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Old 04-20-2010, 07:09 PM
BlueAngel BlueAngel is offline
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Mind Control

Do some research, Gale, as I'm growing weary of doing it for you and, in the interim, cease and desist from playing dumb.

The CIA was involved in the creation of mind control programs.

Period.

End of story.

I have spoken as to my incarceration in same and I would know because I am a victim/survivor and you are not.

For that, you should be thankful.


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Old 04-20-2010, 11:03 PM
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So, Gale, please explain to the forum why it is that you find it necessary to exempt the CIA from any involvement in mind control programs when all evidence, heretofore, points to this "corrupt" organization?
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Old 04-21-2010, 12:42 PM
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No.

That isn't possible.

It was the CIA and President Bill Clinton admitted that the government experimented on people; the CIA released documents under the FOIA pertaining to their programs and a former CIA director, COLBY, who was found dead under strange circumstances, admitted to Project Monarch and Ted Kennedy conducted congressional hearings regarding this matter.

Why would it matter if I went to anyone for help and implicated the CIA and they didn't think what I said made any sense?

Are you saying it would make more sense to someone if I implicated another entity?

I couldn't care any less if I went to someone for help and they didn't think that what I said made any sense.

I know the truth and they don't.

Just curious.

What are your reasons for insisting that the CIA was not involved in mind control programs when all evidence proves that they were?
But BlueAngel, I am not denying the existence of MKULTRA or that the CIA conducted experiments into mind control.

What I am disputing is how far these CIA experiments went. Did it really include making kiddy porn, creating robotic call girls and running drugs mules? The official reason why the CIA carried out such research was to better understand and hence counter any such possible activity perpetrated by the Soviets.

Just because MKULTRA has been publicly admitted to by the US government doesn't necessarily mean that you, BlueAngel, must have been a victim of it.

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Old 04-22-2010, 08:04 PM
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But BlueAngel, I am not denying the existence of MKULTRA or that the CIA conducted experiments into mind control.

What I am disputing is how far these CIA experiments went. Did it really include making kiddy porn, creating robotic call girls and running drugs mules? The official reason why the CIA carried out such research was to better understand and hence counter any such possible activity perpetrated by the Soviets.

Just because MKULTRA has been publicly admitted to by the US government doesn't necessarily mean that you, BlueAngel, must have been a victim of it.
You are denying all of it.

So stop denying that you are denying it.

Yes.

CIA mind control programs involved CIA/Mafia kiddie porn and, since I was used in CIA/Mafia kiddie porn, I would be the one who could speak to this subject and not you.

You aren't the ONE who is knowledgeable about mind control programs.

Ah, that would be me since I was a victim and am a survivor.

But, thanks, anyway for you input.

If you believe that the reason why the CIA carried out such research was to better understand and, hence, counter any such possible activity perpetrated by the Soviets, I truly think you must be wearing a "dunce" cap and have bought into that which they told you and, perhaps, you are, as we speak, mind controlled.

Oh, yeah.

The Soviets.

The communists.

They were going to invade America, just as we were told when we heard the sirens and hid under our desks at school and, because of this, the CIA needed to engage in mind control research and kiddie porn to better understand and counter their activity here when they took over America.

So, let's use unsuspecting humans as guniea pigs all in the name of protecting America from communist take over.

We'll experiment on prisoners, mental patients, on children in orphanages; you know, we'll prey on the less fortunate, with or without their informed consent so we can counter the soviets and their mind control attack when they take over America.

What are you talking about?

MIND CONTROL tactics were developed by Nazi scientists.

GERMANS!

Not Soviets.

Some of the same Nazi scientists who perpetrated grotesque experimentation on Holocaust prisoners during WWII were ushered into AMERICA and given safe haven here by Allen Dulles and the CIA; touted as rocket scientists, but for the purposes of continuing their experimentation and aiding and abetting the CIA in developing mind control slaves and in the research of experimentation of various technologies.

Secret, silent and invisible weapons.

I never said that because MKULTRA has been publicly admitted to by the US government this means that I, BlueAngel, was victim of this mind control program.

I have stated that I was a victim of MKULTRA/Project Monarch irregardless of whether or not the CIA/government admitted to it.

I don't need the CIA or government to admit to anything to verify that I was a victim of CIA/government abuse and used in CIA/Mafia pornography.

I know who I am Gale and you don't.

I know who victimized me and you don't.

But, thanks again for you input.

We shall take it into consideration, but most likely discard it as rubbish.

Any luck in finding the comment on the forum by me, wherein you say that I state I wasn't a victim of MKULTRA/Project Monarch?

