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Hollywood 9/11: 9/11 Synchronicities In Films

- by John Valentini C, April 25th 2005

"People break down into two groups when they experience something
Group number one sees it as more than luck, more than coincidence. They
it as a sign-evidence that there is someone up there watching out for
Group number two sees it as just pure luck, a happy turn of chance. I'm
the people in group number two are looking at those 14 lights in a very
suspicious way. For them, the situation isn't 50-50. Could be bad,
could be
good. But deep down, they feel that whatever happens, they're on their
And that fills them with fear. Yeah, there are those people. But
there's a
whole lot of people in the group number one. When they see those 14
they're looking at a miracle. And deep down, they feel that whatever's
to happen, there'll be someone there to help them. And that fills them
hope. See, what you have to ask yourself is, what kind of person are
Are you the kind who sees signs, sees miracles? Or do you believe that
people just get lucky? Or look at the question this way-is it possible
there are no coincidences?"

- Signs
776-1297547?%5Fencoding=UTF8&camp=1789&link%5Fcode=xm2 > (2002) -

If I were to ask anybody on the street if they could have foreseen the
terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 the prevailing response would
be on
the whole in the negative. Even if I were to ask leaders within the
government, judiciary, military, commerce or religion the reaction
would be
very similar. Indeed, the Bush administration has publicly maintained
no one in government had envisioned a suicide hijacking before it
(CBS News 17 May 2002). Former US National Security Adviser and current
Secretary of State, Condoleeza Rice, asserted in the months following
terrorist attacks: 'I don't think anybody could have predicted
would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a
(CBS News 17 May 2002). Even the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff,
Force General Richard Myers confessed: 'You hate to admit it, but we
thought about this' (Rhem 23 October 2001).

Despite repeated denials by Bush administration officials that 'no one
government had imagined such an attack' (CBS News 17 May 2002), if I
were to
pose the same question to that privileged and influential few in
that make a living by imagining the unimaginable the answers might be
more revealing in light of what they have projected on a subliminal
level in
some of their films prior to 9/11.

Prescient 9/11 Films

Film: Gremlins
776-1297547?%5Fencoding=UTF8&camp=1789&link%5Fcode=xm2 > (1984)
Time: 01:08:58
Scene: Zach Galligan gets into his Volkswagen Beetle with Gizmo and
successfully starts the engine. He turns the radio on and the red
is sitting between 9 and 11.

Film: Independence
776-1297547?%5Fencoding=UTF8&camp=1789&link%5Fcode=xm2 > Day (1996)
Time: 00:45:33 (Special Edition) 00:41:22 (Theatrical Version)
Scene: As Air Force 1 evacuates the President and his family, Jeff
sets a laptop up to watch the countdown. When the camera cuts to a
one of the ticks is 9:11:01.

Film: The
776-1297547?%5Fencoding=UTF8&camp=1789&link%5Fcode=xm2 > Peacemaker
Time: 01:28:42
Scene: George Clooney and Nicole Kidman are in pursuit of a Yugoslavian
terrorist who disembarks at New York's JFK Airport. Stepping off the
escalator Clooney anxiously looks around and behind him are desks 9 and

Film: Enemy
776-1297547?%5Fencoding=UTF8&camp=1789&link%5Fcode=xm2 > of the State
Time: 01:28:06
Scene: Gene Hackman takes Will Smith to his compound from where they
Jon Voight's personal details on the computer. Gene Hackman states,
'Reynolds, Thomas Brian. Born 9-11-40'.

Film: Rugrats
776-1297547?%5Fencoding=UTF8&camp=1789&link%5Fcode=xm2 > in Paris (2000)
Time: 00:02:22
Scene: Struggling to dance at a wedding ceremony Chuckie's shoelaces
tangled. He counts along with the beat, 'Nine, eleven, twenty.'

Film: Traffic
776-1297547?%5Fencoding=UTF8&camp=1789&link%5Fcode=xm2 > (2000)
Time: 00:02:17
Scene: In the opening sequence a drug van is pulled over and seized.
the boxes of drugs are removed 911 is written on each of them.

