Go Back   Club Conspiracy Forums > General Conspiracy Discussion > Opinions
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-11-2010, 05:40 AM
SeC SeC is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,251
Wink Is Anyone Telling Us The Truth?

Is Anyone Telling Us The Truth?

by Paul Craig Roberts*, 11 JANUARY 2010

By stitching together a string of "terrorist" events, Paul Craig Roberts zooms in on a modus operandi of false-flag and cover up operations stretching back to the Cold War period and the NATO/CIA-sponsored Operation Gladio with tentacles across Western Europe, but most famously in Italy. The bombings, which were blamed on communists to discredit them politically, were also used to create a climate of fear prompting the population turn to the state for greater security, in an all but too familiar present-day scenario.

An image of a courtroom drawing by artist Janet Hamlin, shows Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (C), the alleged mastermind of the September 11, 2001 attacks, and co-defendant Walid Bin Attash (L) attending a pre-trial session on December 8, 2008 in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
What are we to make of the failed Underwear Bomber plot, the Toothpaste, Shampoo, and Bottled Water Bomber plot, and the Shoe Bomber plot? These blundering and implausible plots to bring down an airliner seem far removed from al-Qaida’s expertise in pulling off 9/11.

If we are to believe the U.S. government, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the alleged al-Qaida “mastermind” behind 9/11, outwitted the CIA, the NSA, indeed all 16 U.S. intelligence agencies as well as those of all U.S. allies including Mossad, the National Security Council, NORAD, Air Traffic Control, Airport Security four times on one morning, and Dick Cheney, and with untrained and inexperienced pilots pulled off skilled piloting feats of crashing hijacked airliners into the World Trade Center towers, and the Pentagon, where a battery of state of the art air defenses somehow failed to function.

After such amazing success, al-Qaida would have attracted the best minds in the business, but, instead, it has been reduced to amateur stunts.

The Underwear Bomb plot is being played to the hilt on the TV media and especially on Fox “news.” After reading recently that The Washington Post allowed a lobbyist to write a news story that preached the lobbyist’s interest, I wondered if the manufacturers of full body scanners were behind the heavy coverage of the Underwear Bomber, if not behind the plot itself. In America, everything is for sale. Integrity is gone with the wind.

Recently I read a column by an author who has a “convenience theory” * Detroit Airliner Terror Incident -* A Convenience Theory***** : Information Clearing House -* ICH about the Underwear Bomber being a Nigerian allegedly trained by al-Qaida in Yemen. As the U.S. is involved in an undeclared war in Yemen, about which neither the American public nor Congress were informed or consulted, the Underwear Bomb plot provided a convenient excuse for Washington’s new war, regardless of whether it was a real attack or a put-up job.

Once you start to ask yourself about whose agenda is served by events and their news spin, other things come to mind. For example, last July there was a news report that the government in Yemen had disbanded a terrorist cell, which was operating under the supervision of Israeli intelligence services. According to the news report, Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh told Saba news agency that a terrorist cell was arrested and that the case was referred to judicial authorities “for its links with the Israeli intelligence services.” EVIDENCE MOUNTS FOR US COMPLICITY IN TERRORISM | Pakistan Daily

Could the Underwear Bomber have been one of the Israeli terrorist recruits? Certainly Israel has an interest in keeping the US fully engaged militarily against all potential foes of Israel’s territorial expansion.

The thought brought back memory of my Russian studies at Oxford University where I learned that the Tsar’s secret police set off bombs so that they could blame those whom they wanted to arrest.

I next remembered that Francesco Cossiga, the president of Italy from 1985-1992, revealed the existence of Operation Gladio,(*) a false flag operation under NATO auspices that carried out bombings across Europe in the 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s. The bombings were blamed on communists and were used to discredit communist parties in elections.

An Italian parliamentary investigation unearthed the fact that the attacks were overseen by the CIA. Gladio agent Vincenzo Vinciguerra stated in sworn testimony that the attacks targeted innocent civilians, including women and children, in order “to force the public to turn to the state to ask for greater security.”

What a coincidence. That is exactly what 9/11 succeeded in accomplishing in the U.S.

Among the well-meaning and the gullible in the West, the supposition still exists that government represents the public interest. Political parties keep this myth alive by fighting over which party best represents the public’s interest. In truth, government represents private interests, those of the office holders themselves and those of the lobby groups that finance their political campaigns. The public is in the dark as to the real agendas.

