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Old 10-25-2010, 10:32 PM
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Actually you would be wrong on many accounts, especially about the York Rite.

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Actually you would be wrong on many accounts, especially about the York Rite.
To whom are you speaking?
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Old 10-29-2010, 10:23 PM
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BA, I was responding to the inaccuracies of JBoy.
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I had to join this forum. as a mason hates true facts, we are all anti-mason.. we are all the "PROFANE". Masons are evil thur and thru.

We Masons are not evil. Masonry at its core is pure. Nor do Masons hate facts. Facts have for centuries sided with Freemasonry.

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ALL of them..Who would join and swear to secrets they are not told da...dah ???. They are not told of the secrets.. what fools!!!

Actually we are. I notice that you don't post any links to your assertions. How revealing. Also note, that their are much more degrees and orders within the York Rite than the Scottish Rite and the AASR was also founded by York Rite Masons.

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The 33rd's laugh at the low level,low life dogs.

And you would know this how?

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Among Masonic symbols the beehive is called the "symbol of industry". No wonder, each worker is a "dumbed-down" bee who works for free ...trade. When extracting honey from the pollen these worker-bees do all the work, while the shifty "priests" live the good life inseminating their bisexual-androgynous "queen".

Actually in the explanation of the beehive symbol we are told that we should not be lazy drones or "dumbed-down bees" as we would be useless to society.

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- In Masonry "the Lost Word" is a password. This password is DESDEMONA. She is the "dumb wife" in Shakespear's play Othello who took all the blame for everything that went wrong in HIS life. The word Desdemona means "destroy the demon female"

This isn't our Lost Word. Hahahahaha. Funny little man.

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They rot everthing they touch !!!!.. there children are evil as they are..Look at the bullying in the schools.,Yes, im saying it and backing it, Most are masonic children went evil by there evil parents.
God has been patient, add Karma, Satan kills his own. why u think u can trust satan to protect u ???.. hello !!!!da...dah !!!!!.. All ur ganstalking is done by masonic drones such as dirty masonic cops,dirty masonic judges.....and the scum on the streets, . wonder why ur neighbor never speaks to ?????. You are the "profane".. they hate us.. we are not masonic. (evil)

And if you go by juicy facts, why don't you cite them? All you have is accusations and nothing more.
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Old 10-29-2010, 11:00 PM
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Bizzare Masonic Oaths

Well, so far you are swinging and missing. That handbook is not actual ritual nor is it an accurate interpretation of the ritual.

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According to masonic oaths, Masons are to be killed if they reveal masonic secrets.

Our Oaths are figurative and not literal. Anyone who leaks out anything that is to be kept private is just expelled. Nothing more.

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In 1826, Captain William Morgan, a high-degree Mason, made masonic secrets public in his book "Freemasonry Exposed." According to the "Masonic Handbook," he was murdered for it.

He wasn't that high-level. Also, if it was Masons that did murder him they were rogues and did this outside the rule of Freemasonry and their Grand Lodge, which did in fact speak out against the act.

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You are right, and those things that are spoken over the masons (the curses) also affect their familes.Many families of masons suffer many horrible things such as early death, miscarriage, frequent divorces, freequent illnesses etc etc.

Evidence of this would be?

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It is evil and dangerous.No Christian should have anything whatsoever to do with it.

And it comes down to it. You are blinded by religious intolerance. You really have no evidence, just hatred in your heart. How very Christian of you.

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It is a religion that slowly distorts what the Masonic Christian believes, without his knowledge.

Actually Freemasonry cannot be a religion as it doesn't meet the basic requirements. And when it comes to the business between a man and his belief in God, no one's opinion matters except for that man. It's between him and God.

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Freemasonry has close ties with a number of nonchristian religions and cults.

Intolerance at its finest. Its the radical version of Christianity that would have us back in the Dark Ages.

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Masonry has close ties with the Ku Klux Klan

Actually it doesn't.

Again, you don't provide one link to show us your sources other than two books that actually are not ritual books nor evidence other than these men's opinions.
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I look for a mason to declare "cut and paste"
You are a cut-and-paste artist. Its not derogatory, just fact.

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Masons are in all society, all trades,all government....heavy in the medical field, security field...heavy in corrupt judges,dirty cops, on all levels,city,county and state.presidents were and are freemasons.Our government is corrupt because of the low life crooked,evil masons.
Freemasonry welcomes men from all walks of life. Only 14 US Presidents have been Freemasons, the last being Ford. Please point out any corrupt government official that is also a Freemason.

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God is tired
That's a pretty bold statement to say you know the internal ongoings of the Almighty.

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All religions dont hate and harm people.. YET, the FREEMASONS do..
Freemasonry isn't a religion.

All these bullying accusations are bullshit as you have no proof of it. None. Zilch. Zero. Nada.
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This is how a controlled Masonic drone/slave thinks;

We are a good, charitable, fraternity of men?
Yes. This is very true.

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We all use numerous aliases and hide behind the curtains.
And what would those aliases be?

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We are profound liars. This is one of our first lessons.
Actually its the complete opposite.

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We award chocolate medals for telling lies on behalf of the brotherhood.
THEY DO!!!!????

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We defend each other no matter what.
Nope.

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We are masters of disinformation.
Not really.

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We feel confident hiding behind our Master's apron.
Sure. Why not.

