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Old 04-19-2010, 11:51 AM
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the truth is afgans only way to get money and live was with opium. which the mafia flew in there privet jets to buy. which was money suport for the talaban.
So how do you explain the Taliban's ban on opium production in 2000-2001?

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Old 04-19-2010, 12:00 PM
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So how do you explain the Taliban's ban on opium production in 2000-2001?
Maybe it had been sprayed with chemicals?

Actions are different than words.
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Old 04-20-2010, 12:04 PM
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Maybe it had been sprayed with chemicals?

Actions are different than words.
But in that case of the Taliban's ban it was both words AND action.
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Old 04-20-2010, 12:09 PM
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I'm talking about CIA mind control programs and the resources they have available to fund these programs and not about other organizations that can deploy mind control upon their followers.

Please do not suggest that you know anything about my incarceration in MKULTRA/Project Monarch unless you were there.

I've already written about the FMSF so you haven't told me anything that I don't already know.

Do a search and you'll find my thread.

Yes, paedophile networks are extremely complex organizations.

Such as the CIA and Mafia paedophile networks.

Instilling fear in their mind control "slaves" is standard practice so they won't talk about it.

Again, you haven't told me anything that I don't already know and/or have written about on this forum.
I know this might sound like an extremely superficial suggestion but could it be possible that you were actually mind controlled just to think that the CIA were responsible when it had actually been someone else?

Perhaps they had been devious enough to try and hide their tracks and to ensure that what you were saying didn't make any sense when you went for help?
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Old 04-21-2010, 12:42 PM
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No.

That isn't possible.

It was the CIA and President Bill Clinton admitted that the government experimented on people; the CIA released documents under the FOIA pertaining to their programs and a former CIA director, COLBY, who was found dead under strange circumstances, admitted to Project Monarch and Ted Kennedy conducted congressional hearings regarding this matter.

Why would it matter if I went to anyone for help and implicated the CIA and they didn't think what I said made any sense?

Are you saying it would make more sense to someone if I implicated another entity?

I couldn't care any less if I went to someone for help and they didn't think that what I said made any sense.

I know the truth and they don't.

Just curious.

What are your reasons for insisting that the CIA was not involved in mind control programs when all evidence proves that they were?
But BlueAngel, I am not denying the existence of MKULTRA or that the CIA conducted experiments into mind control.

What I am disputing is how far these CIA experiments went. Did it really include making kiddy porn, creating robotic call girls and running drugs mules? The official reason why the CIA carried out such research was to better understand and hence counter any such possible activity perpetrated by the Soviets.

Just because MKULTRA has been publicly admitted to by the US government doesn't necessarily mean that you, BlueAngel, must have been a victim of it.

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Old 04-23-2010, 03:03 AM
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The implications of the CIA's involvement is the true indicator in such events. And what are these implications? Non existent.
There is as much evidence, if not more, of their experimental rampage on THOUSANDS like Blue Angel, as there is on torture and maiming of detainees by US government forces throughout the world. There is substantial evidence of their involvement in the JFK assassination, the Bobby Kennedy Assassination, the Alexander Onassis death, the deaths of Martin Luther King Jnr, Malcolm X, JFK Jnr, Muhatma Ghandi, his son Monalil Ghandi, bombings in Israel, Iraq, Iran, Oklahoma City, 911, Spain, London, hell even Tupac and Biggy. And they can still easily do it to this day, with Lech Kaczynski, the polish president, who tried to put a clamp on financial giants running amok in his country. The evidence is everywhere, and justice nowhere.
If you knew someone who committed murder, and you kept quiet? That is by law, committing as an accomplice. Almost punishable as committing the act itself.
The government IS an accomplice to these murders, and continues to comply. But.......what? They do so, they say, for the betterment of our world, our social structure, and personal lives. For them, that is all the justice we need.

