New Orleans and HAARP

[Draken]

Yeah, TB, you could be right. It could very easily be one of those "Iraqi soldiers ripping Kuwaiti babies from their respirators"-type fairy tale.

[truebeliever]

Or 6 million mudered.

[Draken]

Quite.

But have you EVER seen on TV or in Hollywood movies, EVER heard or read on the news mass media, EVER been taught in school THESE figures:

<a href="http://www.ety.com/HRP/rev/warcrimetrials.htm">HOW ALLIES TREATED GERMAN POWs: GERMAN SLAVES HELD IN ALLIED COUNTRIES</a>

United States 140,000 (US Occupation Zone of which 100,000 were held in France, 30,000 in Italy, 14,000 in Belgium. Great Britain 460,000 German slaves. The Soviet Union 4,000,000 - 5,000,000 estimated. France had 680,000 German slaves by August 1946. Yugoslavia 80,000, Belgium 48,000, Czechoslovakia 45,000, Luxembourg 4,000, Holland 1,300. Source: International Red Cross.

...

An outraged International Red Cross organization opined: "The United States, Britain and France, nearly a year after peace are violating International Red Cross agreements they solemnly signed in 1929. Although thousands of former German soldiers are being used in the hazardous work of clearing minefields, sweeping sea mines and razing shattered buildings, the Geneva Convention expressly forbids employing prisoners 'in any dangerous labour or in the transport of any material used in warfare.'

Anyone doubting these facts can check them - and find masses of much more horrific stories - in John Sack's book <a href="http://www.texemarrs.com/cgi-bin/miva?Merchant/merchant.mv+Screen=PROD&Store_Code=catalog&Product _Code=Book+0501">"An Eye For An Eye"</a>, which I can recommend everyone to read.

[nomad]

Insight here's a link with my point

http://www.rotten.com/library/conspiracy/haarp/

and here's another question for you ...

Does your radio work well ?

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HAARP
It's called the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Project. What could be more innocuous than researching the Northern Lights, right?
Depends on who you ask.

HAARP is a research program based in Alaska to "study the ionosphere" and aurora effects in the atmosphere. It's run jointly by the Air Force and the Navy. If you're wondering why the Air Force and the Navy care about aurorae, you're not the only one.

There is, of course, a perfectly reasonable explanation. According to HAARP (which unlike many insidious government conspiracies, has its own Web site), "Because the DoD (Depoartment of Defense) operates numerous communication and navigation systems whose signals either depend on reflection from the ionosphere or must pass through the ionosphere to satellites, there is obvious DoD interest in understanding the ionosphere's effect on these systems to improve their reliability and performance."

Now that we've got the reasonableness out of the way, lets look at why HAARP is up there with Area 51 in terms of conspiratorial splendor.

First off, there's the basic nature of the project. It's scores of radio antenna pumping massive high-frequency directional broadcasts into the air for the purpose of heating the ionosphere. Yes, that's right — it's blasting electromagnetic radiation into the sky to "microwave" the outer layer atmosphere. Starting to sound less innocuous?

Some people, purporting to be government employees with privileged information, have claimed that HAARP is actually some sort of massive destructor beam for a nefarious purpose.

HAARP claims that the supposed 3,600 kilowatts of energy originating from the project are completely harmless (detractors claim it's more like a gigawatt) and far less than the normal variation in ionospheric radiation. Which raises the question of why they don't just study those normal variations.

The claims about HAARP made by these ubiquitous people-in-the-know boil down to the following bullet points:


HAARP is a giant death ray, based on a design contained in the notes of inventor Nikola Tesla, seized by the FBI after his death. This is a very popular theory, probably because so much of it is actually true. Tesla claimed to have developed a death ray with a very similar configuration to HAARP's actual configuration, and the seizure of his scientific papers is a matter of public record.
HAARP is a weather-control machine. There's a certain logic to this one as well. If a butterfly's wings beating in Tibet can cause el Nino, then a gigawatt of electromagnetic radiation ought to be good for something.
HAARP is an earthquake machine. Also based on a bunch of weird stuff Tesla discovered. Somewhat offset by the fact the HAARP array is clearly pointed at the sky.
HAARP is a doomsday machine ripping a hole in the earth's atmosphere. Colorful, but scienfitically questionable. How do you rip a hole in air?
HAARP has something to do with UFOs. Either signalling them, blasting them from the skies, or feeding babies to them.
HAARP is a giant Mind Control broadcasting machine. Appealing, but if it works, why are people still such assholes?


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[Draken]

HAARP is a giant Mind Control broadcasting machine. Appealing, but if it works, why are people still such assholes?

Didn't you just answer that question, nomad? ;-)

[nomad]

LOL ... good one Draken :-D

[Insight]

Ah, yes, rotten.com. The site featuring a picture of a man eating a baby. It's the first place I go when I need to get the low-down on any supposed conspiracy.

[sablefish]

I read somewhere that a barge rammed into the levee, and that is when it started leaking.. This was after the storm was downgraded to three and missed New Orleans.. It could have been the plan all along.. just waiting for the right storm, after neglecting the repair schedules and ramming the levee with a barge.. They didn't need HAARP.. all they needed was patience... and a commitment to the cause of creative destruction.

[nomad]

sablefish wrote:
I read somewhere that a barge rammed into the levee, and that is when it started leaking.. This was after the storm was downgraded to three and missed New Orleans.. It could have been the plan all along.. just waiting for the right storm, after neglecting the repair schedules and ramming the levee with a barge.. They didn't need HAARP.. all they needed was patience... and a commitment to the cause of creative destruction.

True however the timing of Katrina happening

right after Bush was running at a record low

popularity is too perfect for me.

[psholtz]

Much of the rioting and chaos in New Orleans reminds me of an alleged CIA mind control project called "Crimson Mist"..

Google up ol' Joe Vialls report on the subject, and you'll see what I mean.. :-(