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Old 11-30-2004, 07:49 AM
Ahmad Ahmad is offline
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Default Who is the Real Enemy ?

In the name of God, The Gracious, The Merciful

Peace all,

The truth of the matter is that we are all oppressed, our choice is limited to the options our leaders throw us, however, we have the most important weapon of all, Belief in God.

When the moment of truth comes, everybody's true convinction will be exposed, some have already lost the battle, fear has engulfed them.

Others know that only God can harm or benefit, nobody and nothing else has any REAL power or control, they know that the visible illusion is just a test to expose those who chose blindness to the truth.

[4:76] Those who believe are fighting for the cause of GOD, while those who disbelieve are fighting for the cause of tyranny.
Therefore, you shall fight the devil's allies;
the devil's power is nil.

Our main enemy is Satan himself, he is not a fictional character, he is alive and kicking. It all started with his challenge to God's master plan,

-Enemy Number One

[43:62] Let not the devil repel you; he is your most ardent enemy.

-God created Adam from a lower material (mud) than Satan's material (smokless fire, i.e:some kind of energy), God knew that Satan has developed an ego and turned arrogant of his powers instead of being gratefull to their Creator, so God in order to expose him ordered him to fall prostrate (to serve) Adam. Ofcourse with his inflated ego, Satan refused, all other angels readily obeyed God.

[7:11] We created you, then we shaped you, then we said to the angels, "Fall prostrate before Adam." They fell prostrate, except Iblees (Satan); he was not with the prostrators.

[7:12] He said, "What prevented you from prostrating when I ordered you?"
He said, "I am better than he;
You created me from fire, and created him from mud."

-Satan hates the human being because he thinks Adam was the cause of his eviction from Heaven, (he never admits that his ego is the real reason!)

[17:62] He said, "Since You have honored him over me, if You respite me till the Day of Resurrection, I will possess all his descendants, except a few."


The above scene that happened in outer space (in Heaven), resulted in the eviction of Satan, his descendants (the Jinn beings) and all of us (because we were duped by Satan to relate a power to the forbidden tree (a symbol of all visible life elements) independent of God, thus we idolized it and took Satan as a master, later Adam (symbol of all humanity) repented and God accepted his repentance, but yet he was given a make up test (life on earth) to redeem himself completely from the doubts in God's absolute power, he was given the responsbility (the freedom of choice).


Now why do i bring all of these details here? because Satan from day one was determined on taking revenge of his enemy, the human being, that's the reason behind all the bloodshed on earth, a fact confirmed when the angels wondered at why God will give Satan a dominion with the power to control (only those who follow him),

[2:30] Recall that your Lord said to the angels, "I am placing a representative (a temporary god) on Earth." They said, "Will You place therein one who will spread evil therein and shed blood, while we sing Your praises, glorify You, and uphold Your absolute authority?" He said, "I know what you do not know."

God said that He knows what they don't know!

God knows that the deal with Satan is to give him the power to entice and dupe the people into idolizing things and people (the visible illusion) to distract them from God and the Truth.

[4:120]He promises them and entices them; what the devil promises is no more than an illusion.

[6:32]The life of this world is no more than illusion and vanity, while the abode of the Hereafter is far better for the righteous. Do you not understand?!

God meant (the visible life with Satan demsonstrating his polytheistic ideas) as a test for everybody, the good and the bad.

As for the bad who get enslaved by their sinful lusts to Satan, he gains total control over them. As for the good (this is what only God knew), they will eventually realize the terrible costs of following Satan (famine, disease, war and suffering...etc) and will denounce him and his followers, and break free from the illusion of Satan's power.

The moment of truth:

Now this whole master plan is unfolding infront of our eyes, awarness of Satan's vicius schemes is mounting, however we must be prepared for the moment of truth.

When it comes, your response will be one of two, if you are still stuck in the visible illusion (of weapons of mass destruction, Government's power....etc) you will lose, but if you have succesfuly freed yourself and recognized that ONLY GOD HAS POWER TO benefit or harm you, you will be a winner God willing.