Didn't think so.

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Old 04-23-2010, 03:03 AM
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The implications of the CIA's involvement is the true indicator in such events. And what are these implications? Non existent.
There is as much evidence, if not more, of their experimental rampage on THOUSANDS like Blue Angel, as there is on torture and maiming of detainees by US government forces throughout the world. There is substantial evidence of their involvement in the JFK assassination, the Bobby Kennedy Assassination, the Alexander Onassis death, the deaths of Martin Luther King Jnr, Malcolm X, JFK Jnr, Muhatma Ghandi, his son Monalil Ghandi, bombings in Israel, Iraq, Iran, Oklahoma City, 911, Spain, London, hell even Tupac and Biggy. And they can still easily do it to this day, with Lech Kaczynski, the polish president, who tried to put a clamp on financial giants running amok in his country. The evidence is everywhere, and justice nowhere.
If you knew someone who committed murder, and you kept quiet? That is by law, committing as an accomplice. Almost punishable as committing the act itself.
The government IS an accomplice to these murders, and continues to comply. But.......what? They do so, they say, for the betterment of our world, our social structure, and personal lives. For them, that is all the justice we need.

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Old 04-24-2010, 08:40 AM
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The implications of the CIA's involvement is the true indicator in such events. And what are these implications? Non existent.
There is as much evidence, if not more, of their experimental rampage on THOUSANDS like Blue Angel, as there is on torture and maiming of detainees by US government forces throughout the world. There is substantial evidence of their involvement in the JFK assassination, the Bobby Kennedy Assassination, the Alexander Onassis death, the deaths of Martin Luther King Jnr, Malcolm X, JFK Jnr, Muhatma Ghandi, his son Monalil Ghandi, bombings in Israel, Iraq, Iran, Oklahoma City, 911, Spain, London, hell even Tupac and Biggy. And they can still easily do it to this day, with Lech Kaczynski, the polish president, who tried to put a clamp on financial giants running amok in his country. The evidence is everywhere, and justice nowhere.
If you knew someone who committed murder, and you kept quiet? That is by law, committing as an accomplice. Almost punishable as committing the act itself.
The government IS an accomplice to these murders, and continues to comply. But.......what? They do so, they say, for the betterment of our world, our social structure, and personal lives. For them, that is all the justice we need.
I personally feel that we are getting a little carried away in suggesting that the CIA were solely responsible for everything bad that has ever happened in the world.

Its over simplistic, a little naive and bordering on the paranoid.

I don't deny that the CIA may have done a few bizarre and twisted things in their time but it doesn't logically follow that they must be ultimately responsible for absolutely everything!

You may even be playing into these people's hands and helping to create a smokescreen for governmental conspirators to hide behind.

And I am certain that government agents fictitiously create conspiracy theories in order to rubbish all the accusations that may come there way. In fact organised crime may even be doing the same thing these days.
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Old 04-24-2010, 08:45 AM
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Amen to that. As they say, conspiracy theorys give people simple solutions to complex problems, but they are the wrong answers usually
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Old 04-24-2010, 10:53 AM
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As far as I know, Gale, I, nor any other member of this forum has EVER suggested that the CIA is solely responsible for any and every bad thing that has happened in the world.

From where you have you ascertained this information?

It must be from the same place wherein you said that I had previously stated I WASN'T a victim of MKULTRA/Project Monarch.

FYI, I am debating your theory, GALE, that the Mafia runs the US and debating your theory, as well, that some entity other than the CIA was responsible for the creation of mind control programs; using children in kiddie porn, experimentation on persons in institutions, orphanages, prisons, etc.

I have NEVER said that, IMO, the CIA is solely responsible for every bad thing that has ever happened.

You might want to look around the forum at other threads, Gale, and enlighten yourself as to what other organizations members of this forum have implicated as "corrupt" entities.

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Old 04-24-2010, 10:57 AM
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Really, Gale, you are certain that government agents ficticiously create conspiracy theories in order to rubbish all the accusations that may come their way?

Would this be similar to suggesting that the US is run by the Mafia?
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Old 04-24-2010, 07:00 PM
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when terrorist attacked new york on 9/11
they woke up a sleeping giant that cant go back to sleep.
10 years later key figures are still being hunted by the world.
i doubt very much a attack such as 9/11 will ever happen again.
and i realy doubt north korea and iran will have the balls
to shoot a nuke at us. as for the mafia.. they are small
potatos. they dont know it yet but somthing is on the
drawing board to deal with them later

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