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We are all gang-stalkers.
Still waiting on evidence. Real evidence.

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We are masters of cheap psychology.
No. You can find that on talk shows.

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We don't even know the truth as we are all controlled individually.
Not really.

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We are guaranteed a job for life, regardless of qualifications.
Not really.

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We use trusted Masonic families and friends to carry out Masonic Theatre.
Where is this at?

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We knew about 911 before the profane did. It gave us empowerment.
Not really.

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We have no idea what our fellow Mason's are up to.
What they do on their private time is their business.

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We are all eyes and ears for our puppet masters, the intelligent elite.
Nope.

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We do a profile on everybody.
Wrong again.

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We even brainwash our innocent offspring into Freekmasonry.
Oh, and with the rude and unneeded derogatory comment. Tell tale sign that the poster cannot argue intelligently.

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We don't care about anything outside Freekmasonry.
Another use of a derogatory comment. And yes, we care much about our fellow man (and woman), Mason and non-Mason alike.

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We collectively destroy families, businesses, anything, anybody.
Evidence of this would be?

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We work by cowardly stealth.
See my previous statement.

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We only eat Masonic flavoured carrots. No other story/version will do.
What the...? So we took a left at Crazy St did we?

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We are masters at wasting your valuable time, no matter how trivial.
This just doesn't make sense.

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We control all CCTV and it only works if we say so.
Nope.

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The "G" in Freekmasonry means Gobble De Gook.
Another derogatory and crazy comment.

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We are destroying the planet and it's contents for total control.
Actually, in my own personal opinion, we are stewards of this planet and as such sustain it and make it better for future generations.

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We are just puppets for the elite.
I'm pretty sure you already said this before.

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We actually believe in Freekmasonry.
Another derogatory term that holds no meaning.

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We take orders on how to get inside your head.
Nope.

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We control the Military, Government, Judiciary, NHS, Finances, You.
Nope.

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We control all of your communications.
Nope.

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We are the invisible terrorists within all communities.
That's just rude to say. A majority of Freemasons are God fearin, law abiding citizens. I'm not going to say every member is perfect, but we have rules that weed them out if they step out of line, which usually results in their expulsion.

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We have infiltrated all religions.
Nope. Some intolerant religions still forbid their congregation to join our ranks if they so desired.

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We do a lot for corrupt Masonic controlled charities.
Whats the evidence of this supposed corruption?

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We love stupid symbols and believe in them.
The symbols teach important lessons of morality. We don't idolize them.

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We all childishly giggle on collective persecution of one victim.
Nope.

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We control all crime, drugs and the misery that comes with it.
Nope.

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We can isolate (ostracize) any chosen individual.
Nope.

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We are undiluted evil dressed up as good.
Says the false witness.

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We have been programmed to "HATE" profane (uninitiated) people.
No we haven't.

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We will label truth-seekers or victims as being delusional or paranoid.
Well your version of the truth is everything, but the truth.

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We have a new name in the UK, it's called "Common Purpose"
Never heard of it.

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We are very good at sowing seeds into your head.
Nope.

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We control all TV, radio and newspapers.
Didn't you already talk about communications and CCTV?

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We fabricate and manipulate all hatred, rumour, revenge and evil.
No we don't.

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We are a criminal cult, religion, network, organisation.
We we are not.

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We are 100% calculated derangement.
Nope.

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We destroy all genuine Masonic victim's groups, forums and truth-seekers.
Evidence of this is?

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We are protected by "The Order Of The Police"
No we are not.

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We have lodges in every Police, Government, NHS, Judiciary, Military Dept.
No we don't. Proof of this where? Pictures?

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We have a contact number if things go wrong.
We do?! That's new to me.

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We get rewarded for our persecution and allegiance.
Nope.

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We fabricate wars, poverty, politics, terrorism, etc.
Nope. If the world followed the values and ways of Freemasonry there wouldn't be violence in the world.

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We specialise in Masonic Theatre of all types, including terrorism.
What is Masonic Theatre? And no we don't condone terrorism.

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We kill the good guys and anything that represents good.
Evidence of this is?

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We infect everything we touch.
That's just rude and untrue.

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We strive for genocide.
What's the evidence of this?

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We keep criminal secrets upon pain of death.
Nope. We keep Masonic secrets.

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We are absolutely terrified to leave this criminal fraternity.
Not really. When I was Worshipful Master I signed a few demits of those members who requested it. They left and live safe and sound.

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We pretend to believe in a deity.
There is no pretending. We are all men of some kind of Faith.

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We believe in sacrifice, Lucifer, Satan, The Horned God and anything bad.
A lie, and a proven lie at that.

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We live in a parallel world to the ignorant law abiding taxpayers.
Another weird statement.

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We use thousands of different group names world-wide.
Didn't you use this one already. Yeah, right at the beginning. Still requesting what those names are.

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We get pleasure watching innocent profane people suffer.
Nope.

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We are so mentally messed up, we think we're in control.
We're not mental nor do we claim to be in control. Its the conspiracy theorists that think that.

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We are the most grand, wondrous, worshipful "LEMONS"
Not really.