What happened in the time of Muhammad give us a good example:

[33:22] When the true believers saw the parties (ready to attack), they said, "This is what GOD and His messenger have promised us, and GOD and His messenger are truthful."This (dangerous situation) only strengthened their faith and augmented their submission.

[33:32] Among the believers there are people who fulfill their pledges with GOD. Some of them died, while others stand ready, never wavering.

[33:24] GOD will surely recompense the truthful for their truthfulness, and will punish the hypocrites, if He so wills, or redeem them. GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful.

[33:25] GOD repulsed those who disbelieved with their rage, and they left empty-handed. GOD thus spared the believers any fighting. GOD is Powerful, Almighty.

[33:26] He also brought down their allies among the people of the scripture from their secure positions, and threw terror into their hearts. Some of them you killed, and some you took captive.

[33:27] He made you inherit their land, their homes, their money, and lands you had never stepped on. GOD is in full control of all things.

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Old 11-30-2004, 10:19 PM
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Who are his minions on earth though? Since we can only do battle directly with other people, I think we need to *correctly* identify those groups of people who go against nature and morality and take control away from the people to determine their own futures.

I think those groups are something like:
* Council on Foreign Relations
* The Federal Reserve
* Bildeberg Group
* Probably at least 75% of the media elites
* Fabian Society
* Probably the European Union leaders
* Globalists of the New World Order

Probaby a lot more I'm missing here.
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Old 12-01-2004, 04:48 AM
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Peace Kinergy,

Actually you are missing 99% of them!.
His minions are all the untruthfull people on earth. All those who LET their Jinn companions take over their minds and bodies without resisting.
The body and mind of the Human being is designed by God to be controlled by the Human soul, however the majority give in to the domineering Jinn companions who are more on the side of Satan (they use us to gratify their sinful pleasures like Marrionete) thus what they project are not their realselves but their Jinn companions, these Jinn-controlled people are more dead than alive (God calls them the Liars).
They are those who feel driven, out of control most of the time (if you read some interviews with Ted Bundy, you may notice how he gradually gave in to his companion's control, untill his real self completely vanished underneath).
Nobody can kill his brother in humanity in cold blood (without being controlled by his devilish Jinn companion)
Nobody can enslave his brother in humanity except those controlled by their Jinn companions, they perfectly demonstrate the scene when Satan said to God (I am better than Adam).

You can recognize them from their arrogant, robotic, emotionless, theatrical way of talking. Some can recognize them just from their looks.
To focus on only the categories you mentioned , serves a satanic cause,and cover up on the subtle controllers, manipulators, liars all around us.

[47:30] If we will, we can expose them for you, so that you can recognize them just by looking at them. However, you can recognize them by the way they talk. GOD is fully aware of all your works.
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Old 12-01-2004, 05:36 AM
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As for the categories you mentioned, all i can say now is that we don't have the means to fight them directly as the early believers did (we can only withdraw as much as we can from the satanic systems meant to enslave us, spread the truth and most importantly stay steadfast, fearless, full of faith in God's absolute power).

For example, Muhammad (the last prophet, not the last messenger)* started delivering his inspired Quran to the tribe of Mecca, and called them to return to pure monotheism and discard the worship of idols beside God (they worshipped idols, and believed they are the daughters of God!), these Meccans (the tribe of Quraish) actually where practicing a distorted version of the religion of Abraham (Submission), they did the contact prayers (but not to God alone, but to God+idols), and did worship at the shrine of God (Kaaba).
However all their works were nullified because of idolworship (the only unforgivable sin in Quran, setting partners reverenced beside God). Same as what happend with Jesus happened to Muhammad, the people first rediculed him, and said what is this crazy guy who wants to make the gods One God!, then gradually the persecution evolved into life threats, bullying, violence. The Meccans were in full control of all the systems of Mecca (Trade, dominant culture..etc), same as the situation of the world now.
So what did Muhammad and the few followers do? they had to emigrate to another small city (called Medina or City in Arabic), slowly but surely, God supported them in numbers and power untill they reached a state where they could challenge the Meccans and restore God's shrine back to the pure religion of Submission (One God ALONE).