The U.S. and its puppet state allies were led to war in the Middle East and Afghanistan entirely on the basis of lies and deception. Iraqi weapons of mass destruction did not exist and were known by the U.S. and British governments not to exist. Forged documents, such as the “yellowcake documents,” were leaked to newspapers in order to create news reporting that would bring the public along with the government’s war agenda.

Now the same thing is happening in regard to the nonexistent Iranian nuclear weapons program. Forged documents leaked to The Times (London) that indicated Iran was developing a “nuclear trigger” mechanism have been revealed as forgeries.

Who benefits? Clearly, attacking Iran is on the Israeli-U.S. agenda, and someone is creating the “evidence” to support the case, just as the leaked secret “Downing Street Memo” to the British cabinet informed Prime Minister Tony Blair’s government that President Bush had already made the decision to invade Iraq and “the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy.” The secret Downing Street memo - Times Online

The willingness of people to believe their rulers and the propaganda ministries that serve the rulers is astonishing. Many Americans believe Iran has a nuclear weapons program despite the unanimous conclusion of 16 U.S. intelligence agencies to the contrary.

Vice President Dick Cheney and the neoconservatives fought hard with limited success to change the CIA’s role from intelligence agency to a political agency that manufactures facts in support of the neoconservative agenda. For the Bush Regime creating “new realities” was more important than knowing the facts.

Recently I read a proposal from a person purporting to favor an independent media that stated that we must save the print media from financial failure with government subsidies. Such a subsidy would complete the subservience of the media to government.

Even in Stalinist Russia, a totalitarian political system where everyone knew that there was no free press, a gullible or intimidated public and Communist Party enabled Joseph Stalin to put the heroes of the Bolshevik Revolution on show trial and execute them as capitalist spies.

In the U.S. we are developing our own show trials. Sheikh Mohammed’s will be a big one. As Chris Hedges VDARE.com: 01/04/10 - First Circle: Liberty Has Been Lost recently pointed out http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/...ists_20091228/ , once government uses demonized Muslims to get the new justice (sic) system going, the rest of us will be next.

(*) Operation Gladio reference articles:
The new Gladio in action? Ukrainian postmodern coup completes testing of new template, by Jonathan Mowat, Online Journal, March 19, 2005.
NATO’s Hidden Terrorism NATO's Hidden Terrorism [Voltaire] , Interview of Daniele Ganser Amazon.com: NATO's Secret Armies: Operation...Amazon.com: NATO's Secret Armies: Operation... by Silvia Cattori, Voltaire Network, 22 January 2007.
The Technique of a Coup d’État The Technique of a Coup d'État [Voltaire] , by John Laughland, Voltaire Network, 5 January 2010.

Is Anyone Telling Us The Truth? [Voltaire]

Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2010, 01:52 PM
socrateeze's Avatar
socrateeze socrateeze is offline
Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 13
Default Re: Is Anyone Telling Us The Truth?

There are a few sites which may help point out the truth, depends on what you consider the truth. Check out a couple odf these links, especially camelot,you may be in for an eye-openong experience.

Project Camelot | Welcome

David Icke Website - Home

Jeff Rense Program

Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-2010, 01:23 PM
upagainstit upagainstit is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Trenton, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 99
Default Re: Is Anyone Telling Us The Truth?

Originally Posted by SeC View Post
Is Anyone Telling Us The Truth?

by Paul Craig Roberts*, 11 JANUARY 2010


Is Anyone Telling Us The Truth? [Voltaire]
Answering your ?, not replying to your post.

Don't really think the "truth" is valid in world politics. Think the "truth" is something "other interests" snag us by. We, the uninitiated ones in cold blooded reality, are pawns used by them to further thier cause.
(affectable by the truth)

In real life things go either way. In doing so, so things will be. However that turns out. There is no "one way" and NOT the other.

Things cannot be, however they are, without things able to be so.
Things would have to be the way they are, because that's the way things are able to be.
Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2010, 03:54 PM
kerry's Avatar
kerry kerry is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 388
Default Re: Is Anyone Telling Us The Truth?

you can coint on me to tell the truth
and the truth is i dont know
Reply With Quote

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:15 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.