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All religions, debating groups, secret societies or societies with secrets (their get out clause), etc, etc, are under the umbrella of Freekmasonry.
Another derogatory comment.
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Freemasonry: The Witchcraft Connection by William J. Schnoebelen [William Schnoebelen was deeply involved in both Witchcraft as a Wiccan high priest and the Masonic order for many years. He was a Mason for nine years and a Witch for sixteen years. In the Lodge, he held offices of Junior Warden in the Blue Lodge, Prelate in the Commandery of the York Rite, Master of the Veil in the Royal Arch degree, and Associate Patron in the Order of the Eastern Star. Additionally, he was a 32° Mason and a Shriner. He is now a Born Again Christian and the author of 5 books, including Masonry: Beyond the Light.] For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry…—1Samuel 15:23 In understanding the spiritual difficulties of a Born Again Christian being a Mason, it is necessary to realize that there are highly occult elements woven into the very warp and woof of Freemasonry. Thus, the Lodge is not just "another religion" like the Muslims or the Buddhists—although that alone should be enough to keep Christians from involving themselves in it. The nature and character of the Lodge's deepest theological underpinnings are rooted in Witchcraft and Paganism. Now that may be an astonishing assertion to some, especially to most Masons. However, it is very easily proven. Few people, within the Craft of Masonry or otherwise, perceive that just because a Bible lies open on the altar and Bible verses and characters play an important part in the ritual of the Lodge, that this does not prevent the Lodge from being of the nature of the occult or Witchcraft. This can be illustrated by a very simple illustration. Back in the 1970's, when I first became a Witch, a very popular how-to book on magic was Raymond Buckland's Popular Candle-Burning.1 In this book were "recipes" for spells for everything from healing, to love spells, to protection spells. On one set of pages of the book would be a spell for healing, complete with instructions on the burning and movement of certain colored candles. The spell would be a full-blown Witchcraft ritual, Pagan to the core! On the following pages would be the same ritual, with the same candles, the same instructions. However, the text of the "spell" would be drawn from the Psalms or other Bible verses. These were provided for readers who were a little too squeamish to actually do a Witchcraft incantation, but still wanted results. Now the question becomes: Even though those rituals were full of Psalms, were they still Witchcraft? Of course, the answer would have to be yes. In like manner, even though Bible phrases and characters abound in the Masonic ritual work, the presence of those elements cannot somehow "sanctify" what is essentially a Pagan ritual full of Witchcraft overtones. Defining Terms: Perhaps it would be helpful to have a few terms defined before we go further. Witchcraft (or Wicca,2 the term for "white" or good Witchcraft) can be broadly defined as a mystery religion based on the ancient fertility cults of Pre-Christian Europe. Many Witches are polytheists—meaning that they believe in more than one god or goddess. Some are monotheists, believing in only one deity. Even most polytheistic Witches today, however, acknowledge that ultimately there is one supreme deity somewhere. The popular saying by 20th century master occultist Dion Fortune (Violet Firth) speaks to this: "All Gods are one God, all Goddesses are one Goddess, and there is but one Initiator." Pressed, you will find that most knowledgeable Witches will reveal that the "one Initiator" is Lucifer, who is the Light-Bringer, the Illuminator, and the sun-deity. He is not felt to be a devil-figure by Wiccans, but only the consort of the Great Mother Goddess. Witchcraft, in its religious sense, involves the veneration of the forces of reproduction—both in plant, animal and human life. Thus, human and animal sexuality are revered, the cycle of the seasons celebrated; and rituals do frequently involve the use of ritual tools which symbolize the human reproductive organs (wands, daggers, goblets, cauldrons, etc.) Many Witchcraft groups even have ritual sex, believing that this is an important way to encounter the gods. The term, "mystery religion" means that it is a religion in which elements are kept hidden from the "profane" (non-members). You can only learn these elements by going through a formal initiation in which you are ceremonially set apart from the masses and sworn formally to secrecy. Only then are you entrusted with the group's secrets, and then in degrees. In other words, there are things a "third grade" or "third degree" Witch is allowed to know that a first degree Witch is not. A secondary element in Witchcraft is the belief in magic. However, it is only secondary—contrary to popular belief. A good—though broad—definition of magic which many Witches would accept is that given by magician (and 33° Mason) Aleister Crowley: "the art and science of causing change to occur in conformity with [your] will." Though this definition is broad enough to include things normally not thought of as magic, like picking up a pencil (you caused a change in the pencil's position to occur in conformity with your will); most Witches understand it to mainly apply to causing change to occur without a visible, tangible cause in the environment. Many Witches do not attempt to "work magic" (in the sense of trying to cause change to occur in the forces of nature or human beings) but just enjoy worshipping their gods or goddesses. Thus it is not an absolute requirement that Witch practice magic, or that a magician be a Witch. In fact, the above-mentioned Aleister Crowley would never have called himself a Witch (or warlock).3 Finally, we need to define Paganism. This is basically a belief in the forces of nature as being sacred. Pagans are usually pantheists, in that they belief that a kind of