[8:60] You shall prepare for them all the power you can muster, and all the equipment you can mobilize, that you may frighten the enemies of GOD, your enemies, as well as others who are not known to you; GOD knows them. Whatever you spend in the cause of GOD will be repaid to you generously, without the least injustice.


What happened next is that God granted Victory to the Submitters over the Meccans (who surrendered at the arrival of the bythen powerfull Submitters).


Another profound example that God teaches us in Quran is the Children of Israel, who fled from the persecution of Pharaoh, lead by Moses,

[2:49] Recall that we saved you from Pharaoh's people who inflicted upon you the worst persecution, slaying your sons and sparing your daughters. That was an exacting test from your Lord.

[7:137] We let the oppressed people inherit the land, east and west, and we blessed it. The blessed commands of your Lord were thus fulfilled for the Children of Israel, to reward them for their steadfastness, and we annihilated the works of Pharaoh and his people and everything they harvested.

As you can see from the above examples, Victory is guaranteed for the submitters.

how to become a submitter?

the first pillar of Submission is (I bear witness that: There is no god except God), the first half means that you should first denounce all the satanic ideas in your mind that anything or anyone has any power on its own, independent of God, or to make it more clear, to reach a conviction that Only God can harm or benefit you, to break free from the visible illusion, all the organizations you mentioned have ZERO power, their image is meant as a test for you, nothing more and nothing less.

Then after you remove all the false centers, false gods from your mind (money, outer appearances, powerfull armies..etc) you are now ready to proclaim out loud that ONLY God has power, and submit to HIm alone.

At that moment you will lose all fear, all obsessions, addictions. (the five other pillars of Submission, Contact prayer, fasting, Pilgrimage,Obligatory charity) are only meant to keep you in this state of mind untill your time comes.

If you look closely at the series of global events, you will find that Satan is trying his best to stain and give a bad name to Islam (Submission in english), ofcourse the modern Islam is actually satanic, however Satan knows that Submission (the real one of Abraham) is the biggest threat to his kingdom, just imagine millions of FREE people who are fearless of anything or anyone except God! how dangerous would they be for Satan's kingdom of darkness.

I know that embracing Submission (Islam in Arabic), and i mean ofcourse the original version is difficult because of the propaganda, but rest assured that this is the call of God, it's not my call, i just deliver. God inspired me to UNITE the submitters around the world in one united nation as a first step, what comes next will be one of two (emigration to a free place) or direct victory from God, i am waiting for this year to end to assess the prophecies that you may find on my website, untill then, i will try my best to unite the sincere around One God, one book, one religion God willing.

**Don't let the devil short circuit you at the word "Islam"!**

[3:139] You shall not waver, nor shall you grieve, for you are the ultimate victors, if you are believers.

[110:1] When triumph comes from GOD, and victory.
[110:2] You will see the people embracing GOD's religion in throngs.
[110:3] You shall glorify and praise your Lord, and implore Him for forgiveness. He is the Redeemer.


[46:31] "O our people, respond to the call of GOD, and believe in Him. He will then forgive your sins, and spare you a painful retribution."

* A prophet is a messenger who delivers a scripture.
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Old 12-01-2004, 07:13 PM
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Kinergy... I like what you are sayin'... Not that I am against ahmad's point of view.
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Old 12-02-2004, 01:28 AM
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Chapter by chapter and verse by verse else I can say pretty much what I want and still tell the truth.
We have met the enemy and ... he is us.

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Old 12-11-2004, 05:41 PM
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I have basically the same views on all Illuminati stuff, bankers, CFR, Pharisees, Satanists, etc... That's why i'm here, after all. But the title of this thread reminds me of something i deem important, Enemy-wise.

Most of the time ,probably like majority here, i feel enraged when i see some new suffering, war and disasters i think are caused by these people. I've practically stopped believing in natural occurences of 'natural disasters' - no, it's only "Damn Americans, f****ng HAARP, damn Russians, f****ng ELF weapons!".
In fact, even when it's not their direct action, it's undoubtedly an effect of their previous tamperings somewhere else, that much i know. I've read quite a bit on physics of "butterfly effect" in my best years.

Etc, etc...

