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Old 06-09-2010, 09:16 AM
FallaciesAbound FallaciesAbound is offline
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I don't misrepresent you.

You misrepresent yourself.

Yeah.

Right.

I fail to see that the problem is with the entire system.

I suggest you familiarize yourself with my posts on this forum and you'll see that I denounce the system of control over our leaders and representatives.

I never focus on one man and I have never focused on Obama, himself.

You did.

I don't want a conspiracy.

There is a conspiracy and I'm exposing it.

You want to blame the people for being complacent.

The fact of the matter is that they aren't complacent.

They just simply do not have any power.
What is power except the concentration of interests onto one or a few individuals? Please explain to the group how you could have an egalitarian political system where "the people" have the power.

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Old 06-11-2010, 10:34 AM
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Power in this world does not rest in the concentration of interests onto one or a few individuals.

One or few individuals is a gross understatement.

You are the person who accused the people of being complacent.

I pointed out that the people aren't complacent.

They simply do not have the power.

I never said there could be an egalitarian political system where the people have the power so why have you requested that I explain it?
OK, so if the people dont have the power, and you cant envision a system where they do have the power, then arent you conceding my point that mixed-oligarchy is the natural human condition?

That being said, I do still believe that complacency is one of the real problems. Revolutions can and do happen, and, for a time at least, do bring beneficial outcomes often. So to say that the people have no power, when a revolt of the people can bring down even the most powerful regime, seems ludicrous.
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Old 06-18-2010, 06:01 PM
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Who said I can't envision a system wherein the people have the power?

You?

Obviously.

Because I never said so.

You continue to suggest that which other members of this forum have not stated.

Your username, fallaciesabound, is quite befitting of yourself.

Certainly, people with power can bring about a revolt and people without power cannot.

However, as I've stated, at present, THE PEOPLE HAVE NO POWER so there will not be a revolt in the near future.

Just as they desire.

People without power equals no revolt.

You can attempt to twist my words as much as you like, FA, but it ain't happenin', pal.

Now or ever.

Oh, and BTW, Eire, please check your posts as far as your father being a rocket scientist.
What the hell are you talking about?

So, please enlighten us as to this egalitarian system of government where the people have the power? How would that possibly work while avoiding the obvious pitfalls of a pure democracy?

As for your ideas about revolt, you are way off. The French nobility certainly had all the power, until a revolt toppled them. The same was true in the American revolution.

And I think you are confusing me with someone else again. Sorry to disappoint a crazy person.
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Old 06-24-2010, 05:58 PM
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It is better to keep your mouth closed and be thought an idiot, than to open it and remove all doubt, ( sometimes ) .

Why do some people continually try to critisize, put down and ridicule others ?

The fact that "we" are on a forum entitled "Club Conspiracy" seems to imply that "we" are of ilk mind even if "we" do not agree on certain issues.

We are all children, the only difference between young children and old children is thier vocabulary/knowledge. Some children refuse to grow up and try to prevent others from advancing and evolving. These immature children should be ignored, if "we" don't play,they will go away.

Don't attack the messenger, attack the message. If you can.

Reductio ad absurdum works for Kent Hovind and Alex Jones .
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Old 06-26-2010, 02:51 AM
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