god-force is in everything—trees, animals, rocks, etc. Essentially, a Pagan believes most everything the Witch believes, but is kind of a lay person, whereas a Witch is more of a Priestess or Shaman. The typical Pagan may not have access to some of the deeper "mysteries" of Witchcraft which are not available to the un-initiated. Getting down to business: ritual resemblances With these definitions in mind, we can begin to examine the similarities between the Masonic theology and ritual and the workings of a Witchcraft group. One point, however, must be clarified. Modern Wicca is just that—modern. Although it claims mythic descent to groups back in the Stone Age, it is actually a comparatively modern religion. As it is currently constituted, Wicca is barely a century old. This is not to say that it doesn't draw on elements from the ancient mystery cults. To be certain, it does—to a high degree. However, it is a difficult task to ascertain whether contemporary Wicca so strongly resembles Freemasonry because two of its principle architects (Aleister Crowley and Gerald B. Gardner) were Masons; or whether that similarity is a derivation of more ancient practices. As interesting an academic point as that might be, it is essentially irrelevant to the broader question. If Masonic rituals were engrafted into Witchcraft in the late 19th and early 20th century, and if that melding was so seamless and effortless—even to the point that in some cases, the Wiccan rites were less bizarre and blasphemous than there Masonic counterpart, then what message does that send about Masonry? As a preacher friend of mine, Jim Spencer, observed, "If the devil can preach my sermons without changing them much, what does that say about my sermons?" With that point in mind, let us look first at the ritual similarities between contemporary Wicca and Freemasonry: A) Both are built on a foundational system of three degrees; with a few forms of Wicca offering some higher degrees after the third degree has been achieved. B) Both are secret societies; in that both membership rolls are secret, and secrets are kept from the general populace (to a greater or lesser degree) by both religions. Both generally meet in secret, except for rare open and public events. C) Both have highly ceremonial initiations to pass from one degree to another, including sworn oaths. D) Both have ceremonial purgings and purifications of their ritual space before commencing any ritual work. E) The precise similarities between the two groups are: Both groups… 1. Cause candidates to strip off all secular clothing 2. Cause the candidate to be divested of all metal 3. Hoodwink (blindfold) the candidate and ceremonially tie ropes around him—though the form of the tying varies. 4. Cause the candidate to stand in the Northeast corner of the "temple"4 in the first degree 5. Challenge the candidate by piercing their naked chest with a sharp instrument (Witches use a sword, Masons, the point of a compass) 6. Challenge the candidate with secret passwords 7. Lead the candidate blindfolded in a circumambulation (walking around) of the temple. 8. Require the candidate to swear solemn oaths of secrecy before being given custody of the secrets of the group. Interestingly enough, the oaths of a Witch are much milder and less gruesome than the oaths of a Freemason. Here is the text of a first grade oath from the Witchcraft Book of Shadows (ritual work-book): I, [NAME], in the presence of the Mighty Ones, do of my own free will and accord, most solemnly swear that I will ever keep the secrets of the Arte [Magical Arts—author] and never reveal the secrets of the Arte, except it be to a proper person, properly prepared and within a magic circle such as I am now in. All this I swear, by all my hopes of a future life, mindful that my measure has been taken; and may my weapons turn against me, if I should break this, my solemn oath.5 This sounds ridiculously mild in comparison to the 1° oath of an Entered Apprentice Mason, which is too long to quote in its entirety, but which ends like this: All this I most solemnly and sincerely promise and swear, with a firm and steadfast resolution to keep and perform the same…binding myself under no less penalty than that of having my throat cut across, my tongue torn out by its roots, and my body buried in the rough sands of the sea, at low water mark, where the tide ebbs and flows twice in twenty-four hours, should I ever knowingly violate this my Entered Apprentice obligation, so help me God and keep me steadfast in the due performance of the same.6 As all students of Freemasonry know, that grisly oath is but the beginning in a series of ever more horrid oaths which the candidate is required to take. The oaths of the three degrees of Witchcraft are like a Sunday School lesson by comparison! But, let's return to our list of similarities: 9. Both have a ceremonial un-hoodwinking of the candidate, following the oath, before lighted candles which is intended to bring "illumination." 10. Both convey to the new initiate the "working tools" pertinent to that degree, and each of their uses are taught to them. 11. In both, the tools have correspondences both in the ceremonial realm, and in similarities to human reproduction. 12. Both, in the higher degrees, take the initiate through a ritual death-and-rebirth experience, in which the initiate acts the part of a hero (heroine) of the Craft. 13. Both cause the candidate to endure (while being blindfolded) being picked up, spun around, carried around, being jostled or struck from person to person. This is supposed to produce an "altered state of consciousness." 