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Old 09-14-2009, 05:54 PM
Mattos_12 Mattos_12 is offline
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Default A question about conspiracy logic


Hey chaps,

I don't want to be offensive, but I wonder about conspiracy logic. I mean, I think if you balance evidence on most things you realize conspiracies are often clearly wrong, or simply highly improbable.

the full string of my logic is:

The Secret Rulers of The World | PurpleSlinky

Would be interested by your response.

Best Regards

Matt

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Old 09-16-2009, 01:17 PM
JohnMontgomeryDoe JohnMontgomeryDoe is offline
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Default Re: A question about conspiracy logic

Exactly. If 'they' are real and 'they' control the evidence, then, of course you're going to come to the conclusion(s) that 'they' have prepared for you.

I think most of us can sense that something shady is afoot, but don't know exactly what it is or where the source of it is. Seek and ye shall find.

That's why people come to this site and others like it. That's why this site and others like it are here.
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Old 09-16-2009, 01:28 PM
JohnMontgomeryDoe JohnMontgomeryDoe is offline
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OK, I just read the purple slinky thing and I've got your mechanism. Here in the US, we call it The Federal Reserve (or FED for short). It is not a government agency. It is a private bank. A private bank that solely holds the power to print and distribute cash whenever, however, and to whomever they see fit. There is no regulation. There is no accountability (though we, as citizens/taxpayers are accountable and liable to pay these monies back with interest). Congress gave them this power almost 100 years ago and they have yet to be audited. The Rothschilds and Rockefellers are in this thing together (along with a few other lesser known family names). I believe the same group is operating the same way in other countries including the UK.
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Old 09-16-2009, 01:45 PM
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Default The official stories

are conspiracy theories
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Old 09-22-2009, 04:04 AM
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>>I think most of us can sense that something shady is afoot, but don't know exactly what it is or where the source of it is. Seek and ye shall find.

I've never investigated a conspiracy and been convinced by it. So why do others become SO convinced by such terrible evidence that is given on such forums as these?

They sensed something? That's not enough for me.
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Old 09-23-2009, 04:00 AM
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What do you mean? That forums stir up conspiracy therefore no forum no means to stir up conspiracy?

We've all seen the Oliver Stone film and how that Garrison guy stirred up a hornet's nest. His forum was the public arena, FAR more potent than all internet forums...put together.

I think the public have learned enough about conspiracy to know not to trust it. But they do love to think about it.
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Old 10-06-2009, 11:30 AM
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I don't think forums such as these existed during the JFK assassination.

The JFK assassination had physical evidence that couldn't be explained. This is why there are conspiracy theories about it. It was also widely believed if you shoot some one in the back of the head, the brain matter would go forward. JFK's went backward. Modern science has proved why that would be, but still can't explain away the planted bullet.

When there is a shadow of a doubt, it usually means something else happened. What actually happened is just total speculation as nobody really knows except those involved.

Also, it's pretty obvious the government does things without informing it's people. This is by definition a conspiracy, they are called theories for that exact reason. Some are absurd, others are probably true. What do we know? We know Mr. Obama hasn't really done anything but continue bush's crusade. This is a far cry from him saying the troops were coming home during the campaign.

What changed his mind?

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Old 10-07-2009, 03:50 AM
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The planted bullet? It looks suspicious, true. But you are bound to get the odd thing that looks suspicious in a massive investigation. It's statistical. That's the answer that settles my nerves, anyway.

The last wound caused by the bullet was a slight one, just the breaking of the skin on the thigh. The bullet passed through the trousers and therefore would have been slightly in the thigh and if knocked would have fallen into the trousers. Considering he was sat up and had his knee bent the bullet would have fallen to the knee at least. He would then have been taken from the car and placed on a stretcher, at no time being upright, so the bullet would have had to have been still in his pants. After being transported to a hospital he would have remained on one gurney, probably as his pants were cut away and the bullet will have fallen out where it was found. The bullet has not acted bizzarely at any point. If he had been up and walking around then I would expect the bullet to have been found on the ground. He was laid down from the point of being shot so it was found where it should have been.
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Old 10-08-2009, 03:34 AM
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When they are involved in a CRIME, they muddy the waters so that the true circumstances of what actually occurred cannot be detected.

In essence, they create the conspiracy surrounding the crime in which they were involved.

Keeps many people busy for DECADES presenting THEORIES as to what really happened, but once the evidence has been tampered with, it is almost an impossibility to know the facts.
But that is assuming there was a crime in the first place that wasn't simply done by Oswald. To properly appraise the info is to start from the basis that people are innocent until proven guilty. It is not the fun option though. Much more ENTERTAINING to assume he was assassinated by CIA etc. That's the basis conspiracy theorists start from. What is the most ENTERTAINING alternative and see if we can prove THAT happened, no matter how grey the evidence is.
Because it IS a hobby, like fishing.
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Old 10-09-2009, 03:57 AM
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I don't believe because the evidence is not very good. I come to these places to find out the latest evidence, which always turns out to be not very good. You shouldn't be angry at people who criticise your belief system when that system is based on bad evidence. You should accept that base your beliefs on little or nothing.

And I doubt 99% share your views of JFK. Those that do would believe anything anyway.

Also, did you not see this thread?

http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/...en-6372-2.html

I didn not outright deny the possibility of Atta's luggage being suspect. I even took the subject to the James Randi forum.

Atta's conveniently late luggage - JREF Forum

Who were not too good in pouring cold water on the whole thing.

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