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Sorry, pal, but you portray yourself to be of great importance.
So you're putting words in my mouth because of your assumptions?

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You might think you're fine here, but you're not.

I'm about ready to ban you for whatever it was I said I was going to ban you for several days ago when I posted the following in response to your inquiry as to what rule you broke that would result in your banishment from the forum.

Quit threatening and do it already. I get threatened by another member, I post the exerpt with the link to the full quote and I PM'd you the link to the full quote and yet, I'm the one being threatened with banishment? That tells me a lot about your character, or a lack thereof.
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FYI, Club Conspiracy can ban any member for any reason or for no reason at all.
I know. You've said that before.

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Old 11-07-2010, 11:17 PM
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So you're putting words in my mouth because of your assumptions?


[/b]Quit threatening and do it already. I get threatened by another member, I post the exerpt with the link to the full quote and I PM'd you the link to the full quote and yet, I'm the one being threatened with banishment? That tells me a lot about your character, or a lack thereof.

I know. You've said that before.
Sorry, pal, but I haven't put any words in your mouth and I haven't made any assumptions.

The way you quote is really annoying.

JBoy did not threaten you.

Yes.

What I post tells you alot about my character and not any lack thereof because my character lacks nothing, but your character appears to be lacking in many areas.
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Old 11-07-2010, 11:19 PM
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Okay, KSigMason, you want me to quit threatening and ban you already.

Okay, fine.

I will honor your request.
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You completely lack any rational arguing ability. I provide evidence. You don't. You lose.
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Okay, KSigMason, you want me to quit threatening and ban you already.

Okay, fine.

I will honor your request.
Well, so far, it has been nothing but threats...over nothing except your intolerance or inability to argue rationally.
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Old 11-07-2010, 11:26 PM
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Well, so far, it has been nothing but threats...over nothing except your intolerance or inability to argue rationally.
Sorry, pal, but I'm not intolerant nor do I have an inability to argue rationally.

You've been banned for two weeks.
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Old 11-08-2010, 05:57 AM
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All freekmasons do is tie your time..annoy..any way they are taught...get under your skin.. I see it all the time in all the gangstalking forums... Lot of it is "socket puppetry "..Baby MASON would love to bring to this site extreme turmoil, along with sock puppetry and a goon or two to bully all here !!!.. I highly respect you Blue Angel for your sane mind and ABSOLUTE truth. Non Mason doctors have published numerous articles on behavior of freemasons belonging to a cult...showing/proving that they have serious mental disorders. i wil publish here for all to see..
Just a example of how bizarre BABY MASON is, Look how he parades around here on this forum..He is un aware in his polluted/warped mind that defending freemasons is a proud thing to do as a KNIGHT IN SHINING ARMOR . That shows ,first hand, how sick these people are !!!

And when these articles are published here, All the DOCTORS are lieing....ALL are lieing....arrested pedophiles...were not masons. JUST TRY TO BE A SCOUT MASTER WITHOUT BEING A MASON.. I post here to expose.. ALL is fact, i do not fabricate anything....After this, im going to a mason site and use mason tactics...You see, MASON BABY, the sane have no desire to harass people.You will be a mason in your grave... they never really get all that has been programmed into them..

OZ and Alice, all proven to be triggers.. mind control.. all proven.. exposed and can be viewed in CIA documents..This BABY MASON dont understand. I read too and i am 10 times smarter than he or she...You just never know the genders..or could be both...ALL one has to do is google. BABY MASONS DAYS ARE OVER . Thank you lord for the internet..ALL the new interviews coming from ex-mason slaves.
These interviews were given by professionals, not masons and there corrupt ways.
These people were tortured. not fiction. Yet we see a total mentally screwed
whatever BABY Mason is.,WHEN THE FACTS ARE LAYED OUT ON THE TABLE, UP TO HIS FACE.Extreme bizarre is all i can say..


ANYBODY CAN BE ANYTHING.. I see a thing..on this WWW.
He, baby mason, likes to hide in armor...to be a god...I see it, its plain as day.. his agatar proves that..A PURE SATANIC KNIGHT. The kind that bend over every nite for there masters. This is not well known, but in prison, they have harmones to feed the "ONES" to produce breasts....

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Old 11-08-2010, 08:48 AM
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Viewing Audience...Can read between lines... they know whats garbage and not !!!


WALMART/WORLDMART 21st Century Metro Global Communities
Real goals of "land use planning", special corporate interests managing the slave plantation

Real meaning of "SUSTAINABILITY"

----- Original Message -----
From: spiker
To: RUMORMILLNEWS@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:27 PM
Subject: [RMN2] Wal-Mart and public assistance


It has been said that more members of Wal-Mart's employee's families are on
the public assistance rolls, than any other company in the USA. That is a
pretty sorry record for the largest employer in America to have.