14. Both Wicca and Freemasonry are, by co-incidence or design, both referred to as "The Craft." philosophical similarities Having given almost two dozen precise similarities between the ritual work of Witchcraft and the Lodge, it should not surprise us to see that there is also some doctrinal or philosophical resemblance between the two: A. Both Witches and Masons revere the powers of human reproduction (albeit most Masons do so unknowingly). The most obvious example of this is the use of the ceremonial Masonic apron, which covers the "Holy of Holies" of Freemasonry, the male groin area. This fact has been adequately documented in many places (elsewhere in this volume?).7 B. The authorities of Freemasonry, most notably Albert Pike, 33° and Manly P. Hall, 33° (both occultists par excellance) write that the essential, underlying philosophy of Freemasonry is Kabbalism and Gnosticism.8 Kabbalism is a system of Jewish mysticism and magic and is the foundational element in modern Witchcraft. Virtually all of the great Witches and sorcerers of this century were Kabbalists. Gnosticism is an ancient, anti-Christian heresy best summarized by the statement: "One is saved by acquiring secret, unknown knowledge (Greek: gnosis)." Thus, all mystery religions, including Witchcraft and Masonry are, per force, Gnostic in character. C. Both Witches and Freemasons seek salvation through "illumination" or receiving "The Light." This is, in a way, a corollary to (B), but it is important, because of the centrality of this symbolism in both sects. D. Both groups teach a kind of salvation by works, not grace.9 The occult doctrine of reincarnation is explicitly taught in Witchcraft and implicitly taught in the Lodge. E. Finally, both groups deny the unique character and mission of the Lord Jesus Christ.10 Both deny the resurrection of Christ.11 Most people would have no trouble believing that Witches deny these beliefs, but in this, the Wicca are identical to the theology of the Lodge. Getting to the root There are also significant historical antecedents which go a long way towards explaining this current "coziness" between Witchcraft and Masonry. It can be readily shown that Freemasonry is rooted in the medieval occult societies of Europe, such as the Templars and the Rosicrucians.12 Indeed, many Masonic writers boast about these connections. Additional associations pop up with the dangerously subversive Illuminati Ordnen of Adam Weishaupt in the 18th century.13 It is vital to understand that this past interchange between Masonry and these various occult groups did not stop in the 18th century. If anything, it has grown more prominent in the past century. There is something about the Lodge that has always attracted sorcerers. The historical list of occultists and Witches in the last century who were Freemasons reads like a Who's Who of 20th century occultism: •Arthur Edward Waite—occult writer and Masonic historian •Dr. Wynn Westcott—member of the Societas Rosicruciana in Anglia and founding member of the occult Order of the Golden Dawn—the most influential magical society of the 19th - early 20th century. •S. L. MacGregor Mathers—co-founder of the Golden Dawn. •Aleister Crowley—master Satanist of this century and founder of the anti-christ religion of Thelema—claimed to be "The Great Beast 666". •Dr. Gerard Encaussé—(Papus) masterful author, teacher of the Tarot and leader of the occult Martiniste society. •Dr. Theodore Reuss—head of the O.T.O., a German occult/satanic society which made Crowley its head for the British Isles. •George Pickingill—the Grand Master Witch of 19th century England, leader of the "Pickingill covens." •Annie Besant—leader of the occult Theosophical society and Co-Masonic hierarch (Yes, there are female Masons!)14 •Alice Bailey—founder of the proto-New Age organization, Lucis (formerly Lucifer) Trust. •Bishop Charles W. Leadbetter—Theosophist, mentor to the failed New Age "Christ", Krishnamurti, and prelate in the occult Liberal Catholic Church •Manly P. Hall—Rosicrucian adept, author, founder of the Philosophical Research Society. •Gerald B. Gardner—founder of the modern Wiccan (white Witchcraft) revival. •Alex Sanders—self-styled "King of the Witches" in London and one of the most influential leaders of Wicca after Gardner. Would you really wish to belong to an organization which welcomed these powerful sorcerers into its midst with open arms? This is not to mention the many minor occultists (as I was), who are in the lodge—drawn by its mysterious power. At least three or four of my male Witch friends were in the Masons, and all of my leaders were! There is a real reason for this strong affinity between Masonry and Witchcraft. It is because the Lodge is plugged into an international network of Witchcraft—a hierarchy of evil. The "All-Seeing Eye" of the Masons is, of course, an occult symbol.15 Its use on the Great Seal of the United States is not without significance either (see the back of any dollar bill). You will note that the "Eye" is there perched atop an incomplete pyramid with the date (in Roman numerals) of 1776 A.D. at the bottom. The year 1776 is also the year that Adam Weishaupt founded the Illuminati! Then realize that the trapezoid (what the unfinished pyramid really is) is a most significant symbol in Satanism.16 The symbol on that seal is actually a metaphor for the oppressive hierarchy which reigns over the Masonic lodge, and by extension, over much of U.S. government; and the "Eye" symbolizes Lucifer's dominion over it. Being a Mason (of whatever degree) is like going through your life with all that spiritual garbage weighing down on you. It is like having a King Kong-sized monkey on your back! While all levels of Masonry have their share of Witches; the Palladium, the Illuminati, the Ancient rites and the Supreme Council are especially likely to have them, in one form or another. The Mason is "unequally yoked" together with all these unbelievers and Witches in rebellion to the word of God (2 Corinthians 6:14-18) and that alone is enough to knock the spiritual stuffing out of any man, even supposedly "good, solid Christians"! You see, in an occult sense, Freemasonry is much like the fabled "pyramid scheme." It is a hierarchy in which the highest levels leech off the lower levels. Just as in the marketing schemes, the person at the top of the pyramid draws in most of the revenues because of the efforts of hundreds or thousands of people under him, so the same element works within the lodge, even as it does—to a much smaller degree—in a Witchcraft coven! First of all, it is a financial pyramid. We