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Old 09-21-2005, 03:20 AM
Nexuseuss Nexuseuss is offline
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Was he speaking more about the definition of children according to the law (under 18), and highlighting evidence that sexual gratification can happen to those not of physical maturity?

There's a big difference between a 13 year old boy or girl who is sexually mature having sex with someone older than them, and an entirely different kettle of fish when you leave that scenario.

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Old 09-21-2005, 03:29 AM
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NEX...just for once...switch off your "analysis - paralysis" mode and note the obvious.

The "expert" is stating that paedophilia is o.k.

You have to understand the background of the move to make fucking little kids o.k. At the moment you just wont believe it. It is too far fetched to believe that freaks would openly talk about this stuff.

This site is unique in many ways because it address's stuff that on the surface seems ridiculous. I too was a simple left leaning lemming holding court at the party with my politically correct Chomskian analysis of how the world workes.

There are EVIL people out their who think sacrificing young children to the devil is O.K. Hard to believe?

There are wolves in the forest.

Kinsey observed directly the sexual response including orgasm in infants. Now just how do you suppose Mr Kinsey assessed the orgasm of infants?

Kapeche?

That man has been glossed over by Hollywood...now why is that?

How deep does the rabbit hole go? You probably dont want to know...but then again maybe you do. Suspend your disbelief.
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Old 09-21-2005, 04:01 AM
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NEX...just for once...switch off your "analysis - paralysis" mode and note the obvious.

The "expert" is stating that paedophilia is o.k.
There were no quotes of paedophilia, but rather adolescents having some sort of sexual relationship. It was paraphrased by others quoting him as pro paedophilia.

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You have to understand the background of the move to make fucking little kids o.k. At the moment you just wont believe it. It is too far fetched to believe that freaks would openly talk about this stuff.
I'm not shocked about it being discussed. I just don't see this leap of logic applicable to the discussion. He mentioned adolescent boys. Adolescent boys are for the most part, sexually capable or close to and have been sleeping with boys and girls their same age since the beginning of time. Why does current society not call them adults until they've struck some magic age of 18, yet the laws of reproduction have clearly shown that they're capable of being adults around the time of sexual maturity?

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This site is unique in many ways because it address's stuff that on the surface seems ridiculous. I too was a simple left leaning lemming holding court at the party with my politically correct Chomskian analysis of how the world workes.
I'm not leftist, nor rightist and I don't see how this thread thus far has addressed the subject matter appropriately.

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There are EVIL people out their who think sacrificing young children to the devil is O.K. Hard to believe?
That's not the topic of this discussion.

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There are wolves in the forest.
That's where wolves generally live. But again, it's not the topic of conversation here.

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Kinsey observed directly the sexual response including orgasm in infants. Now just how do you suppose Mr Kinsey assessed the orgasm of infants?
It may be by less than idealistic methods that those facts were acquired, but yet again, that's not the subject highlighted by the author only briefly quoted, and paraphrased with red herrings. If he did in fact state something along the lines of "it's okay to have sex with non sexually mature youths and younger" then that would be a point of conversation. That's why I asked for more information.

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Kapeche?

That man has been glossed over by Hollywood...now why is that?

How deep does the rabbit hole go? You probably dont want to know...but then again maybe you do. Suspend your disbelief.
The issue isn't Kinsey as such.

If nature sees fit to permit the body of a human adolescent to become sexually mature, then they are sexually mature. Society has struggled with this concept off and on for centuries. Sometimes it's the norm for 13-14 year olds to get married, or 16 year old women to marry men 20 years their senior. Now it's slowly becoming permissable for men to sleep with women 20 or more years their senior. Point is, the benchmarks change according to society and what it believes necessary, or how it feels depending on the cycle of history.

I suspect that there are other unsaid issues underpinned by some of the responses thus far.

Care to take a guess as to what they are, TB?
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Old 09-21-2005, 05:43 AM
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Apolagies. I dont have the energy to go over a million and one facts of the history of paedophilia and the movements attempting to blur the edges of obvious decency with over intellectualised arguments.

I will sum up the quote below in as short a time as possible.

"Sticking your hard, stiff, grown up cock up a little boys arse and fucking him anally is o.k as they did it in the old days. Making him suck your cock and blowing a load of sticky cum in his mouth will be good for his development. I may even slap his cute little arse and give him a lolly."

I hope that makes the situation and my position on the matter clear.

When I was a lad my Uncles just taught me how to weld and drive tractors. If they had only fucked me in the arse and made me suck their cocks perhaps I would have developed better?

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Pederasty, or sexual relations between men and adolescent boys, is condemned in our society as an unqualified evil that maims and destroys. In ancient Greece, samurai Japan, and numerous other cultures, pederasty was seen as the noblest of human relations, conducive if not essential to nurturing the adolescent's successful intellectual and physical maturation.