Wal-Mart Commercials Turn Workers' Frowns Upside Down Employees Told How to
Get Public Assistance While Company Makes Billions
Wal-Mart Commercials Turn Workers' Frowns Upside Down

New Report Details Wal-Mart's Labor Abuses and Hidden Costs
http://edworkforce.house.gov/democrats/releases/rel21604.html

Corporate Greed vs. Public Good, Where America Shops
Corporate Greed vs. Public Good, Where America Sho

Wal-Mart, the Abuse of Eminent Domain and Corporate Welfare
Wal-Mart, Eminent Domain and Corporate Welfare



Not by accident the worlds largest corporation is tying in to "state" services, not providing benefits, exploiting people bringing in third world cultural shift, wiping out the people and small businesses everywhere it plants its greedy seeds. Along with insurance companies, banks, agencies, services are all one operation, more corporate every day ..... the current focus on churches and non profits taking over state agency operations is a RUSE and a TOTALLY INTENTIONAL DECEPTION. This is just rearranging the scheme as the people see now that we are being exploited and liquidated by our corporate masters we thought we elected to protect and serve us..... Like "To Serve Man" by Rod Serling, they have served us up to their elitist brotherhood. "He who has the gold makes the rules". Literally these same corporate masters have us now eating our own DNA in plants and other abominations being "improved" daily. It is ALL connected.... Soilent green comes to mind.... the real meaning of "sustainability"....

People dont think of Walmart as the government but it has a bigger budget than many countries in the world. The technology now is such that where you are is not the entity, now it is money based, so it doesnt matter if you are just a computer in the Bahamas siphoning off all kinds of private offshore revenue, or a big country with lots of people... the people are called a commodity in this scheme, no rights at all. Only BIG CORP gets to do whatever it wants to with impunity to the constitutional government that WAS OUR REPUBLIC.... This has already gone so far that it is not a future thing, it is process already in place and damage is being done right now that is going to have to be undone IF we get this stopped and turned back around to the law and courts of judicial due process where we can bring anyone, no matter how rich or powerful, and level them in the courtroom to the equal prosecution before the TRUTH as with the people.

WE HAVE TO DO THIS NOW AND STOP EVERYTHING THAT MOVES THE CORPORATE MACHINE NOW BEFORE WE LOOK LIKE IRAQ OR PALESTINE.... IT IS HERE NOW PEOPLE...... WALMART DOES NOT CARE ABOUT PEOPLE.... WHY DO YOU THINK THEY HAVE TO ADVERTISE "WE ARE PEOPLE LIKE YOU" ON TV ? ALL THE BANK, INSURANCE, DRUG ADS ALL SAY THIS... THEY ARE NOT HUMAN....... IT IS TV.... IT IS ILLUSION.... SO ARE THE LIES OF THE CORPORATE SOCIALIST STATE NOW IN PLACE CALLED UNITED STATES INC.

ALWAYS WHAT THEY SAY IS TOTALLY OPPOSITE TO THE TRUTH... THAT IS A RULE WITH LIARS AND THEIVES. WATCH WHAT THEY DO NOT WHAT THEY SAY....THEY ARE TAKING OVER THE WORLD TELLING YOU THEY ARE PROTECTING YOU OR HELPING YOU, LIKE THEY ARE HELPING ALL THE CHILDREN IN IRAQ RIGHT NOW AS WE MURDER THEM WITH MISSILES FROM HELICOPTERS THEY CALL "GUNSHIPS"... .THE USA IS DOING THIS RIGHT NOW ALL OVER IRAQ - MAYBE TO PROTECT ALL THE PEOPLE WE WILL INCINERATE THE WHOLE COUNTRY WITH OUR OWN SOLDIERS, TOO BAD, THEY HAD TO BE SACRIFICED THE DEMONS AT THE TOP WILL SAY.... THIS IS CALLED "THE EXTRA-JUDICIAL REMEDY" IN THE USA BY THE VIPER HEADS DOING THIS.

Combined with almost every other corporation in the last two years moving offshore with its workers or entirely with whole companies.... while our soldiers are dying and killing in the middle east for sustainability to corporate interests (Recently is was disclosed that Michelen group in France was the corporate interest at the core of the Vietnam war.... WWI was called "the corporate war", while the managers of the world have been moving to dominate the whole world, in their empire building, DOING THIS IN A CORPORATE GUISE.....