have already mentioned that a Mason must spend hundreds of dollars, perhaps close to a thousand, to go through the degrees. Additionally, they must pay dues every year to each and every body they have joined. This could amount, depending on the level of involvement, to several hundred dollars a year. While some of that money goes into necessities, and some of it goes into charity, some of it also ends up in places of which Lodge members have no knowledge. Of course, our local leaders were obviously not getting rich, but there was a lot of free-floating cash somewhere up in the ranks. "Psychic Vampires" IN THE LEADERSHIP? In the occult, we used to talk about psychic vampires—people who just seemed to suck the life out of a person. Of course, black magicians excel in this. They leave people feeling drained. What most people don't realize is that an organization can function in much the same way. The Lodge functions like a spiritual sponge in many ways. Think of all the millions of man hours Masons put into their lodge work: memorizing the degree material, attendance at meetings, extracurricular lodge activities (dinners, banquets, funerals, picnics). Those Masons who are Christians pour hours of time and energy into the lodge, and it just laps it up and begs for more. I know, I used to be heavily involved in lodge work. I was out of the house at least two week nights! Then, because I was a lodge officer, I had to spend additional hours working on memorizing the ritual work. I had to be there before the lodge opened and after it closed. I had to attend all lodge functions and funerals. Think of the lodge meeting itself—it is opened in solemn fashion, with a ritual which may take fifteen to twenty minutes. If there is an initiation, the meeting can run to hours, sometimes three or four hours for third degree. All that energy is going somewhere, friends, and it isn't to God! I can only speak from Witchcraft experience, but quite often our leaders would just suck the energy right out of us. They were accomplished psychic vampires, whether they realized it or not. Someone, somewhere, is getting an awful lot of energy out of these thousands of lodge meetings. Ultimately, of course, it is Lucifer, who is delighted to receive it as worship! This is energy not being expended in Godly church activities. These men could be teaching Bible studies, running youth groups, visiting the sick or doing neighborhood witnessing. But no, they are sitting in a lodge room watching ancient and dusty mummery being performed while the light of the Holy Spirit within them flickers out. Over and over, we see vital Christians who join the lodge, don't see the trap, and then gradually it sucks all the life out of their walk with Jesus. It banks their fires of zeal and turns them, ultimately, into dead backsliders. Some stop going to church. Now this may not happen to all Christian Masons, but if it hasn't, it is only because of God's mercy. The Holy Spirit will not continue to bless a man who continually sups at the devil's table. (1 Corinthians 10:21, Genesis 6:3) Sooner or later, something will give. Sadly, it is often the church activity. The Image of Jealousy! The Masonic temple is a temple of Witchcraft! There can be little doubt about that. Veiled within its symbols are the deities and even the working tools of Witchcraft! As has been shown, the square and compasses are representations of the generative organs—the "sacred altar" of Witchcraft! The blazing star at the center of the lodge is the Witch's pentagram, symbol of the god of Satanism, Set! The Letter "G" stands for generativity, sexual potency. The resemblances between Freemasonry and Witchcraft are manifold and striking and should chill the bones of any Mason. If Freemasonry is so Godly, how could it possibly be interchanged by both Witches and Satanists so freely? Beyond that, the point needs to be made that virtually all of the above mentioned resemblances are part of the ancient practices of pagan antiquity as well. Witches 2,000 years ago were doing the same things that Masons are doing today. Masonic writers boast of this (although they don't use the word "Witch," they talk about "mystery religions," but it is the same thing). Let's face it, the Masonic tie tacks and rings which so many Masons wear proudly to their churches on Sunday are sexual idols. The true God of the Bible is not a sex organ! That may seem a ridiculously obvious statement to make, but the Mason needs to be reminded of it. This is the very "image of jealousy, which provoketh to jealousy" (Ezekiel 8:3). The gods of all the pagan nations around Israel like Ba'al were all sexual idols! This is precisely what God does not want in His church, and yet all these Masons are flaunting both their idols and their membership. It is a testimony to the graciousness and loving-kindness of Father God that these churches are not flattened by the breath of His nostrils—that they are not "vomited out" of His mouth (Revelation 3:16). However, both they and their individual members may well be paying a horrible price for their continued winking at the sin of Freemasonry in their camp! Endnotes: 1 Llewellyn Publications, St. Paul, MN. 1972. 2 For a complete examination of this religion from a Christian perspective, see WICCA: SATAN'S LITTLE WHITE LIE, by the author, Chick Publications, Chino, CA. 1990. 3 Contrary to popular belief, most male witches do not wish to be called warlocks. The term actually is a derivation of an old English word, meaning "traitor." Today, the word warlock is mostly used by male Satanist witches in application to themselves. Few Wiccans would wish to use the term. 4 In Witchcraft, the "temple" is frequently not a building, but rather a sacred "Magic Circle" laid down on the floor of a room with great ceremony. It is the sacred space of the Wicca, and serves the same function as a temple does to the Mason. 5 Taken from a private copy of the Book of Shadows in the author's possession. Copies of this oath, however, can be found in Stewart Farrar's WHAT WITCHES DO, THE GRIMOIRE OF LADY SHEBA, and June Johns' KING OF THE WITCHES, as well as other writings. 