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Old 10-01-2010, 09:14 PM
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Blue angel, are you deliberatley obtuse with me so I will lose my top so you can ban me?

I just made half a dozen points here>>

You don't need to set up a cool mafia to make the idea of power and money and danger cool too. You don't need Rambo to make the idea of a gun cool. These things just are because they answer a primative need. So where did that primative need stem from?

God? chance?

You can always take any problem with the world back to one of these. I blame both.

I blame the hippies from the sixties. where else did you find drugs and promiscuous sex come into such fashion? And crime too. They sponsored chaos, attacking "the man" lawlessness. They wanted to replace the idea of law with love, not realising that very few people love at all.

Then you have the shop stewards, stoking up worker revolts, making a lot of people bitter about their place in society. They promised the working man so much that they couldn't deliver that many of those workers dropped out and became criminals.

and last of all we have the conspiracy theorists, who prey on the weak minded, the bitter , the paranoid, the mentally ill. Listen to an Alex Jones program, and see what I mean. His callers are morons 75% of the time. They've been pushed into Jew hating, police bashing, mistrust of anyone.

Counter culture.

Can you see no points to debate? Then you must agree what I've said already.

Check mate.
I have previously responded to the points that you think you have made and my purpose on this forum is not to be obtuse with anyone so that they lose their top and I can ban them.

I am never obtuse.

I am clear and concise and I was clear and concise when I previously responded to the points you think you have made as highlighted in RED above and my response indicated that I don't agree with you.

I have pointed out to YOU that in many instances you are being obtuse and, if that causes you to lose your top, you would be responsible for same and not me.

Check mate.


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Old 10-01-2010, 09:21 PM
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Sorry to interrupt the titter-tatter but I have another example demonstrating how corruption appears to be endemic in the system.

It's been the media over the passed few years how vehicle accidents are deliberately being staged by crime gangs for the insurance payouts.

However it seems the dishonest drivers actually causing the accidents are the lowest paid among the ranks of the organisations responsible. Highest paid of the lot and taking the richest rewards by far are the legal firms responsible for the payouts and who finance the whole operations from square one.

If you can't trust the lawyers who can you trust?

However the legal profession always looked slightly dishonest, I mean look at some of the fees they charge.
You must be interrupting yourself, as it appears you are the member who is engaging in titter tatter with albie.
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Old 10-01-2010, 09:31 PM
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No he's an evidence exaggerater, and he now admits that.
Alex Jones is a person who instills fear, paranoia and anger in his followers by exaggerating that which he writes and/or speaks about whether it includes some facts or not.

Please provide details as to Alex Jones' himself admitting that he is an evidence exaggerator.

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Old 10-02-2010, 03:08 AM
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Alex Jones is a person who instills fear, paranoia and anger in his followers by exaggerating that which he writes and/or speaks about whether it includes some facts or not.

Please provide details as to Alex Jones' himself admitting that he is an evidence exaggerator.
To be absolutely fair Alex Jones is a brilliant spokes person for the conspiracy movement even though he may not be a conspiracy theorist himself, basically because he is so loud and outgoing.

Presenting his own radio show he has a quite a following.

However having said that I don't necessarily agree with everything he says but then again you don't have to.
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Old 10-03-2010, 04:23 PM
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To be absolutely fair Alex Jones is a brilliant spokes person for the conspiracy movement even though he may not be a conspiracy theorist himself, basically because he is so loud and outgoing.

Presenting his own radio show he has a quite a following.

However having said that I don't necessarily agree with everything he says but then again you don't have to.
It is my opinion that Alex Jones' is not a brilliant spokesperson for the conspiracy movement or otherwise.

He has gathered a following through the instillation of fear.

Much the same as the government operates.
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Old 10-03-2010, 09:03 PM
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If Alex Jones' ever begins to rail against the distribution of child pornography, I then might endorse him.

Otherwise, as far as I'm concerned, he's a fraud.
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Old 10-04-2010, 12:02 PM
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It is my opinion that Alex Jones' is not a brilliant spokesperson for the conspiracy movement or otherwise.

He has gathered a following through the instillation of fear.

Much the same as the government operates.
But isn't what you yourself are saying BlueAngel very similar to the line taken by Alex Jones?

You both claim that everything can be explained by a government/CIA orchestrated conspiracy.
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Old 10-05-2010, 06:29 PM
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But isn't what you yourself are saying BlueAngel very similar to the line taken by Alex Jones?

You both claim that everything can be explained by a government/CIA orchestrated conspiracy.
No.

What I'm saying is not very similar to the line taken by Alex Jones and, even if it were, are you suggesting that this dictates that rather than criticize, I should align myself with him?

I have never claimed that everything can be explained by a government/CIA orchestrated conspiracy.

Many people, conspiracy theorist's or not, believe that CERTAIN events in history which appear to have been orchestrated to benefit the "wealthy elitists" who control our WORLD and not society, are the result of a "shadow government" and a "rogue" CIA and, I am certain that in doing so, this doesn't imply that they are in agreement with everything that Alex Jones' believes.

My opinions are my own.

They have nothing to do with Alex Jones whether, in your eyes, they are similar or not.

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Old 10-05-2010, 07:10 PM
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TODAY ON THE ALEX JONES SHOW
  • David Icke
Alex welcomes back former Minnesota governor and television show host Jesse Ventura. A new season of Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura is coming out and he'll be discussing some of the topics covered with Alex. Alex also welcomes back to the show English writer, public speaker, and former media personality David Icke. Icke worked as a reporter with the weekly Leicester Advertiser, was a well-known BBC television sports presenter and spokesman for the Green Party. He has produced numerous DVDs and has authored several books, including The Biggest Secret: The Book That Will Change the World, Alice in Wonderland and the World Trade Center Disaster, and Infinite Love Is the Only Truth: Everything Else Is Illusion. Alex also covers the latest news, and takes your calls.
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Old 10-05-2010, 07:10 PM
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In early 2000, Jones was one of seven Republican Party (United States) candidates for Texas House of Representatives in Texas House District 48, an open seat swing district based in Austin, Texas.

Jones stated that he was running, "to be a watchdog on the inside."

He aborted his campaign and withdrew before the March primary when polls indicated he had little chance of winning.

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