Film: The
776-1297547?%5Fencoding=UTF8&camp=1789&link%5Fcode=xm2 > Patriot (2000)
Time: (1) 00:03:25 (2) 00:03:59-0:4:33
Scene: (1) Mel Gibson weighs a chair he has made. He says 'Nine pounds,
eleven ounces. That's perfect. Perfect'. (2) Taking it down he sits on
but it collapses under his weight. Upset he throws it against a wall
other chairs he has made lie in pieces.

Synchronicity or Conspiracy

Coincidence or design? You decide, but there is a growing faction of
who feel that something more sinister is at work. The prime suspects
tend to
be secretive societies that have a history of machinations against the
people of the United States and Britain (Phelps, 2001). These include
religious or quasi-religious organizations and government bureaucracies
Freemasonry <http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Freemasonry.htm>
(Masons), the Illuminati
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Illuminati.htm> , Opus Dei, Skull
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Skull_Bones.htm> & Bones, Society
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/black_pope_1.htm> Jesus
(Jesuits), the
Central Intelligence
Agency (CIA), the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the
Security <http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Spooks.htm> Agency
besides a host of others whose numerous activities are by their very
underhand and secret-all against the best interests of the freedom
nations of the West.

It is a dangerous influence and power these nefarious groups wield
their esoteric silence and secrecy in their covert attempts to
certain social and political orders while furthering their own hidden
agenda. Such a blatant and treacherous doctrine of suppression was
by no less a statesman than US President John F Kennedy in a speech
the American Newspaper Publishers Association, whose own slaying was
littered with intrigue and covered up at the highest levels of

"The very word 'secrecy' is repugnant in a free and open society; and
we are
as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to
secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the
of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far
the dangers which are cited to justify it. "

- Kennedy, 27 April 1961

Besides political power these societies hold 'enormous influence in the
world media', and this is nowhere felt more than in the media capital
of the
world-Hollywood (Ankerberg & Weldon 1990)!

In an audio interview with Vyzygoth's From the Grassy Knoll
<http://www.vyzygoth.com/> program Dr Rebecca Carley, an outspoken
of the dangers and myths of vaccination, highlighted the subliminal
influence of one perfidious group in Hollywood:

"It's time for us to turn the light on these Freemasons.because in
sick code of honour, as it turns out, as long as they tell us what
doing they can get away with it.They're telling us what they're doing
on the
sci-fi channel primarily.and you know movies that are done, like
Theory, and a lot of Mel Gibson movies as it turns out, that's where
find out the truth. And so people have to realize that's how they get
with things."

- Vyzygoth, 24 October 2003, 00:45:52-00:46:39

That certain members of such groups have infiltrated or collude with
Hollywood's elite writers, directors, actors or production designers to
communicate their goals to each other is undisputed given that
Hollywood has
amended scripts, altered storylines and revised history at the behest
government, military and intelligence officials (Campbell 29 August
Even now, controversy surrounds the pilot episode of Chris Carter's The
X-Files spin-off The Lone Gunmen wherein a secret faction of the US
government, posing as foreign terrorists, hijacks a commercial airliner
remote control and targets the World Trade Centre (Killtown 30 January
2005). Written by Vince Gilligan, John Shiban and Frank Spotnitz would
it be
farfetched to suppose that one or more contributors to the show had

In a recent series of interviews with Alex Jones Prison
<http://www.prisonplanet.com/> Planet Dean Haglund, who played the role
Richard 'Ringo' Langly in The X-Files and The Lone Gunmen, revealed
that the
writers of these shows had links to the FBI and NASA, who supplied
for their show (Jones 17 December 2004 00:15:39-00:15:56). He also
that for the past twenty years the CIA has hired informants to attend
Hollywood functions for conveying trends and concerns and related his
encounter with one such informant who works as a psychic in Hollywood:

"She was at a Hollywood party where Chris Carter was standing in the
in a tuxedo looking very out of place. And she went up to him and said,
'Whatever you're working on right now is going to make you millions of
dollars'. And it was just before he started The X-Files. So she was a
psychic who predicted the success of The X-Files not knowing what the
project was or who he was. And then when I asked her, 'What were you
at the Hollywood party?' she said that she was working for the CIA and
she would get e-mails telling her to go to this party and that party.
there'd be swanky affairs in the Hollywood hills and her name would
be on the guest list (she never knew how that happened). And then she
just go hang out at the party, and then at the end of the night go back
e-mail what she talked about. And she didn't really know where the
went or who this person was, but then she would get a cheque. And it
out that was the CIA and they were just, you know, keeping tabs on what
being talked about at Hollywood parties with the producers and the
because film is one of the, you know, major foreign policy tools that
out there.."