Where people think there is still a difference between corporations and government that is total deception that has been perpetrated for way too long. It is a ONE HANDS GROUP now global, the bar associations provide the armies in the offices, banks and agencies, the soldiers and police are the armies on the streets - both acting in unconstitutional process occupying the lawful offices of the people. These have NO alliances to the people at all, are not bonded, judges without lawful oaths, on and on. On our website A Voice for Children there are two maps, click on "global agenda", one map shows the bases of Chinese "ships" off the coasts east and West, North and South around the USA now..... and also a map called the UN Biodiversity map that shows how the corporate interests intend to divvy up their plunder, seizing the land and the property from all of the people, no unlicensed people in their new communities..... all people are slaves to the corporate statutory scheme or they do not get to survive.... already they are creating databases PRE BIRTH and you will have a services plan IF you are perfect and otherwise aborted, forced by the state assessors, who also are already seizing the babies off the breast not five minutes old routinely..... these are UNBONDED children and BROKEN MOTHERS and FATHERS..... these are human necessities, INHERENT to provide for the infant and mother to bond at birth.... zookeepers wont even do this, yet humans are being destroyed this way already.... and the federal government just moved to start a new federal database of the preborn, births and preschool children ...

This is all related because the databases are how they accomplish it. We have seen signs for some time that Walmart is acting like a state agency more and more. We watched the special interest St. Vincent De Paul come in to Mt Angel along with Providence and take over completely in the corporate interest.... just like Walmart does ..... they bypassed all the rules for others to build there, no meetings, no public notification, saturate the mail and local newspapers with their advertisement, compromise and coerce certain parties to sell forcing others into limited leverage with their properties... we saw the whole thing and found out these "special interests" are acting criminally, stealing property, using ordinances and rules to condemn property of any who dare stand in their way....

As of now, the courts proceed as a fact that they own your property, your children, your homes, your business, YOU in fact. They will tell you to your face that you agree with it by being born and that it is called implied consent. If you do not know your rights you wont know what to say after that and he will say now that you definitely agree with his process because you did not claim to be a human, and not a representative human in that courtroom..... that is how crazy it is... and then they strip you of everything while you stand there making the record of all the laws he is violating at that moment...

Since we cant control what they do, this IS what we do.... we take back control of our sovereignty this way.... force accountability.... stop this cancer from spreading anymore, go back to people's rights and limited Republican government, wherein the people are the authority over themselves, not consensus.

The thing to see is that it is INTENTIONAL.... Walmart KNOWS they are setting up these situations so the people are using state services along with their low paying jobs... they are also getting subsidized housing and loans, dont own anything.... all taken at the will of the corporation through "their" courts over any or no reason - no crime necessary in their scheme to come in on you.... one encounter... and all the time you are databased, at work, at your subsidized home, with your monitored credit cards, in your monitored doctors visits and now he is a mandatory reporter to the state.... that same self circuitous route - through the courts and back to the agencies., the money always being moved around, exploiting all that can be sucked dry.

STOP ALL THIS CORPORATE INTEREST. CORPORATIONS DO NOT HAVE RIGHTS. CANNOT MAKE CLAIMS. CANNOT CONTRACT. WHEN YOU BRING THEM INTO COURT NO HUMAN APPEARS !!! ONLY DIFFERENT REPRESENTATIVES APPEAR OR NO ONE AT ALL.

AGAIN, IT ALL FILTERS THROUGH A COURT, AND ONLY ON THE PUBLIC RECORD IN PUBLIC ASSEMBLIES DO YOU HAVE THEM IN A SWORN SETTING WHERE THEIR SILENCE BECOMES THEIR GUILT - THEY EITHER ADMIT WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN DOING OR CANT ANSWER.... EITHER WAY ONLY THEN CAN THE PEOPLE REALLY SEE THE VIPER INSIDE THE HUMAN FACADE AND BLACK ROBES. WE HAVE SEEN IT MANY TIMES, EVEN HAVE THEM ON VIDEOTAPE FOR ALL TO SEE.... NOTHING HUMAN ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE DOING.... THIS IS SLAVES AND EXPLOITATION....

WHEN THE CORPORATE MASTERS DECIDED THAT THEY WOULD CREATE A GLOBAL GOVERNMENT, IS WAS NOT A REPUBLIC THEY INTENDED TO CREATE..... THEY ARE THE MASTERS, THE PEOPLE ARE THE SLAVES, ONLY ALLOWED TO "SUSTAIN" IF THEY "SUSTAIN" THE SYSTEM... THAT IS HOW IT WORKS .... ALSO DE POPULATION IS PART OF THEIR SCHEME.... OREGON HAS THREE MILLION NOW - THE SUSTAINABILITY LEVEL IS SAID TO BE 800,000.... interesting....