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Old 04-24-2010, 08:40 AM
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The implications of the CIA's involvement is the true indicator in such events. And what are these implications? Non existent.
There is as much evidence, if not more, of their experimental rampage on THOUSANDS like Blue Angel, as there is on torture and maiming of detainees by US government forces throughout the world. There is substantial evidence of their involvement in the JFK assassination, the Bobby Kennedy Assassination, the Alexander Onassis death, the deaths of Martin Luther King Jnr, Malcolm X, JFK Jnr, Muhatma Ghandi, his son Monalil Ghandi, bombings in Israel, Iraq, Iran, Oklahoma City, 911, Spain, London, hell even Tupac and Biggy. And they can still easily do it to this day, with Lech Kaczynski, the polish president, who tried to put a clamp on financial giants running amok in his country. The evidence is everywhere, and justice nowhere.
If you knew someone who committed murder, and you kept quiet? That is by law, committing as an accomplice. Almost punishable as committing the act itself.
The government IS an accomplice to these murders, and continues to comply. But.......what? They do so, they say, for the betterment of our world, our social structure, and personal lives. For them, that is all the justice we need.
I personally feel that we are getting a little carried away in suggesting that the CIA were solely responsible for everything bad that has ever happened in the world.

Its over simplistic, a little naive and bordering on the paranoid.

I don't deny that the CIA may have done a few bizarre and twisted things in their time but it doesn't logically follow that they must be ultimately responsible for absolutely everything!

You may even be playing into these people's hands and helping to create a smokescreen for governmental conspirators to hide behind.

And I am certain that government agents fictitiously create conspiracy theories in order to rubbish all the accusations that may come there way. In fact organised crime may even be doing the same thing these days.
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Old 04-24-2010, 08:45 AM
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Amen to that. As they say, conspiracy theorys give people simple solutions to complex problems, but they are the wrong answers usually
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Old 04-24-2010, 07:00 PM
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when terrorist attacked new york on 9/11
they woke up a sleeping giant that cant go back to sleep.
10 years later key figures are still being hunted by the world.
i doubt very much a attack such as 9/11 will ever happen again.
and i realy doubt north korea and iran will have the balls
to shoot a nuke at us. as for the mafia.. they are small
potatos. they dont know it yet but somthing is on the
drawing board to deal with them later

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Old 04-24-2010, 09:22 PM
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when terrorist attacked new york on 9/11
they woke up a sleeping giant that cant go back to sleep.
which terrorists? the 14 that didn't even board the planes? And this giant is? Because if its the US govt, then you are delusional indeed, as the US is not run by the US, but a conglomerate of powerful FOREIGN banking families, that dates back almost 1000 years. That's a hell of a long time to stay awake.

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10 years later key figures are still being hunted by the world.
Which key figures are they?? Bin Laden? lmao. since when was he EVER hunted?
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i doubt very much a attack such as 9/11 will ever happen again.
So Spain, London, Bali, and countless bombings that continue don't count. Only the US counts, sorry, I forget how conceited we are sometimes.

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and i realy doubt north korea and iran will have the balls
to shoot a nuke at us.
Again, on the brink of delusional. They are well aware of any ramifications to their actions. But I believe they are utilising nuclear energy for the benefits of power, and....self defence against rogue regimes, like the ones we have faced for the past 200 years. It's governments that try to do things for the benefits of their general population that seem to be under scrutiny and threat. You seem to eat up everything the media throws at you. Bon apetit'

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as for the mafia.. they are small
potatos. they dont know it yet but somthing is on the
drawing board to deal with them later
Wow, small potatoes. Best thing you've said so far. But you forget, that many HEADS of the mafia, have become, through generations of at least 100 years, a part of the aristocracy, so those who ARE dealt with, are the ones who never had any influence whatsoever. A FRONT, to keep people like you happy, that something is being done.

Again, bon apetit'

Getting rid of the mafia is extremely simple. Legalise drugs. Full stop. But the tyrants of this world are the ones who benefit the most out of illegal drug trades, so that will never happen.
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