- Jones, 17 December 2004, 00:04:29-00:05:49; cf. Jones, 12 January

This has led many to conjecture as The Lone Gunmen co-writer and The
producer Frank Spotnitz exclaimed: 'What's disturbing about it to me
is, you
think as a fiction writer that if you can imagine this scenario, then
people in power in the government who are there to imagine disaster
scenarios can imagine it, too.' (TV Guide 21 June 2001). In fact,
9/11 the US government 'cobbled together a group of film and television
writers and asked them to create fantastic terrorism scenarios, so that
thought could be given to (and preparations made for?) possible
responses to
unthinkable horrors' (Martin 20 June 2002). Who knows what the fruit of
their thoughts will be? But, the next time you watch a movie look

9/11 Numerics

The study of numbers (numerics or numerology) is pivotal to organized
religions, including Christianity, Judaism and Islam. Number patterns
symbols permeate the Christian Bible, for instance, the numbers 3, 7,
40, 666, 1260 and 2520 all have symbolic meaning. It wouldn't be
then if certain numbers held special import to various secret
societies. In
fact the allusion to both permeates Hollywood films like End of Days
Eyes Wide Shut (1999), The Matrix (1999), National Treasure (2004),
11 (2001), Thirteen Days (2000) and The Thirteenth Floor (1999) (Grand
of British Columbia & Yukon 28 January 2005).

So do the numbers 9 and 11 have any significance? According to the
nineteenth century Anglican cleric, EW Bullinger, the number nine (9)
symbolizes divine judgment or finality while the number eleven (11)
symbolizes disorder, disorganization, imperfection and disintegration
(Bullinger 1967 pp. 235, 242, 251). Whether these numbers have other
occultic meanings to clandestine societies is unknown to the author,
knowledge continues to grow in this field (Howard 7 December 2001).

Comparing 9/11 to another subsequent terrorist attack shows how crucial
is that we understand these numbers and their relation to the
behind these global shifting events. On March 11, 2004 191 people lost
lives in the Madrid Train Bombings. Known simply as 3/11 it was widely
described in the news media as 'Europe's 9/11' (Chance 11 March 2005).
so widely known, however, was that this terrorist attack occurred 911
after 9/11 (Shannon 12 March 2004). The recurrent numbers of 9-1-1 are
too familiar, but whose calling cards are they?

The numbers even have historical significance to the people of Israel.
annually fast on Tisha B'Av, the 9th day of the 11th month on the
calendar, in commemoration of national disasters that have befallen
throughout history, including the destruction of the First Temple by
Babylonians in 586-587 BCE; the destruction of the Second Temple by the
Romans in 70 CE; the Roman defeat of the army of Simon Bar Kochba in
135 CE;
the expulsion of Jews from England by King Edward I on 18 July 1290;
expulsion of Jews from Spain by King Ferdinand and Isabella on 2 August
1492; and the declaration of World War I in 1914. It begs the question
other 9/11s are yet to come?

Looking Closer

From one blockbuster movie to another Hollywood constantly casts its
'spells', not unlike the ancient Druid magicians who used wands made
holly wood, projecting its version of the future on a growingly
and unquestioning audience (Collins 13 December 2004). This form of
manipulation, known as 'predictive programming', is a celebrated
in Hollywood with its technical wizardry and special effects that shape
perceptions of reality by creating 'the illusion of an infallibly
vision of how the world is going to look in the future' (Collins 13
2004). From Independence Day (1996) and The Long Kiss Goodnight (1996)
The Peacemaker (1997) and The Siege (1998) Hollywood has been pivotal
this process of 'conditioning the masses to accept future visions that
elite wish to tangibly enact' (Collins 6 February 2005).