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Old 11-08-2010, 09:31 AM
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Would'nt You Know...Sam & daughters, 100% Illuminati/Mason
Stalking victims know all too well of WALMart Tactics of stalking them in and out of the stores.some Wal-Mart .... employees dont even realize, how they are drown in, YET, many many are part of the game...they let stalkers come from the streets and harass....
Here is more of wal marts character.....


Wal-Mart Dungeon in China
Qin Shi Handbag Factory
Sanxiang Town
Zhongshan City
Guangdong Province, China


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Summary


Wal-Mart discloses factory location to government in China

Working for Wal-Mart in China... for Nothing
Earning 36 cents a month, 8 cents a week

Wal Mart bags made under slave like conditions



Summary: Wal-Mart/Qin Shi Factory


·14-hour shifts, 7 days a week, 30 days a month.
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Average take-home pay of 3 cents an hour, $3.10 for a 98-hour workweek.
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One worker earned 36 cents for an entire month’s work.
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46 percent of the workers earned nothing at all and were actually in debt to the company.

·Housed 16 to a room and fed two dismal meals a day.
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Physical and verbal abuse.
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Held as indentured servants, identification documents confiscated, allowed to leave the factory just 1˝ hours a day.
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800 workers fired for fighting for their basic rights.
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Wal-Mart audits a total farce.
There are 1000 workers at the factory; 90% of them young men 16 to 23 years of age; almost all migrants are from rural areas.
Wal-Mart started producing Kathie Lee handbags at the Qin Shi factory in September, 1999. The workers passed us a Qin Shi/Wal-Mart invoice form dated September 2, 1999 which calls for the production of 5,400 Kathie Lee handbags (style #62657 70575) to be delivered no later than October 20, 1999.
Before that Qin Shi produced handbags for Payless carrying the Predictions label. (In 1999, Payless was the eighth largest importer by weight of goods entering the United States. Wal-Mart was, of course, the first. In the latest six-month period available—October 1999 to March 2000-a search of U.S. Customs Department shipping records made available in the PIERS database, show that 53 percent of Wal-Mart’s total imports worldwide come from China.)
Qin Shi Factory/Wal-Mart:
Indentured Servants held under prison-like conditions


The daily work shift at the Qin Shi Factory is 12 to 14 hours, seven days a week, 30 days a month. At the end of the day the workers return “home” to a cramped dorm room sharing metal bunk beds with 16 other people.At most, workers are allowed outside of the factory for just one and one half hours a day. Otherwise they are locked in.
Working up to 98 hours a week, it is not easy to find the time to go out. But the workers have another fear as well. Before entering the Qin Shi factory, management confiscates the identification documents of each worker. When someone goes outside, the company also takes away their factory I.D. tag, leaving them with no identification at all. If you are stopped by the local security police you could be detained and deported back to your rural province as an illegal migrant.
When you need to use the bathroom the company again confiscates your factory I.D. and monitors the time you spend. If you are away from your workstation for more than eight minutes you will receive a severe fine.
All new employees are illegally charged a deposit of 80 rmb ($9.64 U.S.) for a three year work contract, along with another 32 rmb ($3.86) for the first 10 days living expenses, which includes two dismal meals a day.
Further deductions from the workers’ wages are made for the temporary residency and work permits the workers need, which the factory management intentionally delays applying for for several months. This also leaves the workers trapped and afraid to leave the factory grounds, since without these legal permits they can be deported at any minute.
Qin Shi management also illegally withholds the workers first month’s wages, so it is only at the end of the second month that the workers receive, or may receive, their first pay. Because of all of the deductions and fines, many workers earn nothing at all after two months work, and instead, are actually in debt to the company.
Fines for violating any of the strict company rules are severe, a practice made even worse by the fact that armed company security guards can keep 30 percent of any fines they levy against the workers.
The workers making Wal-Mart Kathie Lee handbags report being subjected to body searches, as well as physical and verbal abuse by security guards and quality control supervisors.
The workers are charged 560 rmb ($67.47 U.S.) for dorm and living expenses, which is an enormous amount given that the highest take home wage our researchers found in the factory was just 10 cents an hour. There were others who earned just 36 cents for more than a month’s work, earning just 8/100th of a cent an hour. Many workers earned nothing at all and owed money to the company.
Seventy percent of the workers said they lacked money for even the most basic expenses, and were forced, for example, to go without even bread and tea for breakfast.
Lacking money and with constraints on their freedom of movement the Qin Shi workers making Kathie Lee handbags were being held in conditions resembling indentured servitude.
In a vicious trap, they did not even have enough money to travel to look for other work.
Wal-Mart Bags Made Under Slave-like Conditions in China