Current psychological and psychiatric theorizing have pronounced and promoted the former view, while ignoring the vast array of cross-cultural data related to the latter view. Mental health opinion has also ignored a wealth of cross-species data with important parallels. Instead, this opinion is based on feminist models of rape and incest, which are backed up by clinical research on child sexual abuse.

The current article examines empirical rather than clinical data on pederasty, and supplements this with cross-cultural and cross-species perspectives. The empirical data show that pederasty is not only not predestined to injure, but can benefit the adolescent when practiced according to the ancient Greek form. Cross-cultural and cross-species data show the extensiveness of pederasty in the natural world, as well as its functional rather than pathological nature in these societies and species.

An evolutionary model that synthesizes the empirical, cross-cultural, and cross-species data is proposed as an alternative to the highly inadequate feminist and psychiatric models. The animal data suggest that the seeds for pederasty were planted at the dawn of humanity. The human data suggest that pederasty came to serve a mentoring function.
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Old 09-21-2005, 06:32 AM
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So in other words. Believe you because that's how you feel, and you're not prepared to show how comments about sexually mature humans partaking of consensual sex somehow becomes the basis for child molestation or whatnot.

Sure thing.
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Old 09-21-2005, 06:44 AM
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I cannot respond to your posts.

I think you mean well but you are asking me to teach grade 2 maths.

I am not interested.

If you cant get it now...then you are simply not going to get it.

Sincerely, all the best.
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Old 09-21-2005, 06:50 AM
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Why don't you take that stab in the dark you've noteably been refraining from.

What is the real issue behind the disgust of two sexually mature people having consensual sex?
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Old 09-21-2005, 07:16 AM
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The issue is not about consensual sex. It is about pushing forward an agenda that allows adult perverts to rape innocent chidren, destroying their lives. Many many perverts would love that to happen. They even have an association to promote this.

Of course when they want something outrageous to be accepted, they never start upfront with the whole idea. They don't say: let's rape young boys ! They prefer to start a debate, maybe in the academy, and let it develop slowly. It is an old Communist, Gramscian trick. It is also called the Six-Step Attitude Change Plan. (check www.cuttingedge.org for a more detailed explanation).

If we pay attention, this modus operandi is repeated all the time with all the issues the occultists want to be accepted.
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Old 09-21-2005, 07:16 AM
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Sorry, Nex, but you're in the wrong here.

The official view of several studies states specifically that the issue is "adult-child" sex. No sex is mentioned specifically. The issue they are trying to divert attention to now is when is a child a child? Where does the line between child and adult go?

According to your logic WHEN exactly is a child "sexually mature"?

If a little boy gets a hard on when he's five is he then "sexually mature", according to you?

If yes, does that mean that you assume he is mentally, intellectually capable to make a balanced, MATURE judgement on the issue?

While we're at it, define "sexually mature" for me, please.

Generally, you need to see the bigger picture here. The rhetorical trick that's being used is "compromize" - diverting the discussion of THE REAL TARGET of the agenda, which is robbing our children of their childhood and SOULS.

Let me illustrate:

Person comes to my house and says: I want your house.

I say: no you can't have my house.

He says: Ok. How about I stay on your lawn in front of you house?

I say: OK.

Compromize.

The next day he says: I want your house!

I say: no you can't have my house, but you can have the steps to my porch.

Compromize.

You get the picture. If we compromize and let thoroughly dark forces play this game with our children, sooner or later they'll take our children from us WITH OUR CONSENT, since we COMPROMIZED. These people WILL NOT STOP UNTIL THEY'VE THROWN YOU OUT OF YOUR OWN HOUSE.

Nex, please, read up on the facts in this issue otherwise you'll be parroting the NWO agenda and thus become a "useful idiot".

Saturnino, you're SPOT ON!
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Old 09-21-2005, 07:20 AM
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I will answer your question with a question...

Do you think it's o.k for older men...lets say in their 30's, to take under their wing 13 to 16 year old school girls to fuck them and make them suck their cocks to"...conducive if not essential to nurturing the adolescent's successful intellectual and physical maturation."

That is how fucking stupid you are.

That is why you must allude that I am homophobic.

Because you are one of the most stupid people i have EVER seen post here.

Perhaps I will use your logic and allude that you are a filthy homo who loves to fuck little boys in the arse...would that be correct?

Young boys and girls need love and nurturing in the form of encouragement and the feeling that they are valued and worthwhile.

They do not need sexual predators trying to FUCK their various orifices.

I have to put that word nice and large for you.

Like I said...you dont get it. You never will.

There are ultimate values idiot. The ones I adhere to as best i can are Christian. These values tell me I am important and deserve to be here. I am not a peice of meat for the sexual gratifacation of older humans.

I pity your children if you have them.

The New World Order has done it's work with the likes of you. "Tolerent" and bearing the unmistakeable odour of someone with an "open mind".

Again...you have crossed a line. You might as well have defended murder. That is why i cant exchange views with you. You are TOTALLY divorced from reality. One would hope you do not have to pick up the peices of traumatised youth.
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