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Old 09-19-2005, 12:32 PM
Nexuseuss Nexuseuss is offline
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wow, my thread has become quite the clusterfuck hasn't it :-P :-P
Notice how the thread started on one subject and now is hijacked on another subject...interesting...troll alert!

:-o
Funny how this thread began with discussion, and respectful at that, then it degenerated into a free for all where a bunch of christians took it upon themselves to gang up on one lone person, and paint them as some kind of new age devil merely because I don't abide by religious denominations or fools.

I tried to let this go, and Freeman offered a first hand. It's been a few opportunists after that thought it fair sport to poke and prod in the name of christian values.

You wanted to know why I don't value christian values?

Proof is here in this thread.

Good luck with the modern witch hunt, boys and girls. I won't be posting in this thread any further.

Lap at my ankles in another thread of designed humping.

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Old 09-19-2005, 12:56 PM
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Hey, freeman, thanks. Guess all those years I thought I wasted in the new age occult movement weren't all for nothing.
I agree Nex, this subject needs to end, but just want to address a few things in your post.
If you aren't a new ager, my apologies, as I have a tendency to see a new ager behind every tree (or post).
Our courts and schools weren't infiltrated by religion; they started out in the beginning with basic religious ideals (re: U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights). Seeming fanatics on both the Left and Right have wreaked havoc on these systems, who are controlled ultimately by the Illuminati.
You're right that some of our customs have come from Pagan sources; those scary Xmas trees and misletoe have gotta go!
But there's a big difference between Hitler's devotion to the occult, and that of being a vegetarian and partaking of Bavarian sausage and squab (what the heck is squab, anyway?).
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Old 09-19-2005, 02:39 PM
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I don't have any anger.
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what a joke ! The only thing the guy do is to insult others. He is full of anger. Just see his temper tantrums.

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No one has challenged my beliefs here, because I haven't named or even hinted at the entirety of what they actual are. That's my perogative.
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I call this being disonest. You are in a forum, it is easy to attack others while you don't say in what you believe. Grow up.

Hmmm...two alternatives here: either Nex is a silly teenager full of hormones or he is a Wicca or some shit like that in disguise, entering the forum just to mess up things and as someone said, to derail the conversation. The guy didn't add ANYTHING to the discussion, never explains what he is all about, only causes disruption.

Either way, I am out of his game.
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Old 03-13-2010, 08:25 PM
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There is no free will regarding morality. Man is born depraved, according to the Bible, my own mirror and my life experience. No choice here.

Christianity teaches that people are unable to be good by their own efforts. I see selfshiness and egocentrism in my 2 year old niece !

What happens is that socialization puts a restrainer on people's behavior. Fear to go to jail, to be ostracized. This is not the same as godliness that comes from the heart.

Of course, even after receiving Christ the Christian still sins (sometimes a lot). But he has a chance to sin less, as long as he asks for God to help him live the life God wants us to live. Freedom from sin only after you die.
Most likely seen, as you put it, from in the eyes of - outside of ones' self.

Unlikely there from based on ourselves, solely.
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Old 03-13-2010, 08:36 PM
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Nex,

You are so pretentious, man. I am a defeatist because I admit that I sin ? I can tell you, you probably sin 10 times more than I do, but you parade yourself as someone who will achieve sinless perfection. Look yourself in the mirror, I say. You probably screwed someone today or had an evil thought in the last 5 minutes. Are you never jealous, envious, angry ?

I can tell you that only Jesus gave me strength to sin less. He puts a big red sign before my eyes when I am about to sin. I was pretty fucked up before that.

The problem is that you, as all new agers, believe in the relativism of morality. It takes a lot of blind faith and romaticism to do it. Let someone take your wallet or kick you in the butt and you will see that morality is very absolute and easy to define.

God is the parameter of morality. Without Him, we would be only machines, free to do whatever was best for us. I used to be an existencialist until I saw the absurd that it is to have morals without God. Without God, killing another person means absolutely the same as being good. Who could judge what was best ? Why respect life if you die and there is nothing after it ? Nonsense.
I would say the answers to your questions, are in our selves.
It is something to get into - ones' self.
Where one can find - real answers.
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Old 03-13-2010, 08:41 PM
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Nex,

It is always the same new age stuff..if it works for you, fine. Meaning there is no absolute truth.

If truth is particular, why do you join a forum like this, just to start ? Just live up with your own personal truth. You can't point people to anything of more value than what they already have. Nobody can teach you anything better than what you have now. If you don't want to have people sticking their necks on your belief system, then what the heck are doing in this forum discussing religion ?

Of course truth is absolute and one of us is wrong.

And you make a big confusion between Christianity, understood as the teachings of Jesus, and organized Church. Any bastard can say he is a Christian and start killing people. But he is not. I agree with you that the Church has done horrible things. But Church is not God. Forget the Church and meditate on what Jesus said instead. Then make up your mind, reject Him if you want, but don't reject Him because of false Christians or because you don't like me or people like me. Fuck me and read the book of John !

You call my reasoning hocus pocus...I think it has a very good logic behind it. Stop and think about it.
Part of the "problem".

We live our own lives.
We do not - submit ourselves - to outside of us.

Even IF, we don't know it, or can't see it.
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Old 03-13-2010, 09:41 PM
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Who will be the first to confront the menace of America?

Limiting - such confrontation - to the nations of the world:
America does not seem to be confrontable, in such "warring" way.

There's a number of beliefs around, that are not, outright excludable.
Which would have to be voiced, on this matter.

What's the chances, America,
will not suffer a downfall?
I think, chances are pretty-good, that America will stand.
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Old 03-13-2010, 10:25 PM
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Who will be the first to confront the menace of America?

Limiting - such confrontation - to the nations of the world:
America does not seem to be confrontable, in such "warring" way.

There's a number of beliefs around, that are not, outright excludable.
Which would have to be voiced, on this matter.

What's the chances, America,
will not suffer a downfall?
I think, chances are pretty-good, that America will stand.
America has been in a downfall for quite some time now.

She may stand, but she will never be that which she should be, that which she could be or that which she once was.

She is owned and operated by corrupt elements within our government, military and the IMF whose allegiance does not lie with her but with their own global interests.

America has been a useful tool for them to this end.

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Old 03-15-2010, 10:47 AM
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Old 03-17-2010, 08:26 PM
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seems like paranoia seting in
thats just what they..terrorist want.
but its not paranoia.. ita anger seting in.. anger because every day it cost lives so we at home can live without a threat. every day it cost us our money our homes our jobs to pay the bill to live in safty at the cost of lives every day. and there is no cure fot it bbut to kill every terrorist that walks on this earth. at the cost of more lives. so what is going to happen is the same thing as the adom bomb in ww2. for the same reasons i just typed here. to stop lost of lives on the side of the west at the cost of lives in the east. we will end up nukeing them. to stop the war on terror and save lives on the west and fix the econimy. at the cost of lives in the east. if not it will cost lives in the west and the east.. and america will fall into another depression. so the fact is there is no cure for this. what is happening now is we the west is waiting for the east to make the first move. so the launching of nukes from the west can be justafied. any way you look at it.. it will continue as it is now or a ww3. and end of the world.. got any ideas?
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