6 Malcolm C. Duncan, DUNCAN'S RITUAL MONITOR, David McKay Co., Inc., New York, n.d., p.34-35. 7 Schnoebelen, MASONRY: BEYOND THE LIGHT, Chick, Chino, CA. 1991, p.146, 155-160, 214-215. 8 See Albert Pike, MORALS AND DOGMA, p.839, 22, 744-45, etc.; Manly P. Hall, THE LOST KEYS OF FREEMASONRY, p. 48. 9 Duncan, op. cit., p.129, and TENNESSEE CRAFTSMEN OR MASONIC TEXTBOOK, Grand Lodge of Tennessee, 1983, p. 17. 10 R. S. Clymer, THE MYSTICISM OF MASONRY, 1900, p. 47; J.D. Buck, SYMBOLISM OR MYSTIC MASONRY, 1925, p. 57. 11 Pike, p.539, and Henry C. Clausen, PRACTICE AND PROCEDURE FOR THE SCOTTISH RITE, Supreme Council, 33°, Washington, DC, 1981, pp. 75-77. 12 Schnoebelen, MASONRY, pp.161-178. 13 ibid., p.179-190. 14 The author and his wife were members of a Co-Masonic Lodge. These are more openly occult and are under the rite of L'Droit Humaine (Human Rights Lodge). They admit men and women as equals. Co-Masonry is affiliated with the Theosophical Society and today finds its headquarters in Larkspur, CO. 15 William Schnoebelen & James R. Spencer, WHITED SEPULCHERS, Triple J Publications, Boise, ID, 1990, p.20 16 ibid., p. 44-50, citing material found in master Satanist Anton LaVey's newsletter, "The Cloven Hoof", vol. VIII, #6. U can not refute... Masonic authors such as PIKE,Mann.. and others agree with me.. Who is Jabalon ????? u want it, i can bringh proof from your masonic authors, u nuts ???
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FREEMasons, A Sucker Born Per minute Freemasons, like everyone else, are responsible for the cleanliness of their home. The occupant of a secret house within a secret house within a secret house cannot clean if he cannot see the number of rooms or what they contain. Their house is a stinking cesspool. Look to the Masons for the guilty party if anything happens to me. I believe that they have murdered in the past and that they will murder in the future. Secret #2 ex mason spills the beans Hoodwinked Mason Helena Blavatsky, co-Mason and founder of Theosophy, was unusually candid when she once remarked, "What is one to do, when in order to rule men, it is necessary to deceive them?... For almost invariably the more simple, the more silly, and the more gross the phenomenon, the more likely it is to succeed."19 Hoodwinked! Pity the poor, foolish man who becomes a Freemason! In the very first degree ritual, that of Entered Apprentice, a blindfold is put over his eyes, and a cable-tow is hung around his neck. Symbolically, the dumb candidate is "HOODWINKED." Little does he know that his superiors intentionally set out to deceive the candidate and they contrive their deceit through all the ritual degrees up to and including the 33rd. So, in effect, Masons are lied to, tricked, made fun of, and intentionally led astray, with only a little knowledge added to their brain reservoirs as they advance up the chain. Meanwhile, the poor, pitiful souls imagine they are really in on all the super-duper secrets of the Craft. Their Masonic superiors play them all for suckers. P.T. Barnum, of Ringling Brothers, Barnum & Bailey Circus fame, surely was right when he exclaimed, "There's a sucker born every minute." To which yours truly, author of , might add: "...and a 32nd or 33rd degree Mason is behind the veil laughing his head off and rolling in the aisle every time a new sucker is initiated into the 1st degree of Freemasonry." http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False...nd_judaism.pdf Do they simply enjoy mocking and tricking us? Teasing and playing with our minds, realizing that the vast majority of people in society are willing dupes? It was, after all, serial killer John Wayne Gacy—certainly a psychopathic personality — who once bragged, "A clown could get away with murder." Gacy, you see, enjoyed dressing up as a mischievous and gleeful clown and visiting hospital wards to cheer up young male patients. He also took great pleasure, in the confines of his home, in torturing and killing young boys. All of these are reasons why psychopaths of the Illuminati pose and parade occultly in front of cameras, exchange ritual handshakes, and otherwise taunt the public. Remember, according to Webster's, the psychopath is immoral, selfishly flaunts societal mores, is infantile in personality, is delusional, and has feelings of grandeur and omnipotence. Men who think they are omnipotent Gods must take extreme delight in putting things over the masses whom they consider inferior and sub-human. The authors of A Dictionary of Symbols note that the hand expresses "ideas of action, as well as those of power and dominion." They say it is also a sign of royalty. The Jewish Kabbala (or Cabala) teaches that the left hand is the "hand of punishment," while the righthand is the "hand of blessing."11 A hand with finger pointed to or touching the lip indicates, "Be silent." A finger touching or pointing to the head signifies "intellect or wisdom." Of course, it is super-easy, almost like taking candy from a baby, to disabuse the Masonic whiner and complainer hollering that you or I have slandered the Masons by denying their order's "Christian attributes." After all, there are scores of points to make that blow apart the silly notion that the Masonic Lodge or similar groups are even vaguely "Christian" in nature. But the easiest way to handle such a complaint is to ask the Mason if he has reached the Royal Arch Mason ritual level or equivalent (13th degree in the Scottish Rite). If he answers "yes," then, uh oh, he is in big, big trouble. then ask him about the name of his sacred God revealed in the Royal Arch degree ritual; that is, I ask him about Jahbuhlun. And usually, I can hear either a long uninterrupted stutter, or else simply a great gasping sound. Generally, that ends the discussion right there. A Mason definitely does not want to publicly discuss that name, Jahbuhlun. Anything but that. Bamm! He's gone. And I can understand why. The Blue Lodge Masons, encompassing the first three degrees of Masonry, are instructed that they are seeking the Lost Word or the Lost Name of God... It