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Old 04-14-2010, 03:19 AM
iHIMself™ iHIMself™ is offline
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How can you be so certain BlueAngel that the CIA aren't in the pockets of the Mafia as well?
I think it's the other way around. I WISH the CIA had the interests of America at heart, I really do. But they don't. They are working hard to uphold the interests of extremely powerful groups that have ALWAYS been in power...throughout the WORLD.

I think, next person who comes in and says that the mafia is controlling the government is gonna get a swipe of my big ass mallet.

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Old 04-14-2010, 08:35 AM
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It is a tragedy, a change, an ending of ideals, a downfall, regardless of whether democracy is led by idealisms of corporatism, or whether corporatism uses the mafia to control democracy, whether democracy has replaced god with financial manipulation, or whether god has been manipulated to death.
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Old 04-14-2010, 12:26 PM
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I think it's the other way around. I WISH the CIA had the interests of America at heart, I really do. But they don't. They are working hard to uphold the interests of extremely powerful groups that have ALWAYS been in power...throughout the WORLD.

I think, next person who comes in and says that the mafia is controlling the government is gonna get a swipe of my big ass mallet.
I detect that we are having a problem here with what is known as 'different schools of thought'.

I don't deny that the CIA and the larger US government are corrupt in their own right but surely you can't leave organised crime out of the equation entirely?

For example I heard the other day that China now owns, via US Treasury Bonds, 40% of US soil outright and the Arabs 20%. Its seems that with a dwindling manufacturing industry the States is now officially a 'consumer economy' and Bush publicly invited its citizens to go shopping as much as they liked!

But who is footing the bill? Is this huge shopping bill being paid by US Treasury Bonds?

But the snag is will the US ever honour these bonds.......?

Make your guess now.........!
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Old 04-15-2010, 12:22 PM
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Try reading your own thread.

I never said that the CIA aren't in the pockets of the Mafia.

They're both in each other's pockets.

Of that I'm certain, because, you see, I was, as a child, a victim of MKULTRA/Project Monarch, a CIA funded mind control program and was forced to partake in MAFIA/CIA pornography.

In addition, I was used to sexually blackmail CERTAIN politicians who, as I speak, are in power.

Of that I'm certain, as well.

Any more questions?
I don't wish to seem that I am trying to pull apart what you have claimed, but didn't you earlier on claim that you weren't actually a victim of MK Ultra in a previous discussion when I had used this very name?

I seem to recall you did.

Also as a victim of a severe trauma how can you be certain that it was actually a CIA funded mind control program that you were a victim of?

Further I would like to question what the motives of these people (the CIA) actually are if they are using child porngraphy to compromise politicians?

Surely this represents a criminal conspiracy against the government rather than a form of state sponsored coercion?
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Old 04-16-2010, 01:33 PM
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I have never claimed that I WASN'T a victim of MKULTRA/Project Monarch.

My proclamation to this end is posted all over this forum.

Please quote wherein I stated on this forum that I wasn't a victim of MKULTRA/Project Monarch or refrain from saying that I said it.

The CIA funded the mind control programs.

That's how I'm certain that I was a victim of a CIA mind control program.

Compromising politicians is a CONTROL mechanism.

This is how they have many of them in their pockets.

Yes.

This represents a criminal conspiracy by the "rogue" CIA, but not just against the government.

Against those of us who were forced to partake in child pornography and used to "sexually" blackmail politicians.

Experimenting on a human is a criminal act, as well.

These are a few of the immoral acts perpetrated upon those of us who were incarcerated in the CIA funded mind control programs.

As I've repeated ad nauseam all over this forum, the CIA is an ORGANIZED criminal entity.
I can't recall exactly where this MKULTRA denial occurred, I wish this site had some sort of Search facility on it.

Your answer as to how you were certain the CIA was behind your mind control was as follows:

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The CIA funded the mind control programs.

That's how I'm certain that I was a victim of a CIA mind control program.
But that is not a sound explanation. The logic does not follow.

If "the CIA funded mind control programs" it does not logically follow therefore that all efforts at mind control are therefore either sponsored or organised by the CIA.

Organised crime and the Mafia for example can utilise mind control. It is the equivalent of slave making. And many mind control survivors have compared what they went through to being used like a slave.

In fact mind control is so simple anyone could do it. You just have to break their will. You can compare it to breaking in a wild horse or training a disobedient dog.