A Wal-Mart Production order was carried out of the Qin Shi Handbag Factory by the workers. The production order was signed on September 2, 1999 by Yu Lin Chen and Su Chun Wong.
Kathie Lee Handbags
#62657 70575
Made in China
All Man Made Materials
Dept. 31
KL 6021E
$8.96
The Qin Shi Handbag Factory was to produce 5,400 Kathie Lee handbags, style #62557 70575 with a delivery date of October 20, 1999. The invoice notes that Wal-Mart will accept no late deliveries.Label notes: “A portion of the proceeds from the sale of this product will be donated to various children’s charities.”
The Qin Shi factory has such a notorious reputation for cruelty and exploitation that the workers admit they are ashamed to tell anyone where they actually work – to endure such conditions must mean that you are very, very poor and down on your luck.
Wal-Mart carried out an inspection/audit at Qin Shi in early November 1999 and the factory passed with flying colors. The audit was obviously a farce – as will become clear later – and one can only conclude that Wal-Mart simply does not know and does not care what its contractors are doing.
Eventually the workers at Qin Shi could stand no more abuse, and fought back. Eight hundred workers were fired in December, but they did at least win some of their back wages.

Hours: 12 to 14 Hours a Day, 7 Days a Week, 30 Days a Month

The “regular” daily work shift is:
·7:00 a.m. to 12 noon
·1:30 to 5:30 p.m.
· 6:30 to 9:30, 10:30 or 11:30 p.m.
The workers are at the Qin Shi factory up to 115˝ hours per week, from 7:00 a.m. to 11:30 p.m., or 16 1/2 hours a day, seven days a week. This was the schedule in September, which is their busy season, when they were making the Wal-Mart handbags.
But they were paid for only 14 hours a day, and 98 hours a week.
Working seven days a week and 30 days a month, essentially the workers would receive one day off every other month.
All overtime work is mandatory. The 98-hour workweek at Qin Shi exceeds the legal limit on total overtime by 200 percent. (China’s labor law states that overtime cannot exceed 36 hours a month, or 9 hours a week over the regular 40-hour, 5-day workweek).
Despite these excessively long hours, the workers receive no overtime premium, earning always the same standard piece rate.
Wages: Average wage - 3 cents an hour! Highest wage 10 cents an hour, 46% of the workers earn nothing at all and in fact owe the company money.

All the workers at Qin Shi are paid according to a piece rate system, which varies given the type of operation required. Piece rates per unit completed ranged from 1/10th of a cent to 4/10ths of a cent, with the average being just a little over 2/10ths of a cent. So, for example, if a worker sewed 100 pieces for the Kathie Lee handbags, he or she would earn 24 cents.
In September and October, when the factory was producing Wal-Mart, the range of the workers wages varied wildly, but no one came even remotely close to making the already below-subsistence legal minimum wage of about 31 cents an hour, on which no one can possibly survive.
The highest take-home wage we found in the factory was just 10 cents an hour, or $1.20 a day -- $44.22 for 37 days of work.
The average wage in a sample of 24 workers amounted to only 3 cents an hour. However, of that sample 46 percent of the workers earned nothing at all after more than a month’s work, and in fact owed the company money due to all the deductions for company dorm and food expenses, fines and other illegal withholdings.
One worker earned 36 cents for the entire month of August, which would amount to 8 cents a week, or 8/100ths of a cent an hour.
The Kathie Lee handbag the workers make at the Qin Shi Factory retails at Wal-Mart for $8.76, which by American standards is quite cheap. However from the perspective of the average worker in the factory, earning just 3 cents an hour, the Kathie Lee handbag is very expensive indeed. At 3 cents an hour, he would have to work 299 hours to purchase such a handbag for his girlfriend.
Because of the pitiful and illegally low wages at the Qin Shi factory the workers were forced to go without even the most basic necessities. Seventy percent of the workers reported lacking the money for even a tiny breakfast. Kept in the position of indentured servants, the workers had no money or savings even to leave the factory to look for other work.



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Old 11-09-2010, 08:17 PM
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You completely lack any rational arguing ability. I provide evidence. You don't. You lose.
You are completely lacking in every area.

Rational arguing ability would be at the top of the list.

You haven't provided any evidence, but I have.

You lose.

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