YET, i try to remember as often as i can (which unfort. is not too much that the only Real Enemy is in fact Ego, not "them".

In God, and in His eyes, we are ALL His children, absolutely equally, and if anyone of us thinks Father loves them more than say GW Bush, or Greenspan, or Rotchild, they are VERY very wrong. And to Father, any one child calling any other child an enemy is also simply wrong. We are ALL small children in the garden of Eden, as far as God is concerned.
Small children who've got carried away with our play, and who got carried away with our roles in the play, and built up egos based on how we percieve those roles.

Believe it or not, it is so.

Nobody is anyone's Enemy. And ESPECIALLY, nobody is God's enemy. Not to God at least - only we (and sometimes they themselves) consider them God's Enemies. Not God. But then, God's view is the only True view - ours is always but a dream, this i know for sure. (A dream, that is, unless/until we awaken and see it thru God's eyes). Hence, God is right, and we are wrong - and they are not really our enemies. It is as simple as that.

Who or what is then the Enemy, who or what is the cause of all unmeasurable suffering that going on perpetually; and is getting only worse with time, not less as they tell us?

EGO is the satan's seat in every one of us, all members of this forum included, as well as all other people, and bankers and secret societies.
It is just a matter of how much we let it rule.
With the views that we here share, it is extremely important to remind ourselves frequently that the feeling of self-righteousness, and espec. righteous anger, is a great tool of this same Satan, and a great material for Ego building, if it is not held under strict and strong control, and used (or let happen) only very sparingly. In fact, the same that applies to all other (ego-)candy.

While it is true that people we are blaming here are builders (and descendants of builders) of eternal Babylon Tower, currently in it's most recent incarnation of New World Order, The Tower of Ego is the Babylon Tower in each and every one of us, and it is the ONLY instance of the Tower that is really in our power to tear down and destroy; or to let it rule us. In most people, it is a matter of measure, not either/or.

This is where our real efforts should go. This is the only Enemy each one of us has the task to conquer.

A beam in our eye is our task, the Teacher said, not the sand in the eye of another. This applies NO MATTER how sure we are that the case is opposite: that there's a grain of sand in our eye, and a beam in "theirs". One reason for this is that EVERYBODY is sure that their 'eye-artifact' is smaller than others', espec. of those who their anger, blame, or contempt is directed against.

So, even us here calling Illuminati etc "the enemy" is Satan's work, if you like, and he is happily rubbing his palms as we speak; having successfully set up "us" against "them".

But I am not saying we should forget about everything around us, and become blind to the omnipresent suffering, nor it's political/economic causes, and perpetrators. It is just a change of view i'm talking about; and a reminder of our real task. A reminder not to become 'like them', having same emotions, just professing another ideology.

The "Illuminati", to use it as a cover-all conspiracy term, are undoubtedly extremely dangerous souls and create unbelievable harm and suffering worldwide since beginnig of written history - but in truth, they are but lost children, extremely spoiled and extremely tangled up in their over-over-inflated Egos, and if anything, they should be pittyed, and helped, not hated.

We should of course do everything we can to lessen the harm they do, and also to help stopping them from doing it, as much as we can. But however 'emotionless' and 'soulless' they render themselves, emotionally they are youngest of all us children - albeit oversized and over-spoilt mutant babies - and have to be stopped from harming other children, and helped to develop into 'normal' souls, capable of love and loving creative interaction with other souls. If we consider ourselves spiritually more adult (which judging by all the Quran and Bible quotes seems to be the case , this is how we should look on "them" - not with hatred or anger, and enmity. They are not our enemies, they are only THEIR OWN enemies, and we can only pray for someone to help their souls if we can't, and do as much as we can in repairing and preventing damage caused by them. Informing ourselves and others about what is really going on is undoubtedly a part of it - the part that brings us together on this forum.

This is what we can and should do regarding the 'evil rulers' and 'evil conspirators' - but the only place we can do anything substantial, only place where we can really conquer Satan, is not the world stage, it is our heart. Here and only here we can win the war against evil and bring Heaven's Kingdom to the earth, and let God, our eternal Father, shine upon the days of our lives and lives of those around us.
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