isn't until they reach the level of Royal Arch Masonry (seventh degree, York Rite) that they discover that the Lost Name of God wasn't lost after all. It's at this level that they learn the sacred name of Masonry's God. The name Jahbuhlun has three syllables representing a composite God made up of three subordinate deities. The Masonic material identifies the three as Yah (or Yahweh), Baal, and Osiris. Logically, the name should be spelled Yah-Baal-On, but Duncan's Masonic Ritual and Monitor admits that over the years the spelling has been "corrupted" by Freemasonry until it reached its current form.1 Decker correctly asserts that, "What these men are doing is worshipping a demon God so far removed from the real God that this worship must surely defile the holiness of God and guarantee those who pronounce that name in such a ceremony a swift ride to Hell..."2 Interestingly, in the ritual drama, the three Masons doing the pronouncing of Jahbuhlun are said to have come from Babylon! So, we have a ritual —the 13th degree in the Scottish Rite and 7th in the York Rite—in which three "Masters" come from Babylon to instruct the candidate on how to build the Royal Arch (symbolically, how to rebuild the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem and thus establish the kingdom of the elite and their devil God on earth). The Lost Word Found Moreover, the three messengers from Babylon inform the candidate that the true name of God, the name that had been lost for so long, is not Jesus, but is Jahbuhlun. They conveniently omit mention of the fact that this is, in fact, the name of a monstrous DEVIL God, that the name is an unholy and blasphemous composite of Jahweh, Baal, and Osiris, or On. No wonder Masonic authority W.L. Wilmshurst, in his highly thought of (by Masons) The Meaning of Masonry, proclaims this degree so vital to the transformation of the candidate's life. He even suggests that in attaining this Degree, one "exhibits the attainment of a new order of life."4 The Royal Arch Degree, Wilmshurst emphasizes, provides "a supremely high level of thought and instruction" for the Mason attaining it.5 Born Again or Demon-Possessed? What does Wimshurst mean when he says the adept has attained a "new order of life?" I believe the candidate receives a counterfeit born again experience, receiving the very spirit of Lucifer into his bosom as a result of conforming to the requirements of this degree. In accepting the devil God Jahbuhlun as the sacred name of God the man rising to this level in Masonry or a similar sect becomes demon possessed, full of the devil, headed for hell, prepared to do the most wicked and foul deeds possible for his hidden deity, Baphomet, aka Lucifer, aka Satan, aka Jahbuhlun. Now, the fatal (ending in spiritual death) sign that is taught for this degree is the one you will find men giving in the photographs in this chapter. Notably, only higher-level initiates and adepts will typically be seen giving this evil sign stamping them as demon-possessed disciples of Satan. I call this sign the Hidden Hand of the Men of Jahbuhlun. Wine From A Human Skull Many other facets and activities pertaining to this degree's ritual stamp it as pure Luciferian and its holder as a Lucifer worshipper. During the initiation into the seventh degree Royal Arch Mason (York Rite) or 13th degree (Scottish Rite), the candidate drinks wine from a human skull. By this monstrous act, he reinforces the fact that he has taken an oath swearing to "have his skull struck off and his brains exposed to the scorching rays of a median sun" should he ever divulge Masonic secrets. He goes on to demand that if he does divulge secrets, may all the sins of the dead person whose skull he is drinking from be heaped upon his, the candidate's, head.6 So we see that the Mason's newfound "God," Jahbuhlun (Jah-Baal-On), is a rigid taskmaster who does not look kindly on traitors and blabbers. It was the Canaanite God Baal, of course, to whom the backslidden Jews and pagans sacrificed their children in the fire. You'll recall that the prophet Elijah brought the message of God's judgment against those who worshipped bloodthirsty Baal, who, in reality, is merely an idolatrous representation of Satan. Yes, Baal is the devil.
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Freemasonry vs. Round Table Fri Oct 10, 2008 16:04FPRIVATE "TYPE=PICT;ALT=Report this post to the editors" Freemasonry is not a harmless organisation and cannot in any way be compared to Round Table/Rotary. Freemasonry exists to promote the interests of Freemasons themselves, not for the benefits of others. Money given to outside charities by freemasons is given grudgingly, as a sop to it's many critics. I was formerly Charity Steward for a masonic district, overseeing Charitable aspects of 26 lodges. Believe me, I was instructed by senior masons to direct only the smallest amounts possible to non-masonic organisations. I left after some twelve years, finally persuaded that Freemasonry , in general, is not for the common good, and some degrees, Holy Royal Arch, Rose Croix, in particular, are blashemous and dangerous. Some members view Freemasonry as more important than family or career; it is rather pathetic to see such misguided men parading around the lodge room, full of authority but having made little or no impact on the real world.There are many sad, pompous little pricks amongst it's members. Round Table (of which I was a member, many years ago) is a fun organisation, typically for hard living young professionals who want to give somrthing back whilst enjoying themselves in a sometimes boisterous fashion. However, they are not a self help organisation, they are focussed on others and what help they can give. It is above all a practical organisation, more akin to painting Alms Houses than dressing in archaic aprons and conducting bizarre ceremonies. I think that at the top (32nd and 33rd gegree level,) Freemasonry is dangerously influential in our society, especially in the Police Force and Insurance. Masonic lodges are awash with them!
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