As far as I am concerned you could easily have been a victim of organised crime.

Along the way you could easily have come across the odd corrupt government official, who no doubt exist, and in the eyes of an abused child this must have said so much to you. Even the police can't be trusted, even social services, even lawyers etc, etc.

But of course this is a mistaken perception. It is not all the police who are involved (even if the chief himself is corrupt), or all the other representatives of local and the larger government.
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Old 04-18-2010, 02:07 AM
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lol @ NASA. I can just imagine....

We have landed on the moon.....we have landed on the moon.....we have landed on the moon. lol

Anyway, I've read a couple of good books regarding mind control programs of the CIA. Quite intriguing. It was also a highly prioritised operation during vietnam on our troops, as well as more developed techniques during the war in Iraq (snr) What is more intriguing, is the use of such techniques on the general population through the media.

That, with 'dumbing' biochemicals in our food and water supplies, and we have the enslavement of the civilised world.

No, sorry, my bad, it's actually orchestrated by the mafia for their own greedy financial gains.

THWAK!! I warned you galexander...

lol
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Old 04-18-2010, 04:29 AM
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I'm no longer going to engage in your circular discussions, Gale.

I NEVER said I WAS NOT a victim of MKULTRA/Project Monarch.

Period.

End of that discussion unless you can prove otherwise.

The CIA funds and funded mind control programs.

They have all the resources at their disposal.

The money, the doctors, the hospitals, the military installations, the prisons, the institutions, the technology, the equipment, etc.

The Mafia does not.

Sure, the Mafia can USE; does use and has used "mind control" slaves.

Hence, the reason I said that I was used in CIA/Mafia pornography.

However, as I've said, and you should do some research, the CIA funded and sponsored the mind control programs and not the Mafia.

Under the direction of Allen Dulles, the CIA director, they ushered many "war criminals," (NAZI scientists/doctors) into our country after World War II and gave them safe-haven here for that purpose, but sold them to the public as rocket scientists who would be working for NASA.

Many victims of mind control programs were experimented on at NASA.

Do some research.
I don't deny that the CIA experimented with mind control.

But that does not mean to say that all mind control and slavery must originate with the CIA.

However to cause someone to become mind controlled I would deny that you need "the money, the doctors, the hospitals, the military installations, the prisons, the institutions, the technology, the equipment, etc." Absolutely any crook can make slaves. Slavery has been around for thousands of years.

What I would suggest is that when you were exploited as a child you were most likely told that because the crooks had some government officials on their side they actually told you that they WERE the government. And they led you to believe this was why you couldn't go to the authorities for help because they WERE the authorities.

Its a standard practice among paedophile networks to instil fear into the minds of the children in question.

Further paedophile networks are extremely complex organisations. And they need to be to avoid the full force of the law. This sophistication of organisation again may make them look like a quasi-government.

For example many allegations have been made about the False Memory Syndrome Foundation who claim that most of the memories of victim's of child abuse are false and based upon auto suggestion etc.

However the organisation is made up almost entirely of parents who THEMSELVES have been accused of child abuse. But is this safe especially when considering the influence the organisation has had on government policy on the issue?

Indeed one of the founding members of the FMSF was sacked when it was revealed that in an interview in a Dutch paedophile magazine he claimed that it was perfectly natural for adults to sleep with children and that it was Gods will etc., etc.

Somewhat of an embarrassment but it hardly dented the reputation of the FMSF.

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Old 04-18-2010, 05:55 AM
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If what I said about the Taliban outlawing drugs was a 'hunk of crap' kerry then how do you explain the following link:

Taliban's Ban On Poppy A Success, U.S. Aides Say - NYTimes.com

You are the one kerry posting 'diversionary topics for the ignorant to see'.

And your spelling is appalling.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/19/wo...n.html?_r=2&hp
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Old 04-18-2010, 09:28 AM
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A shrewd observation superted.

But if the Taliban are now trading in opium, what forced them into it in the first place?

The American/Allied invasion.

The simple truth is that if the invasion had never occurred then there would be no opium cultivation in Afghanistan today.

But nice try anyway.
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Old 04-18-2010, 07:44 PM
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the truth is afgans only way to get money and live was with opium. which the mafia flew in there privet jets to buy. which was money suport for the talaban.
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