So if 9/11 synchronicities were overtly and covertly embedded into
films as part of some hidden agenda then what are they portending about
future events post 9/11? In recent years the most recurrent themes to
from Hollywood have been ominous in their apocalyptic visions of
disease epidemics and pandemics wiping out significant proportions of
world population; the growing and pervasive threat of nuclear, chemical
biological terrorist attacks within the United States and Britain; and
global environmental cataclysms wreaking havoc on a fracturing

To illustrate, in Outbreak (1995) a lethal virus deliberately developed
the US government for germ warfare purposes finds its way to a small
town in California. 'Massive army backup brutally quarantines the whole
and arrests those infected with the virus' while a Presidential
gives the order to bomb the town to eliminate the virus (Davies 2003,
p. 2).
A radical American scientist unleashes a deadly virus in 12 Monkeys
wiping out five billion people and forcing the remaining survivors to
underground. Smallpox 2002: Silent Weapon (2002) explores the
effects of a smallpox attack on the US and UK that eventually kills 60
million people worldwide. In Tidal Wave: No Escape (1997) a demented
terrorist launches nuclear missiles under the sea triggering a wave of
tsunami that devastate the coast of Southern California. European
plan on detonating nuclear weapons on American soil in The Peacemaker
and The Sum of All Fears (2002). Radical Islamic Fundamentalists
successfully release a 'dirty bomb' in Dirty War (2004) that spreads
radiation throughout central London. Asteroids and comets threaten
in Armageddon (1998) and Deep Impact (1998) while in Volcano (1997),
Peak (1997) and Supervolcano (2005) dormant volcanoes threaten to
the urban landscape of America. Tornadoes and tidal waves devastate the
American continent in The Day After Tomorrow (2003). And in Category 6:
of Destruction (2004) a hurricane and tornado merge into a super-storm
wreak havoc over a drought-ridden Chicago causing the collapse of the
national power grid. This leaves hundreds of millions without power and
makes it impossible to warn anyone about the impending disaster.

Whether these disturbing scenarios will pan out as depicted by
and undoubtedly anticipated by a secretive few that orchestrate such
means to further their depraved end, will in time be seen. And you can
sure to see it first as mock entertainment in state-of-the-art picture
sound and then played out to a tee in unparalleled and mind-blowing

If you are aware of other 9/11 synchronicities in movies please e-mail
author at hollywood91101@hotmail.com

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Old 09-02-2005, 08:20 PM
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Good article.

I think it's a little of both. In the end it's ALL synchronistic as everything is connected to everything alse.

For a long time i've struggled with the events of late...in that i really thought it did'nt involve me though I was drawn to the events and the need to explain them to other people.

I just wanted to get out onto my own peice of land and ignore it all as I felt it was drawing away my energies and was sick of getting upset about it.

For 2 years, I woke up or looked at the clock in the AM at EXACTLY 9:11. I have a digital clock. I mean EVERY morning.

It stopped when I accepted that I had a role to play in these unfolding events. Cant remember the last time I looked at the clock and it was 9:11.

True story...take it or leave it.

BTW...if you are interested in the back ground of the concept of synchronicity...look up Carl Jung and his book..."Synchronicity: An Acausal Connecting Principal". Jung was good friends with Wolfgang PAuili the quantum physicist.

The theory is that what you refuse to make conscious in yourself you will act out or draw to you in the outside world...an attempt to balance the psychic energy that is not being allowed to the surface.

Point is...if you refuse to allow God into your life....God comes to you in the outside world to force the change on. In that, I agree with Ahmed that the Devil brings bad things and God brings good things to you. Of course that brings up the duality of the God Head and blah, blah, blah...
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In all of the films mentioned, only a trained eye would recognize it. Most people when they watch a film aren't looking for it. Shit, I know I wasn't until after 2001.
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my time is either 12:34 AM or 5:56 AM
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Synchronicity would say that ALL things are connected at ALL times. People during psychosis see "meaning" everywhere...because their is. The ego must filter it out or it could never be an ego.

At a certain energy point the "meaningful coincidence" breaks through into consciousness in the ordinary person.

So, just for fun...synchronicity says that we were meant, from the beginning of time to meet on the net and exchange "numbers". What was the first thing that sprung to mind...Mathew 12:34 - "Brood of vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.

