally got my diploma!" Then she hands it to her father Al and says, "Quick, Daddy, tell me what it says! Tell me what it says!"
As they say, it's funny because it's true...

Stan then went on to explain that there is a difference between education and schooling, with education being a continual process that originates from questioning. Schooling, on the other hand, gives the tools by which we ask and find answers to the questions which spring from a mind which seeks knowledge.
My grandfather always used to say, "A man is not truly educated until he learns to think for himself."
With the current system of Illuminati indoctriantion substituting for legitimate education, we must confront the unplesant reality that most people will never be truly educated, no matter how many self-aggrandizing degrees and diplomas they may accumulate.
The educated idiot is here to stay.
\"...if the American people ever find out what we have done, they will chase us down the streets and lynch us.” George H. W. Bush, Sr., 1992.
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Old 10-11-2005, 12:26 PM
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Ah, but Freeman, they are merely schooled, not educated. If they are satisfied with their schooling, may they die in their ignorance, for they will never be educated.

BTW, I would have liked your Grandfather. :-)
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Old 10-12-2005, 06:53 AM
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Check out this article:

Part 1 | Part 2
- by David Hatcher Childress

I posted it earlier on CC, discussing similar things <a href="http://www.clubconspiracy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=14&viewmode=flat&order=DESC &start=10&PHPSESSID=feda00e38aa3eb3c8e22dd0c5ff179 e9">HERE</a>, post #46.
Three things are sacred to me: first Truth, and then, in its tracks, primordial prayer; Then virtue–nobility of soul which, in God walks on the path of beauty. Frithjof Schuon
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Old 10-29-2005, 10:47 PM
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As always, Draken, I appreciate your comments and your links. You have my greatest admiration and respect.

For about 30 years I have been reading everything I could lay my hands on about ancient and pre-history and it has convinced me that you are right in yet another area.

We are NOT evolving, we are devolving. Perhaps, just as those much earlier civilizations had and used nuclear weapons, so we are walking in their footsteps on the lower rungs but never achieving the heights that they did.

All the shiney bling-bling toys like computers, iPods, TV's, etc., etc., etc., do NOT signify a high state of civilization. Chimpanzees can be taught to use them all with some degree of proficiency.

Just as the saying goes about you can't have guns and butter, neither can you have genocidal wars that kill off the best and brightest and not wind up with a bunch of low IQ'd offspring.

Isn't it ironic that you have to rate 1A to go off and be cannon fodder while the 4F's are left behind to breed? Another irony, they are now enlisting the "lightly retarded" to go and soak up bullets. I'd laugh if it weren't so terribly sad.

How often do you hear of true geniuses, those who can conceive of something from nothing, having no precursor? Just about everything we have today is a follow-through on things conceived prior to, say, 1970.

Wars separate us further from our spiritual nature and makes the journey here longer and harder but then, all roads lead home, eventually.
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Old 10-29-2005, 11:01 PM
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a few years ago, I was having dinner with some friends.

One of the guys (quite socialist) was bemoaning that we, as a society, were rewarding people through the social security system for breeding lots of dumb kids, who don't even know what a home cooked meal is.

Another (doctorate in Philosophy), pointed out that if we didn't pay incompetents to breed, then there would be no taxpayer base for the future.

The system is geared so that smart people with middle incomes can't "afford" to breed (That's not true, they could, but don't have the commitment to do without their trinkets).

Have a bunch of kids, and get rewarded with subsidised housing, healthcare, dentistry, transport, and even (this is the kicker) free child care to give the poor mothers a break from the kids.

If that's not planned to generate a dumbed down McDonalds Generation, I don't know what is.

(On the McDonald generation, we know a mostly welfare family who eat fast food 7 nights a week. "We can't afford to feed a family of 4 otherwise, she complains"...when you point out that their evening meal is $20-$25, and for $15, they could have a stirfry with premium ingredients, or spag-bol, with leftovers for tomorrow's lunch, the comback is "I've got two kids, and certainly don't have time for cooking")

(just Oprah)
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Old 10-30-2005, 01:13 AM
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Hear, Hear!! I couldn't agree with YOU more on any of the points YOU touched on. The proof of the truth of your statements are all around us for the whole world to see.

As for the P(iled)h(igher)&D(eeper), Dr. D___K Head and I would disagree mightily. What kind of tax base is he referring to? They will be second or third generation welfare junkies. They are learning at their Mama's knee how to milk the system.

Actually, I have heard it posited that the reason the government is allowing so many illegal aliens in is to provide ready consumers (Americans are maxed out) and a tax base for future generations. They are willing to live 20 to the room and on payday they go out and blow it all which keeps the wheels of commerce well-oiled and rolling.

NATO complained about the incompetance of American military personnel who were stationed in Europe 25+ years ago. Things have not gotten any better according to relatives in England, Holland and Italy. Johnson's Great Society and all those who have built on it and expanded it deserve seats in the hottest part of Hell.

Shannow, it comes down to this:

What you want more of you subsidize, what you want less of, you tax.

There are, no doubt, couples out there who would love to have children but they don't feel like they can "afford" them. True, as you said, they lack the discipline to forgo the trinkets for the progeny. Ordinarily, they are the very ones who SHOULD be having them. The diabolical plotters and planners' plans are right on track.

We are a robotized country of conspicuous consumers but that little party is fastly coming to an end. You will hear the screaming and crying half way around the world.

Of course, the welfare checks will be the last things to stop. They want to wait until everybody else has sold all their guns to feed their families before they put EVERYBODY in the streets and under bridges to kill each other.
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