Hmmmm...that could be meaningful on many levels. The point of the post...Hollywood, secret little messages - SHANNOW is having a lend and knew that number was the Mathew quote and it suited him :-)...could be meaningful to me given my foul mouth of late. Thats the point of synchronicity. It's meaningful to the individual outside of "obvious" time and space causality.

5:56...hmmmm....nothing springs up for me personally while I went straight for the New Testament with those first numbers. Actually! 5.56mm - standard NATO round...bullets. Ring any bells? Lightweight bullet designed to penetrate and "tumble" causing nasty wounds.

The theme for me personally of those numbers is that God is trying to tell me that I am a foul mouthed pig who hurts peoples feelings with his nasty replies. Works for me? Thats the point. Also...i mentioned "aiming" my replies better.

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never once did I have those associations when I mentioned the numbers. BTW, I was not taking the piss on those.

The two numbers that I see on clocks all the time are 12:34 (AM, or PM), and 5:56 (AM).

Dunno why the 12:34, although your reference to Matthew is exactly how I feel about politicians in the media. Maybe it works.

My target rifle is chambered 5.56NATO, but it's also 3 minutes before the alarm goes off at 5:59 (so I get the 6:00 news (to reflect on 12:34 I guess).

BTW, between 5:30, and 6:00 PM, about 60% of the times that I'm on the 'net at that time, a single ant walks up the wall next to me. (That is one that I find freaky)
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I just found this info on 1983 tv movie called "the day after"

I have just watched the old movie The Day After
And some things I wanted to do is see if any hints from the Illuminated Masonic Satanists was left on this movie, and some was there, the number 11 was used a lot, which surprised me at first, being it was 1983, and they were not as bold back then as they are now..

More importantly, the movie was first shown in 1983 (8+3=11) the hospital where survivors were was 38 miles from Kansas City which took a direct Nuclear strike, (3+8=11) also notice 38 was a backwards 83.

Illuminists love the number 11, and all multiples of it, 13 also.

Before the first strike, a girl has a shirt with the number 83 on it, there are to many cases of 11 for this to be my coincidence.

Now this movie was shown in 11-20-83, but the movie declared that on 9-16-1983 the first strike hit, and I noticed they showed a full moon the day after which would have been 9-17-1983.

Now I checked the Calendar and we have 22 years from that date:

ps The movie starts with an EMP attack over Kansas. For them to effectively make use of an EMP weapon, exploding one over Central Kansas makes sense, Kansas is the center of America, also there is a road in Kansas called 666.
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truebeliever wrote:
The theme for me personally of those numbers is that God is trying to tell me that I am a foul mouthed pig who hurts peoples feelings with his nasty replies. Works for me? Thats the point. Also...i mentioned "aiming" my replies better.
Actually, for the most part, you refrain yourself from speaking foul quite well. I should know, cuz I do it more than you, not to mention my clever location on every post. :-P
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I have suffered from arrogance in this lifetime, and it is a bitter pill indeed. There is truth to the old sayings that ignorance is bliss, and that there is a fine line between genius and insanity. I have been afflicted by the latter condition and have been forced by circumstance to deal with hoards of ignorant people my entire life.

I have come to accept the fact that I am doing penance for the sin of arrogance, and I believe that I will never be allowed to hold a position of power and influence until I deveop humility and learn how to treat all people with decency and respect. The good news is that I am making good progress in that direction.

I want to compliment you truebeliever, not only for your genius, but for your example of humility in recent days. When you are actively posting, you are clearly the king of this forum. Your new tone makes me want to be a member of your kingdom. I believe you have a great destiny, and I am cheering for your victory!
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Why, ARJUNA...those are kind words indeed. Lucky i can keep my feet on the ground or i'd be dreaming of hot air balloons. :-D

I had a life changing experience when someone told me I was being extremely arrogant to believe I was above the forgiveness of God as I was feeling awfully guilty about something at the time.

The person I was talking to then piped in that maybe I should be humble enough to "join the community of sinners".

I then began to understand just what the Bible inparticular was all about.

Arrogance is whats killing us. I guess we can all start with ourselves.

Good luck with your burden. Thanx for the very kind words.
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